What Classic Car Interests You the Least? 

"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo) 11/27/2018 at 10:25 • Filed to: None

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It seems like most Oppos have eclectic tastes in cars, and can appreciate lost of different makes, models, generations , and styles of car.

But even if you do like most cars there is bound to be a few that that just don’ t get you excited. here’ s one of mine The third gen Mercedes SL. Especially in Cabriolet trim.

These cars do nothing for me. The aesthetics are uninspired to say the least. the American market bumpers dont do them any favors. it looks like a cheap Russian imitation of what it wars supposed to be.

Adding the Euro bumpers and headlights, and losing the chrome fender trim does help, but I still cant look at this and say “yes i want to own that”

So what classic car just doesn’t fill your beans (not a real expression) 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:44

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Honestly, any GM. I just feel nothing for the brand and no vehicle they have ever made would be worth buying. I appreciate Corvettes, but would I own one? Not unless my dad has a jammer and I get his.

Even then, I am almost to tall to drive it. It was made for a short, 1960's dude.

CHANGE MY MIND OPPO.

Tripper > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:45

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Anything big and slow, I get why they’re cool and important but I don’t like.

I also share your sentiment about that particular generation of Mercedes SL, but go a little older and I love them.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:47

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....Honestly, all of them. The only classic car I have any feelings about is the Galaxie 500. And it has to be fastback and teal.

I have no feelings for anything else pre-1990s. Sorry.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:47

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Probably the classic mustang. Like yeah it looks kinda cool and the hertitage/history of it is important. But since driving it is supposed to be frightening/terrible I just cant appreciate it much. I feel this way about most classics just because I adore proper driving dynamics above all else. But that is definitely the poster child of it all. 

Arrivederci > Tripper 11/27/2018 at 10:47

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This is pretty much me as well - the cruisers are cool and I appreciate them , but I’d never have any interest in owning one.

KnowsAboutCars > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:48

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I feel the same way about this gen SL. I think the car in this photo is the only time I’ve seen a road car 3rd gen and went like ‘that’s really cool’.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:48

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hmmmm... nope.. no classic car that i can think of i wouldnt be interested in

but i make up for it by being not interested in damn near every new car

Brian, The Life of > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:50

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I appreciate all classics, it is the owners who can be the worst. Especially classic Woody owners. Peak Boomer shitheads, th ose guys. Sucks because I really like Woodies!

WilliamsSW > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:52

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I love old cars generally, but there are a few that just don’t interest me. Pony cars generally - the pony cars from the ‘60s are okay, the 1970+ pony cars don’t interest me at all.

And I’ll never understand the love some people have for ‘80s and ‘90s cars. I got my license in 1984, and hated new cars then, and still hate pretty much everything from that era.

Totally agree on the R107 Mercedes, too-  it’s a pig.

BeaterGT > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 11/27/2018 at 10:54

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There’s nothing to gain by brand loyalty on either side of the spectrum .  Well, maybe Ferrari.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:54

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Pretty much any American car from the mid to late ‘ 70s. Terrible styling and anemic engines makes for a bad combination.

lone_liberal > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:56

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Air-cooled VWs. They do absolutely nothing for me. To me they’re rolling roadblocks with terrible heaters.

BeaterGT > Tripper 11/27/2018 at 10:56

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Yes! And Luxo-barges.

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:56

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The VW Beetle maybe? But I’m not too sure about that anymore either, I think I like all classic cars now . I didn’t like them as a kid, but nowadays I do like a well kept or modified Beetle

ihm96 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 10:58

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The SLs are all cabriolets and I would love to own one, especially a 450 or a 560. I had one to drive for a month two summers ago while a friend worked on my clownshoe and it was so fun to drive. That V8 has tons of torque and can easily get up to 140+, its got that beautiful hood, a smooth ride, and that big 80s style steering wheel thats awesome. The stock wheels on a lot of them are kinda ugly but thats an easy fix

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 11/27/2018 at 10:58

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Corvettes, and Corvairs are just about the only GM cars that get me excited. and even with Corvettes its pretty much the bang of the buck of late C4s and early C5s that makes me like them. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > BeaterGT 11/27/2018 at 10:59

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I wouldn’t say I am brand loyal, just that GM legitimately has never made a single vehicle I like. I appreciate they’ve made some good ones and that people love some of their cars, but I would never buy any over the competition.

I don’t have a favorite brand, but I have a few that do nothing for me.

ihm96 > ihm96 11/27/2018 at 11:00

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This is the one I drove. Blue on blue was classy. Also, with how cheap these are, and how reliable and generally bulletproof they are, they are such a great value. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:01

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Corvairs are interesting for their historic importance and uniqueness. I appreciate that Corvettes are cool, but the owners turn me off and I’d just rather have other machines, even though they’d be worse “drivers cars” for the same price.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > KnowsAboutCars 11/27/2018 at 11:01

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Looking for pics I found this one any i kinda like it. which really just proves that nice wheels and fat tires make anything look cool

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:02

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anything american from the fifties onward with the exception of the GT40

Tripper > Tripper 11/27/2018 at 11:02

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These I love

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 11/27/2018 at 11:02

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Key word ALMOST

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 11/27/2018 at 11:02

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thats harsh. 

3point8isgreat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 11/27/2018 at 11:03

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I’ve been a Corvette fan since I was 6 and played the first Gran Turismo game. But even then I know it’s like saying I really like the latest Pop song. They’re completely reflections of what’s “cool” at the exact moment each generation came out.

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:05

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I’m sorry but they have no design compared to Euro cars from the same era

fintail > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:07

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Hot rod Tri-Chevies, 70s-80s style rods/customs of 30s-40s cars, lookalike Chevelles and similar. Cars that appeal most to a specific generation.

I’ve seen 107s called a “German Buick”, and that might be apt - they are certainly not sporty or light like a 113. Probably the least sporty SL. But if you look at it as a disco-chic boulevardier rather than a sports car, it fits better.  They never (as far as I know) left the assembly line with chrome fender trim.  I think the hardtop might have been optional at specific points in time and markets, but most should have it.

Milky > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:08

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Sadly the FWD Cadillacs. They look cool but if I ever got to 3rd or 4th car status and wanted a classic, it’d have to be V8 and RWD.

no ^

yes ^

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 11/27/2018 at 11:09

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lol. I can barely fit my knees under the wheel. But hey, once I’m in? Time to move!!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 11/27/2018 at 11:09

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I’m not so sure about that.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Milky 11/27/2018 at 11:11

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Absolutly. Plus a FWD cant do this.

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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > 3point8isgreat 11/27/2018 at 11:13

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I think that all cars are a reflection of societal trends. Lemay: America’s Car Museum in Tacoma, WA is basically structured around that.

I think that the Corvette reflects what’s cool to one demographic.  But I do think it reflects what American’s idea of a performance car is from decade to decade.

3point8isgreat > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:14

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I don’t think I have strong feelings one way or another towards most, but not all, classics. Enough for an appreciative nod and look over at a car show, but probably not go home and dream about.

I’ll go with Ferrari’s.  I don’t care that it won some random rally in the 60's.  All I see is an overpriced and unreliable machine that reminds me of all the reasons why I don’t like them as a company.

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 11/27/2018 at 11:14

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with the exception of the mini

Milky > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:14

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So majestic.  

Svend > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:17

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Honestly!? The Ferrari 250 (almost all of them) .

Just does nothing for me what so ever.

I mean look at what else was about at that time.

Lancia Aurelia b24

Atalanta Jaguar C Type

Aston Martin DB2

Austin Healey 100

Fiat 500c Topolino Belvedere

Jaguar XK120

Triumph 2000 Italia

BMW 507

MG Y-Type Zagato

Citroen DS

Aston Martin DB4 Zagato

BeaterGT > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 11/27/2018 at 11:19

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Not a single one in 100+ years? I’m impressed by your resolve. 

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:19

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C1 and C2 Corvettes (which is odd because I think the original Camaro is cool)

VW Beetle and Bus

M ost 19 50s barges with some exceptions such as the original T-bird

I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with them since so many people collect them; they just don’t tickle me at all.

Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:20

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Any Porsche. Don't care. Hell almost anything old and British I don't care about. Not sorry.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Milky 11/27/2018 at 11:20

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I feel like he should have been throwing empty Hamms cans out the window to complete the look.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! 11/27/2018 at 11:22

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this thread has basically turned into “how long can we go without starting a fight”

So far Oppo is the least salty place on the internet. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Svend 11/27/2018 at 11:24

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I didnt know there was ever a drop top DS. neat. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > BeaterGT 11/27/2018 at 11:25

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I can’t think of one where Ford/Dodge didn’t make a competitor I’d rather have.

Tripper > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:26

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Lol this is hardcore! I love it.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Tripper 11/27/2018 at 11:28

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This was at Proving Grounds. at BIR,  in Brainerd Mn a few years ago. IDK if the guy is still driving this car but this wasn’t he first event .

For Sweden > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 11/27/2018 at 11:30

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they have no design

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > For Sweden 11/27/2018 at 11:33

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Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:36

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I will make exceptions for some but if it’s a stock car, it does nothing for me. Like I would take a Jag XJS but it’s going to need a V8 in it. Just saying the hard truths for me. I can appreciate the work someone put into a car to restore it but I won't necessarily love it.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:39

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60's and 70's muscle cars just don’t do it for me. I can respect the 2nd and early 3rd gen Corvettes as sports cars with big engines, and I can get behind the no half-measures approach of going full land yacht in the form of big Lincolns and Cadillacs of the time (even the big Chryslers have an appeal to me), but few things interest me less than some boomer’s wet dream of a Charger, Mustang, Camero, Challenger, Chevelle, whatever... I’ve driven or been in enough of them to resent that despite making a great noise, most of them in stock form don’t even do particularly well the only thing they were supposed to... go fast in a straight line. There are few exceptions to this, like the very early Z/28 Camero that was basically a homologation special for Trans-Am racing.

Svend > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:40

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There’s so many cars out there that don’t even get a look in, forgotten in time.

There was a few over the years.

1955 DS21

1964 DS19

1970 DS21

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! 11/27/2018 at 11:41

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It is funny how modifications can make something more interesting. Actually what started the idea for this thread was that I found a 5 00 dollar shell of an old SL and thought, ‘I could make a cool, super low, rat road thing out of that” and then immediately thought “that’s the first time I’ve looked at one of those and been remotely interested in one of those.”

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/car/6757150730.html

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Svend 11/27/2018 at 11:44

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they all look like an absolute joy to cruise around in. 

For Sweden > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 11/27/2018 at 11:45

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That is also an attractive car yes

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 11/27/2018 at 11:46

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I’ve driven a 71 0r 72 Mustang Mach 1 before. a it had the correct 4 valve 351 and all that. And it was absolute garage to drive. It was about as enjoyable as an SN95  V6.

syaieya > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:50

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While ill admit the US spec SLs are at best late 70s cool.

They did take the coupes rally racing.

My dead spot in classic cars are concours level surviving american brands.

They are so plentiful and hardly even used being show cars that once youve seen one you’ve got a solid idea about what to expect for the next couple decades. I dont care if its the only one made that year with those options, the one 4 spaces down looks identical except the AC controls and neither one is driving farther than the trailer home.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > syaieya 11/27/2018 at 11:52

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modification can make any car cool.

Taking that modified car rally racing makes it even better.

Svend > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:55

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You get to hear a little of the engine in this one.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 11:58

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This. For me, nostalgia and nice noises don’t compensate from them generally being terrible to drive machines.

The fact is that my sister’ s 2016 V6 mustang (with a manual) is a faster car than the vast majority of those muscle cars, and being an S550 it is actually a legitimately good handling car, stops well, gets nearly 30mpg on the highway, and is otherwise very good at generally being a car. To be fair, in her V6 base trim with tall, narrower soft sidewall tires and softer base suspension make it a better 9/10ths car on a twisty canyon road, as it loses some composure at 10/10 ths. The performance package suspension S550s that I’ve driven rectify this problem.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Svend 11/27/2018 at 12:05

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looks they aren’ t cheap either. not surprising this one is still across the pond and its 150,000 USD. Its defiantly been added to my dream car list.

  https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/citroen/ds/ds-21-usine/1968/139080

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 12:13

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It can if the e-brake works ;)

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 11/27/2018 at 12:15

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you’d need one hell of an ebrake for a 4000lb Cadillac to butt slide.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > WilliamsSW 11/27/2018 at 12:16

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Likewise, I don’t understand people’s love for newer cars.

They’re just like 90s cars only with more useless tech, more weight, less feeling, and generally less comfort.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 12:17

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How DARE you. The SL was the coolest rally car ever.

It's Porsches for me. I can't bring myself to care about them.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Tripper 11/27/2018 at 12:19

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After owning one of these:

I can tell you you are severely wrong on the slow point. This car pulled like a freight train 0-120 mph. It was smooth, powerful, surprisingly light handling, and fuel efficient.

I wish manufacturers would make big block yachts again.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 11/27/2018 at 12:19

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yes I’d drive that one. 

Milky > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 12:19

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Then we all go “uncle Steve! you know better. ”

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 11/27/2018 at 12:19

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This is pretty much my view.

I have no interest in “common” classics.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 12:20

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Na, all the weight is in the nose. You’d be surprised how easily they’ll swing the rear around.

Svend > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 12:23

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Ye’, your looking at anything from $100 to 200,000.

Rarity is a poor mistress to the not s o fina ncially inclined individual. 

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 12:38

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I was never a fan of that version of the SL either.

Aside from that, t here are quite a few “classics” that do nothing for me ... but if I had to pick one, the Studebaker Lark does nothing for me:

Also the BMW E21 3-series, the E28 5-series and the E23 7-series never did anything for me.

Also from a driving perspective, I don’t salivate over the prospect of driving a classic car.  Most of them, compared to modern cars, are shit to drive.

shop-teacher > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 12:59

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Right there with you on those SL Mercs.  I grew up in a fairly wealthy area in the 80's/90's, and those things were EVERYWHERE.  So boring looking, so uninteresting.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 13:34

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Also this! The magic of Oppo is that everyone here usually is excellent to each other. The spectrum of interests on Oppo is big enough that there aren’t silos, and we embrace the variety. There are folks here into cars I don’t care for at all, but I respect that they’re into them and I’m glad we get a glimpse of their particular flavor madness to complement our own.

The saltiest car place I’ve seen on the internet are corvette forums. There is some great information on them, but those guys are quicker to start calling each other assholes than any other place I’ve browsed.

Back in the day, g1teg.org circa 2003 reminded me a little bit of Oppo. It was certainly silo’d on 1st gen Integras, but everyone there was generally excellent to each other, and there were some folks that posted a fair amount off topic on other cars they owned that folks were interested in reading about.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 11/27/2018 at 13:41

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Make/model specific forums can be so freaking salty. the Galant VR-4 froum’s introduction basically said “if youre a stupid Honda kid, this car is too much for you and you need to sell yours and go buy another stupid Honda”

As a former Honda kid, that really made me want to leave the forum, but I needed information, and more importantly parts.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 13:56

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Actually, I have another classic car that interests me even less than classic muscle cars: The MGB.

My disrespect for these cars is rooted in my mechanical mentor being a classic British car guy. The MGB would’ve been a fantastic 50's sports car, but the problem was that MG for some reason built a 50's sport car in the 60's, and even worse was that they kept building them into the 70's and beyond, and people kept buying them. By the 60's, Triumph , Jaguar and Lotus to name just a few   offered sports cars that were superior in every way to the MGB.

I do confess to understanding the visual appeal of the MGB GT, but whenever it is expressed on Oppo I try to remind folks that the Triumph GT6 was a superior car in every way. . I can get behind the Midget, and even the very, very pretty MGA (a 50's sports car built in the 50's, even it did have an engine from the 40's ) , but I don’t get the lust for the MGB. The only thing worse is the typical MGB owner wanking on about how great they think their car is. I do see some hope in that some of them are now being bought by younger owners that may be less likely to go for cruises to meet for breakfast and pontificate . They’re only good if haven’t experienced any of the better British sports cars of the time.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 11/27/2018 at 14:18

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What about the Spitfire and GT6? 

AestheticsInMotion > Tripper 11/27/2018 at 15:03

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Mmmmm gib

Pickup_man > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 15:34

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1st gen Camaro, p retty much any of the big Ford muscle cars, Galaxie, Fairlane etc, Lead Sleds/low riders, basically all   cars from the 40's and 50's, the trucks however I love. Porsche 911. Most Mercedes Benz ’s , especially the SL you mentioned above. 

WilliamsSW > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 11/27/2018 at 15:46

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I like some newer cars, but I feel like we have passed the peak - new cars are quicker, but they’re all heavier, number (thanks electric PS!), and overly tech laden.

And all of that is just going to keep getting worse...

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/27/2018 at 16:54

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I dig both of those.  I don’t desire a spitfire, but there is some circumstance possible where I would find future garage space for a GT6.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 11/27/2018 at 17:17

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Yeah the MGB GT used to be my favorite British car, until I learned about the GT6