I've nothing to contribute car-wise

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 12/06/2018 at 22:20 • Filed to: Boredom

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But I can tell you that Galactica is the best designed starship EVER.

CB > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:25

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Pillar of Autumn or bust.

facw > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:27

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It’s a good design, though there are some others I would put ahead of it. The remake one is a bit nicer than the original I think.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:27

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Incorrect. Serenity is the best starship in the universe

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 12/06/2018 at 22:31

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It’s top 10 material, but nowhere near #1

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > facw 12/06/2018 at 22:32

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What would you put ahead of it so I may disagree? Remake is 120% better than the original.

lone_liberal > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:33

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It’s fine for an aircraft carrier but it’s a bit claustrophobic. I like windows in my starships.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:37

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Pegasus.

ttyymmnn > facw 12/06/2018 at 22:39

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I disagree. I like the original better. But then again, I am a historian, and I have a soft spot for the original since I watched the hell out of that show when it was on TV.

wafflesnfalafel > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:42

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K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 12/06/2018 at 22:46

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Begone, Pegasus sympathizer

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:46

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Oh honey...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > wafflesnfalafel 12/06/2018 at 22:46

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What’re trying to say

zipfuel > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:48

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“jeez kid are you still not finished with that prop model ? They’ve moved up the shooting schedule and need it tomorrow morning!.... Nah forget putting anymore skin on it, just spray gray over the ribs you jigsaw cut and we’ll call it an exoskeleton or something......”

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/06/2018 at 22:49

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Middle schooler’s choice I see. (Ask me how I know)

Excelsior is better. 

TheRevanchist > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:49

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You see, most space ships have a landing problem that is inherent in the design. Even if ships could land, the weight balance is an issue. Hence, I give you the ship that will land perfectly.

The only minor design flaw is that it won’t fit in a round hole.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > zipfuel 12/06/2018 at 22:51

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facw > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:51

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I have a soft spot for the Enterprise D, of course, so that would qualify. I’m pretty sure there were others, but I’m not feeling like doing a full ranking now, too many choices. I was looking at this for inspiration:

full-size

But frankly it’s extremely limited in what it covers. Still some ships on it might qualify (beside the enterprise), things like the Executor, the Defiant, Moya, and probably a few others that I’m missing on it. It would also help to know exactly what we consider a star ship, does the Normandy count? How about the Millennium Falcon? An X-Wing? What about space ships incapable of interstellar flight? Or even ones incapable of interplanetary flight?

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:53

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The Excelsior was a workhorse that somehow managed to stay relevant throughout two centuries but stood against the Borg and Dominion it was no match. The Sovereign was a menace, a sexy ship that was meant to send shivers down the spine of any Federation enemy.

Far better than a Galaxy and far better than whatever that half-finished thing you originally posted is ;)

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:54

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Maxima Speed > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:54

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Gonna have to disagree with you there. The Cobra Mk III f ro m elite dangerous is designed on scientific principles and is an excellent design in the utilitarian  sense.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:54

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I’m pretty sure that’s a 3018 Chevy 3500HD

CTSenVy > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:54

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Wrong.

facw > ttyymmnn 12/06/2018 at 22:57

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It’s still a good deign, but it just doesn’t look as good to me (my main complaint is that I’m bothered by the different arms connecting down to the subhulls)

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 22:58

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I forgot what happened the pegasus, I think it flew into a base star.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > lone_liberal 12/06/2018 at 22:59

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All it takes is one hammer or bit of asteroid....

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > TheRevanchist 12/06/2018 at 23:00

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Damn thing won’t fit in any polygon other than itself: USELESS

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/06/2018 at 23:01

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I’m pretty sure you’re more insane than I am.

facw > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:02

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I like the Excelsior as well, a very graceful design.

HammerheadFistpunch > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/06/2018 at 23:02

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d>e

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 12/06/2018 at 23:02

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That it did, and it went out in the most b!tch way possible. It doesn’t deserve a top 10 spot at all.

Gerry197 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:02

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Agreed, makes sense in ship design, like the fact they hide the CIC/Command room deep within the ship.  Unlike other shows that have a big bridge open way on top for made for an easy attack.   

HammerheadFistpunch > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 12/06/2018 at 23:04

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what’s a universe? oh you must mean the verse

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Gerry197 12/06/2018 at 23:06

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FINALLY, a individual of culture.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:07

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Normand y is better because it doesn’t have leaky water tanks.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 12/06/2018 at 23:07

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At least mine isn’t a god damned pen with wings.

Chariotoflove > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:09

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wafflesnfalafel > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:09

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I might be a traditionalist :)

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:10

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You’re right. Yours is a suppository.

LastFirstMI is my name > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:11

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Can we talk about the tactical error of risking exactly half of your remaining Battlestars with that move?!? WHat the Frack Apollo

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > LastFirstMI is my name 12/06/2018 at 23:13

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MY POINT EXACTLY. Apollo fucked up.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > ttyymmnn 12/06/2018 at 23:14

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The original design is fine! I find the remake to be more “realistic”.

lone_liberal > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:14

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That ship survived the rings of Saturn! No mere hammer would scratch it.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:14

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“But.. where are the lights?”
It’s a spaceship. In space.

“There aren’t enough windows!”
It’s. A. Spaceship. In. Space. And also a WARSHIP. Transparent, easily broken panels are NOT A GOOD IDEA.
“But how will they see where they’re going?”
OH. MY. GOD. Just... just... go away. Leave me to my work.

“Oh that’s neat! But you should put the bridge up at the nose!”
One, it’s the bow not the nose . It’s a ship. Not a plane. Two, IT’S A BLOODY WARSHIP. YOU PUT THE BRIDGE BEHIND AS MUCH ARMOR AS YOU CAN.
“Oh. I guess that makes sense. But it needs wings.”
... this ship masses several million tons IT DOES NOT BLOODY MANEUVER IN ATMOSPHERE, IT JUST FALLS!!
“Oh. Okay.”

“What is this flat nose crap? And it’s all boxy and ugly. We want it sexier !”
IT’S A FUCKING SPACESHIP IN SPACE WHERE THERE IS NO ATMOSPHERE AND NO DRAG AND IT IS A WARSHIP THAT WANTS TO MOUNT ALL THE GUN AND ARMOR IT CAN!! DO YOU WANT A GODDAMN MEDIUM SCI-FI WARSHIP OR FUCKING STAR TREK, EMO EDITION?!

Sincerely, someone who also writes semi-hard sci-fi and is going to punch someone in the face if he has to explain one more time why a ship that mounts high caliber railguns needs to be measured in kilometers , can’t shoot significantly off-axis, and doesn’t have any fucking windows! (Okay, fine, I will admit it has nine.. in the bloody observation lounge.)

p.s. STOP ASKING ABOUT THE RIBS. There’s a damn story reason ! BSG-75 was halfway through being disarmed and converted to a museum when the Cylon attack happened. Go look at BSG Pegasus.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 12/06/2018 at 23:16

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In what universe?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > CTSenVy 12/06/2018 at 23:16

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Can’t agree or disagree.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 12/06/2018 at 23:16

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You. OUT.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > wafflesnfalafel 12/06/2018 at 23:16

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Oh, fair.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Chariotoflove 12/06/2018 at 23:17

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On my top 10 list.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Gerry197 12/06/2018 at 23:18

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THANK YOU. I thought I was gonna have to start smacking people or something. Actually, I still do, but less people.

“Hey, we should put the bridge right here at the very front of the ship and give it a giant glass window.”

WHAT, DO THEY NOT HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS AND RADAR TO GO WITH YOUR ANTI-MATTER REACTORS AND TELEPORTERS?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 12/06/2018 at 23:19

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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > HammerheadFistpunch 12/06/2018 at 23:20

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You’re gorram right.

(Actually, worst starship design. You keep that in the verse.)

chaozbandit > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:24

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Na

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:47

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I humbly submit...

Prometheus Class:

Interceptor Class:

and Proteus Class starships: (shown along side Sovereign-class for comparison)

All that being said...

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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/06/2018 at 23:56

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Actual things I have had to explain/educate/correct about my universe that I should not have had to, but had to, because “STEM” is none of the things it claims to be and people are stupid and trying to get me to hurt them very badly and not just physically :

That hot fusion is what we are trying to achieve today and not the same as cold fusion

Nuclear fusion does not make nuclear waste or highly radioactive anything unless you are actively trying to do so

Using a nuclear weapon in space is NOT GOING TO CONTAMINATE ANYTHING

“Do you have any idea how much power it actually takes to launch something that masses 5,000kg at a speed of 35,000km/s?!”

Attempting to fly something that masses a billion long tons, is 16 kilometers long, 4 kilometers wide, and nearly 2 kilometers tall even close to the L1 or L2 Lagrangian point is going to fucking break it like a twig.

Attempting to fly something that masses four billion long tons PERIOD is NOT A GOOD IDEA

NO, CARBON FIBER DOES NOT SOLVE EVERYTHING

IT DOES NOT NEED WINDOWS

Yes, painting something that flies in space is an extravagance, because between constant debris impacts making more debris and having to hold up to instantly-melts-your-eyeballs level of UV is stupid and expensive!

“ ... we have automatic license plate readers and accurate OCR and automatic bar code scanning to identify a ship is ‘unbelievable’?!”

SOLAR SAILS DO NOT WORK LIKE THAT

There is now an entire fucking chapter wasted on ELI5-ing the Paperclip Conjecture and I hate everyone but especially everyone involved in the snake oil bullshit that is current ML/AI. You people have made my life hell. Die in a fire.

IF IT NEEDS TO TRAVEL 4 MILLION KILOMETERS AT A SPEED OF 40,000 KILOMETERS PER HOUR, IT DOES NOT ARRIVE IN 2 MINUTES

Yes, quantum teleportation is actual, real, currently available science

THAT’S NOT HOW QUANTUM COMPUTING WORKS

THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS EITHER

“YES I FUCKING KNOW HOW QUANTUM COMPUTING WORKS STOP FUCKING REGURGITATING SLIDE DECKS FROM FRAUDS!”

“No it is NOT advocating EITHER WAY ! THEY HAVE A POPULATION SHORTAGE. THEY NEED TO MAKE BABIES. IT IS BASIC NECESSITY AND LOGIC.”

“ THAT’S NOT HOW CLONING WORKS!!”

“We have that technology TODAY !”

Technology does not solve for stupidity!

Intelligence does not necessarily impart common sense!

“ If you do not stop equating unlimited electricity with post-scarcity I am going to literally bite your head off.”

Why did I think writing and/or having test-readers was a good idea again?

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 00:13

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But sadly not the best named...

#Culture

Future Heap Owner > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 00:15

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Future Heap Owner > Future Heap Owner 12/07/2018 at 00:18

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Though maybe

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 00:28

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Best designed? Yea I’ll give that to you, but my favorite will probably always be the Firefly

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 12/07/2018 at 00:33

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PROVE IT

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Future Heap Owner 12/07/2018 at 00:33

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You best be joking on that one.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 12/07/2018 at 00:33

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As I said, top 10 material, but not #1.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 00:43

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Two personal favorites:

Refreshingly Unconcerned With The Vulgar Exigencies Of Veracity

Falling Outside The Normal Moral Constraints

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 01:01

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The Nostromo is still one of my favorites.

Future Heap Owner > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 01:08

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Hell naw. Always had a soft spot  for the aqua-streamed curves of the Mon Calamari ships.

If that’s a problem with you, we might have to have some words

UserNotFound > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 01:31

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False. Bistromath.

Gerry197 > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 12/07/2018 at 01:48

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Battlestar re-imagined and the Expanse is Sci Fi made right.  The Expanse takes the realism to another level however.   

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Gerry197 12/07/2018 at 02:28

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Oh yeah... what I write is pretty damn close to the Expanse. Think: “I was told there would not be math.” And then being hit in the face with a brick of equations. Which turns into an avalanche of them.

I’ve honestly spent as much time on research as I have on writing and I still  don’t know exactly how much energy I need to operate these weapons of mass extinction.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 12/07/2018 at 08:58

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You'll like the ships of The Expanse.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/07/2018 at 09:01

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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 12/07/2018 at 12:28

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I do indeed like their ships. I keep up on these things. ;)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 12/07/2018 at 12:39

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Top 5 material. However, counterpoint:

The Reach redesign is the best version.

user314 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 12/10/2018 at 12:45

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