"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
12/03/2018 at 12:36 • Filed to: Corolla
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"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
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In this color. Don’t care what they say, I like ho w these look. Running lights at night looked awesome, too. I gotta drive one someday . But how would it compare to the Paseo Wagon™?
No, I don’t have the money or the budget. But I am badly rooting for Toyota to succeed. I am curious to see if it can beat out an Altezza designed around the turn of the century in at least some aspects.
Alleged positives:
- it has 50 less HP, but is over 400 lbs lighter
- it gets 10-18 miles per gallon MORE. A modern 4-banger vs a thirsty 2JZ? youdontsay.png
- 17 years newer... Not necessarily a plus, but there certainly are perks. It’ll have all the tech, but will it have the interior build quality of yester-year?
Obvious drawbacks:
- would cost over three times as much... I very much doubt it’s three times the car.
- FWD (don’t @ me. I’ve owned *SEVEN* FWD cars. The RWD on the Sportcross just happens to be enjoyable )
- Cargo capacity apparently is terrible! Even with the seats down. I have so see this in person because it says ~18 cu ft with the seats up vs 23.3 with the seats down?! So either the seats don’t fold totally flat or the numbers are totally wrong.
- the Sportcross still will probably be worth more in five years... Not the Corolla’s fault. There are just so few Sportlies left in the US.
Somehow this turned into a “gee I really like my car” post, didn’t it
Milky
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 12:45 |
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How about keep the Spertkross and get work to get you one when the Taco gets old. It should be able to fit chandeliers.
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 12:47 |
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B.. bUt iT;S A cOroLla.
mAtSudAh 3 hAtCh Bro. aWD+sKyaCTiVe+mAnueLLe 4lYf!
InFierority Complex
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 12:50 |
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Adequate Vibe replacement down the line?
Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 13:09 |
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I’ m sorry, I really wanted to like this car but that changed the day i saw it IRL.
I was at the dealer looking, saw it and thought “Civic vs. Corolla = Civic Hatchback vs. Corolla Hatchback” well i was wrong. This thing can’ t compete with the Fit let alone the Civic while being as expensive or surpassing the Civic’s price tag .
functionoverfashion
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 13:32 |
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Car and Driver listed caro space as 23 (seats up) / 42 (seats down). link
Interesting, because my wife’s 2015 Mini 4-door says 13.1/40.7 - so nearly as much room with the seats down, despite being at least 12" shorter?
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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> functionoverfashion
12/03/2018 at 13:35 |
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Don’t know why there’s a half-dozen links that say 23.3 with the seats down...
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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> Milky
12/03/2018 at 13:35 |
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Hey
That’s actually a good idea
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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> InFierority Complex
12/03/2018 at 13:36 |
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Wife wants a crossover.
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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No
12/03/2018 at 13:45 |
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But a loaded XSE is maybe ~24k, doesn’t a loaded Civic push 30k?
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functionoverfashion
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 13:58 |
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That is strange. The seats down measurement makes no sense though.
Nibby
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 14:01 |
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get a new wife
Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 15:14 |
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Something must be terribly wrong with the seats-down cargo measurement.
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Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 16:25 |
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yeah but a Fit loaded fit is like 20
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> Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No
12/03/2018 at 16:34 |
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But you said it was more expensive than the Civic, which is isn't...
nermal
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 17:23 |
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It’s neat but the only people that will buy one are those that don’t know that the GTI exists.
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Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 17:25 |
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I think it certainly depends on what you are expecting from the car.
To me the the fancy that the XSE comes with are not worth the price compared to a Civic Sport which is that i was comparing to.
Shift24
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 17:32 |
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Ill @ you. My most fun car right now is a FWD. Its limit is just enough to get in and out of trouble. Where as RWD the limit might be more fun but the consequences are greater and less likely to recover.
And I have owned 5 FWD and 2 RWD cars.
With that said though, I don’t know how I feel about Corolla Hatch. I’m glad someone else is making a manual 4 door sporty hatch other than Honda and VW. And they are trying with even providing a manual.
But it is under powered as usual. To give you an idea the Matrix XRS made 180hp in 2003. Inb4 thats a performance version. Yeah so what, its been 15 years, figure it out. Honda is at 180hp with a 1.5L Turbo, with ECU tunes up to 230hp. Also Honda danced with 200hp in a NA 2.oL for almost 2 decades now. And that Matrix was 100hp/L as well.
I get Toyota is e xtremely cautious. The outside looks great for a modern hatch but it is frustrating when I know Toyota could better engineer whats underneath. Lateral, Figure 8, and Stopping distance are off of the main competitor. It also weighs almost 200 lb more
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> Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No
12/03/2018 at 18:09 |
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And you may well be correct. The Civic hatch has superior cargo space and, thus far, has been a largely reliable platform. Too bad the Si is sedan or coupe only -_-
bhtooefr
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 19:46 |
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It’s a shame we almost certainly won’t get the Touring Sports (which is actually based on the new sedan (longer wheelbase), not the hatch), or the 2.0 hybrid in anything but the Lexus Ugly Crossover.
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Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/03/2018 at 19:57 |
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YUP! 100% with you on t hat one