In the same style as FP posts -"Here's the new Honda Passport before you were supposed to see it"

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
11/27/2018 at 13:30 • Filed to: honda passport, honda, passport, crossover, crossovers

The launch is set for 6.30PM EST today. It’s a Shrunken 5 seat Pilot, 3.5L 280HP V6, 9 speed, Ridgeline’s AWD system (only on the top of the line Elite Trim, standard FWD). Interior is just like a Pilot’s. No pricing or MPG info out yet.

It gives me some Forester vibes

#Rugged

Roof Racks = #Adventure & #Outdoorsy

#Technology&Stuff

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DISCUSSION (45)

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:26

Not bad, not bad at all.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
11/27/2018 at 13:29

They are marketing it as Honda’s most Off road- y offering. Should have made AWD standard or at least available in lower trims.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:30

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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:31

Mmaybe, but keep in mind that you can still by a new 2WD 4runner

Mercedes Streeter > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:32

I dig it. Reminds me of my favourite generation of MDX sans the beak and a little more rugged-looking.

Kinja'd!!!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:32

I mean, from the video, it can totally CRUSH a very smooth gravel road that 99% of all other passenger cars can easily drive on.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
11/27/2018 at 13:32

Still it’s RWD, not a FWD small van with offroad cladding.

Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:34

SPOILERS IN REPLY!!!11

Jk jk, I like it. Definitely Forester -ey.

Party-vi > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:34

Is this a Grand Cherokee competitor?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:35

irrelevant , the point is that one of the most off-roadiest o ffroad vehicles does not come with 4WD standard on all trims. so the criticism that Honda has a FWD version of an AWD-advertised vehicle seems unfair, unless you wish to openly criticize both.

Chuckles > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:35

As someone who never needs a third row of seats, I like it. I also love the complete lack of chrome. New cars don't need big shiny pieces all over them.

The Dummy Gummy > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:37

Looks like an ugly version of a threesome between Forester, Edge and a CRV.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
11/27/2018 at 13:39

Oh no, I’m not giving the 4Runner a free pass. Just that even if it is not 4 WD it is RWD with body on frame, at least it’s not another FWD crossover like a million of them on the market . That is all.

random001 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:41

Looks like it’s trying to be the new New Rav4!?

Kinja'd!!!

CompactLuxuryFan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:44

Meh, I was hoping for SH-AWD at least. Is this literally just a shortened Pilot? A Pilot “Sport”, if you will? Holding out for the new Explorer.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:49

uprigth rear window, large rear 3/4 glass, almost flat belt line . me likely.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > CompactLuxuryFan
11/27/2018 at 13:49

From what they say in the video, system seems to be similar to SH-AWD- 70% to rear and 100% of that left or right.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:51

So what's the draw over a CR-V then? It's slightly more macho?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 13:53

Nobody is tracking them. For most applications, FWD or RWD makes no difference. In fact FWD might even be better because you get more traction in snow.

HammerheadFistpunch > CompactLuxuryFan
11/27/2018 at 13:57

It has SH-AWD. i-vtm4 is just the “truck” terminology for SH-AWD. Same modules.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
11/27/2018 at 13:57

It doesn’t matter to the millions who are going to line up to buy this end of the day but just that marketing claim irked me a bit.

Most Off-roady Honda model! *

*Only in the super-expensive highest level Elite trim

HammerheadFistpunch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
11/27/2018 at 13:58

At first I was all “nuh uh Zoidberg!” and then I looked and had a sad. They killed the 2wd wrangler and it was good.

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi
11/27/2018 at 13:58

Its an outback competitor. if that.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
11/27/2018 at 14:03

More space,more power, more #Offroady

CompactLuxuryFan > HammerheadFistpunch
11/27/2018 at 14:04

Oh, good!

Azrek > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 14:05

Can we show normal people trying to park this at a grocery store?

I chuckled a moment ago as I was getting lunch and a truck couldn’t fit in a normal sized spot between my E92 and a Mini. He tried a few times, but realized he could park his truck, but couldn’t open the doors.

Arrivederci > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 14:16

I like it! Like you said, big Forester vibe going on, especially from the taller greenhouse. Honda would’ve been wise to give it A WD on all trims I think, as that would’ve helped distance it a bit from both the CRV and Pilot.

I wonder if they’ll ugly it up and sell it as an Acura too?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 14:20

Ought to be reasonably sprightly with that much power, relative to some other cars in the class.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
11/27/2018 at 14:22

It’s MOAR... but not too much more... like if you think the Pilot is too much for you to handle...

Spanfeller is a twat > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 14:31

I’d like it!

But with two turbos.

Tripper > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 14:47

Kinja'd!!!

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 14:50

I it weird that I actually kinda like it? My wife would never let me buy a Honda new but I kinda like it

interstate366, now In The Industry > Arrivederci
11/27/2018 at 15:01

It's basically already a previous-gen RDX.

interstate366, now In The Industry > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 15:02

I like it.

BIGBLOCK472 - wide and bizarre > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 15:05

I bet you dollars to doughnuts that front end winds up on the Ridgeline refresh instead of the Pilot’s front clip.

jasmits > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
11/27/2018 at 15:08

If you were comparing FWD and RWD on this platform you’re probably right. However, a RWD solid-rear axle vehicle is much more off road capable than a FWD vehicle.

jasmits > HammerheadFistpunch
11/27/2018 at 15:11

Really it’s a competitor to that somewhat off-roady marketed Kia thingy they paraded around with fuel cans strapped to it in odd locations . Telluride I think?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > BIGBLOCK472 - wide and bizarre
11/27/2018 at 15:19

I would bet that as well.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Mercedes Streeter
11/27/2018 at 15:19

I see the similarity

ArmadaExpress drives a turbo outback > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 16:14

So it’s the Forester v6?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > ArmadaExpress drives a turbo outback
11/27/2018 at 16:17

Pretty much, without a CVT thankfully.

ArmadaExpress drives a turbo outback > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 16:37

so... ultimately it’s better as long as it’s reliable. Also, it looks really good.

carcrasher88 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 16:45

Very nice. Very, very nice. I support them using essentially the same dashboard as the Pilot and Ridgeline. It’s very well laid out and easy to get used to.

It’s a handsome middle child for Honda’s SUV lineup, and should give other 5-seat CUVs a run for their money. It’ll be a success and pleasant to see on the road.

Davos Swinney > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 17:16

Yeah but the ZF 9 speed isn’t so great either. I was hoping they might fit this with either the 6-speed from the Ridgeline or the new 10-speed.

Davos Swinney > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
11/27/2018 at 17:17

Yeah, I think the new pilot and ridge line have sh-awd for their systems, but they just don’t call it that.