Oppofact #315

"CB" (jrcb)
11/13/2018 at 21:53 • Filed to: Oppositefact

Somewhere around 2015-2016 , we actually accidentally broke off into a different timeline by building a Mustang that revs higher than a Civic. The original timeline, however, brought back the Probe to compete with the Civic, so we’re probably better off in this one.

DISCUSSION (33)

Stephenson Valve Gear > CB
11/13/2018 at 22:12

Sad confession time - I’ve never had the Coyote in my ‘17 up to the redline. Even when ( I think) I’m wringing it out a bit, I find myself shifting at 5 or 6k.

I must be getting old... sigh...

CB > Stephenson Valve Gear
11/13/2018 at 22:14

As a novice manual driver, I accidentally redline a lot.

Stephenson Valve Gear > CB
11/13/2018 at 22:15

That’s ok, that is why cars are equipped with rev limiters... :-D

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Stephenson Valve Gear
11/13/2018 at 22:29

You have to go to redline at least ONCE.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > CB
11/13/2018 at 22:31

We truly live in the darkest timeline.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > CB
11/13/2018 at 22:34

My sister has owned a probe, a c ivic and a mustang, and all with manual transmissions. I should probably get her on O ppo.

NKato > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/13/2018 at 22:38

Managed to do that in my CVPI, now I need to figure out how difficult it'd be to swap in a Coyote Gen3 and a 10 speed.

Stephenson Valve Gear > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/13/2018 at 22:44

I’ll try to put it on the limiter... someday... :-)

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > CB
11/13/2018 at 22:46

Red line in a tiny turbo car. Fun yes, but there is no power up top. Due to track driving the redline in my head is 5500rpm, that’ s where all the power & tor que drop off.

Chariotoflove > CB
11/13/2018 at 22:49

Hey, I’d kinda like if they resurrected the Probe.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CB
11/13/2018 at 22:53

Yeah the new Honda’s 1.5l is designed for torque and drivablity not high RPM HP.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > CB
11/13/2018 at 23:01

No, the one without the Probe is the bad timeline.

Because the Probe got a Yamaha V8 a la the Taurus SHO.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/13/2018 at 23:46

I found the rev limiter in my Golf one time. Now I just shift right on 6k.

AestheticsInMotion > Chariotoflove
11/13/2018 at 23:53

My old one was infuriating. The automatic sliding seatbelts (remember those?) would always get stuck halfway in their tracks, or not automatically slide down when I opened the door.

That said it was pretty neat when it worked

Derpwagon > Chariotoflove
11/14/2018 at 00:08

The name sucked. The car was good. I have a 95 gt that is in crappy shape, but it's still a fun car to drive.

Jayhawk Jake > Stephenson Valve Gear
11/14/2018 at 08:28

You know the tach turns red at night when you hit redline , right?

Jayhawk Jake > NKato
11/14/2018 at 08:29

Why not just get a Mustang with a Coyote?

Chariotoflove > AestheticsInMotion
11/14/2018 at 09:59

Those belts can really get in the way.

Chariotoflove > Derpwagon
11/14/2018 at 10:02

I remember a crude Bob & Tom radio skit about Buttman and his sidekick Swallow. The Buttmobile was a brown Probe.

NKato > Jayhawk Jake
11/14/2018 at 14:00

Because too many electronics. And it looks a hell of a lot less convenient for maintenance compared to the CVPI.

Jayhawk Jake > NKato
11/14/2018 at 14:46

Wut. If you don’t need to do as much maintenance then why does it matter how convenient it is? And how is it ‘less convenient’ for maintenance than swapping in a new engine and powertrain?

NKato > Jayhawk Jake
11/14/2018 at 15:54

Put it this way, the Mustang as it is now is overly reliant on computers. Which means a lot of features and systems are blackboxed. Doing any maintenance on the car will invariably require a visit to a dealership. And all the Ford service departments in my area are garbage .

The Crown Vic, on the other hand, doesn’t require such bespoke maintenance work (outside of the electronic modules) . Any joe with a wrench and elbow grease can do what’s needed.

Stephenson Valve Gear > Jayhawk Jake
11/14/2018 at 20:20

Nope, had no idea it did that. Now I’ll have to take it to redline in the dark...

Jayhawk Jake > NKato
11/14/2018 at 20:57

That’s so not true though. All of this maintenance you’re talking about where electronics are the issue is engine related, so if you swapped a Coyote in you’d have the same problem.

An engine is an engine, suspension is suspension. I have a Coyote with nearly 56,000 miles on it and have not had any maintenance issues that would require dealership intervention.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > NKato
11/14/2018 at 21:02

Let me get this straight: You want to swap in an electronic heavy engine, with an even more electronic heavy trans, into a car with a system that wasn’t made to communicate with that engine, to avoid the complexity of the newer, better car?

That’s pretty stupid.

Your boy, BJR > NKato
11/15/2018 at 01:17

Don’t you take it to a Chevy dealership and overpay anyway already? Why are you concerned about new cars having to be serviced at dealerships if you already get your old ass C rown Vic serviced at a dealership? What actually is that logic?

NKato > Your boy, BJR
11/15/2018 at 01:43

My roommate works at that dealership. He is able to double check the work done on my car. Also, he drives a Foxbody Mustang.

As far as I'm concerned, that's peace of mind that I need.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > NKato
11/15/2018 at 08:26

the Mustang as it is now is overly reliant on computers. Which means a lot of features and systems are blackboxed.

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The Crown Vic, on the other hand, doesn’t require such bespoke maintenance work (outside of the electronic modules)

Mustang bad because computers

Crown vic fine but it has computers

Bruh what.

Doing any maintenance on the car will invariably require a visit to a dealership.

Pls tell me what maintenance is made so much harder by the Mustang’s “black box” systems. Cuz lemme tell you: AC compressor on a 2018 mustang is just as annoying as an ‘86 mustang. Wheel bearings are actually SIGNIFICANTLY easier on most modern cars. Diagnoses is usually a cakewalk because the computer spits out a code telling me where to start looking (though not necessarily what to replace, so you have to use your noggin). And there’s only one or two potential vacuum leak sources compared to the 80s and 90s cars I’ve owned where the first step in diagnosing any runnability issue consists of “replace $200 worth of obnoxious vacuum lines because they’re shit anyways”.

This luddite attitude is disingenuous and nonsensical.

NKato > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
11/15/2018 at 15:22

My car also spits out a code that gives me a place to start looking. That’s the magic of OBDII.

Look, my Crown Vic is basically smack dab in the middle of old-tech and new-tech. Which is pretty comfortable for me. Plus, it has character.

That said, I might consider getting a Mustang or the 4-door Stang (which I’m dubbing the Falcon), only if the car can actually be maintained by the end-user beyond the warranty period.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > NKato
11/15/2018 at 15:29

Mustangs don’t have character?

only if the car can actually be maintained by the end-user beyond the warranty period.

Please point me to a mainstream ICE car that can’t be maintained beyond the warranty period.

NKato > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
11/15/2018 at 15:34

BMW’s? :P

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > NKato
11/15/2018 at 15:46

cool meme.

Spanfeller is a twat > Stephenson Valve Gear
11/16/2018 at 10:35

I’ve never redlined my stinger either