$148!? come on, Subaru

"Bryan doesn't drive a 1M" (bryantakespictures) 11/28/2018 at 14:47 • Filed to: None

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I’m having the dealership put on my winter wheels with my oil change today because it saves me some time, and I’m there for the oil change anyway.

They gave me an estimate that reprogramming the TPMS was going to cost $148. I scoffed and they decided to do it for free, as they should. Who in their right mind would pay that much when I’m pretty sure Discount Tire or literally anywhere else would do it for free?

Not t o mention that it’s insane the car can’t remember more than one set of sensors.

404 - User No Longer Available > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 14:57

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Stealerships will always be stealerships.

And can’t be worse than Canadian dealers. One of my lug bolts mysteriously went missing (probably my fault somehow, apparently I’ve been driving with a missing lug bolt for some time, lol) .

US MSRP : $6

Canadian dealer price: $24.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 15:02

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That’s what new tpm sensors would cost...

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 15:05

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TPMS is the biggest scam in the whole auto industry. And it sucks because it is also so necessary because the average person is a lazy fuck and would never check tire pressure manually. In theory it isn’t bad, but in practice its just crap and adds unnecessary expense to the consumer. Certainly would be one of the first things I would try to remove from a car if I ever bought something newer. Seeing as I would definitely never buy a new set of sensors and dont want to live with the warning light forever.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 11/28/2018 at 15:19

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They actually send an email when the TPMS light comes on, so there’s no escape!

I told them that if it costs money that I’d just check my pressures manually. I guess that was enough for them to waive the fee.

As far as the scam goes, there is no reason they couldn’t just pop up something on the infotainment that says “I t looks like you have a new set of wheels. Register TPMS? Yes/No” 

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > 404 - User No Longer Available 11/28/2018 at 15:19

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Wow, Canadian lug bolts must be FANCY!

vicali > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 15:23

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Ooof.. glad my 08 Foz was the last of the non TPMS Subies..

I’ve heard tire shops telling customers that it’s a safety system and they can’t let it go without being done.. I would take just the rims in and have them mounted, then put them on myself. .

Tekamul > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 15:25

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Yeah, that’s dumb.  I ended up buying my own tool, because everybody wanted a fee.  It’s a little clunky, but works, and was <$100

nermal > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 15:28

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From my understanding TPMS is self-fixing for rotations . All you need to do is drive for a bit, and the sensors on the vehicle will pick up which wheel is where and correct themselves.

They do need to be programmed to the vehicle the first time though, which varies by manufacturer. Assuming you’ve already had these wheels and sensors set up with the vehicle initially, they should work after a short drive.

deekster_caddy > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 15:59

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This is why I install tires for friends and families. I mean, even for those vehicles which need actual TPMS programming, the tool was like $250.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 17:13

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I have a TPMS programmer, it works for Ford, and who ever else uses the same p rotocol. (315mhz, direct, highline?... I think BMW and Toyota use the same protocol... But whatever, i digress... ) the programmer cost $35 and the process to initialize and register new TPMS modules takes about 3 minutes. Most of that is spent getting the vehicle into setup mode. You then trigger each TPMS modue using the tool by holding it next to the valve stem and clicking the button. This causes the sensor to broad cast its serial number and status. You start with the left front and progress around the vehicle clockwise. When the vehicle sucessfully detects the sensor the horn blips, and you move onto the next. The system registers the initial location of the sensor due to setup procedure, and also remembers all four sensors. There is a transponder on each corner that queries the TPMS unit at each wheel independently, so depending on which TPMS unit responds when a corner is queried it can also figure out if tires have been rotated, its pretty idiot p roof. And the fact that the dealer wanted to charge you $ 149 to program them is ridiculous. If they were puttin g fresh batteries in at the same time, I could almost understand that as it requires dismouting and re-mounting each tire to access the TPMS unit... In any case, TPMS has saved me f rom ruining rims several times, by alerting me to a puncture before the tire came off the bead. I approve of it for that alone. 

Sir Halffast > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 11/28/2018 at 17:17

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Made of pure Apologium and rust-coated in Poutinium.