[POLITICS]: Are you kidding me right now?

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
11/12/2018 at 18:01 • Filed to: None

The politician who de finitively showed that she could lose a presidential election to Donald Trump wants to do so once again.

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DISCUSSION (100)

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:07

Do you want a two term Trump? Because that’s how you get a two term Trump.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 18:09

Ugh no joke. Dems only hope is to get Beto to run in 2020. Anyone but hillary

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:10

she needs to figure out when to stop

If you lose to a cheeto man child that’s a pretty good sign people don’t want you

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:12

I think I speak for most dems:

Kinja'd!!!

WilliamsSW > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/12/2018 at 18:13

I don’t know much about him, but yeah, I’m kind of ‘anyone but Hillary’ too.

Chariotoflove > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:13

She would not have the backing of her party, not if there is any sanity to its leadership anyway. The Dems would be much better off figuring out how to develop someone new and field a challenger with a real chance, not looking to the past.

PS9 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:15

“Former Clinton advisor. "LOLOLOL. If this didn't come from the horses mouth (clinton herself) it came from somewhere else on the horse, and it smells just about right. It's horseshit until we get an official declaration of candidacy, which I can guarantee we will not.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove
11/12/2018 at 18:17

The Dems would be much better off figuring out how to develop someone new and field a challenger with a real chance, not looking to the past.

It’s entirely possible that everyone *except* Democratic leadership knows this. I would worry that no one else rises above the fray, and D leaders are drawn to her like a moth to a flame...

NKato > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:18

fucking STOP, Democrats.

nermal > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:19

I began dancing with my Trumpy Bear in jubilation upon reading this news!

LongbowMkII > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 18:20

Yeah democrats want a two term trump.

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:20

I like to think they (the Dem party) aren’t dumb enough to make her the ticket, so it’s a lot of babble about nothing, at least so far.

Almost anyone else would be more palatable these days, unless they call deplorables deplorables.

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:20

It was close. If it was a boxing match, we would want a rematch.

WilliamsSW > For Sweden
11/12/2018 at 18:23

Maybe - if there’s some actual boxing involved, I might be interested

Mercedes Streeter > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/12/2018 at 18:25

Anyone but hillary

Dammit I’m not 35 yet.

*First day in office*

“I’m signing an EO ending both the Chicken Tax and the 25 year import ban. Car enthusiasts, eat your hearts out!”

BobintheMtns > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:28

Mark Penn, the guy quoted in the story is a notorious dumbass and is pretty much full of shit. Penn’s just trying to attract more twitter followers or some shit....

Hillary’s done. None of us need to worry about her ever again.

nermal > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/12/2018 at 18:29

Nah, they need a boring 50-ish yr old white guy. Somebody that looks like your friend’s Hot Dad (tm). Not too strongly opinioned one way or another, but not too much of a weenie to get eviscerated by Trump in debates. Martin Omalley was the perfect candidate last time, but they blew it.

Beto was arrested on Burglary charges and DUI / DWI charges, so screw him for all eternity. He’d never make it on the national stage.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > BobintheMtns
11/12/2018 at 18:32

That’s what you say but she is like Columbo, keeps coming back and saying there’s more!

BobintheMtns > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
11/12/2018 at 18:38

Nope. She’s done.

She (and her husband, at this point) have been shown to be a liability.

There is an old Poli sci 101 ‘test’ you can do for a political candidate that the democrats forgot to do last time..

Who does your candidate excite more? Your political party, or the opposition?

Democrats’ on hillary: “ehhhh ... I guess it’s her time... “

Republicans on Hillary: “FUCK THAT SHIT!! I WILL CRAWL THRU BROKEN GLASS AND FIRE TO VOTE AGAINST HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Hillary is the greatest get-out-the-vote mechanism the republicans have ever had.... And everyone realizes that now.

Did you see either of the Clinton’s campaigning for any candidates leading up to the midterms??

They’re done.

(thank god)

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > BobintheMtns
11/12/2018 at 18:40

And I repeat what you said. Thank God.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 18:45

10/10 would pay a subscription fee just to watch that

Spanfeller is a twat > Chariotoflove
11/12/2018 at 18:46

Just put Kamala Harris in the ticket

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 18:47

I mean, don’t run her.

On the other hand, if they run a lame duck for Trump to attack, they can focus on winning back some senate seats and solidifying the house

David Baker > Chariotoflove
11/12/2018 at 18:51

Be to O’Rourke is who the democrats need in 2020. Hillary is smart/qualified but deeply unlikable. She has had her chance, time to retire from politics.

ttyymmnn > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
11/12/2018 at 18:54

Kinja'd!!!

jimz > BobintheMtns
11/12/2018 at 18:58

Hillary is the greatest get-out-the-vote mechanis m the republicans have ever had.... And everyone realizes that now.

Trump didn’t win on a “GOtV” push. Clinton won more popular votes than Romney and McCain (and Trump, but let’s not go there.) Trump won because he grabbed the electoral votes from states the Clinton campaign ignored. the vast majority of people who voted for Trump would vote for whoever had an (R) after their name. The ones that swung the election were the blue-collar set who thought “eh, she’s peddling the same weak-ass line of wishy-washy shit every other politician has done for the last 40 years, and shit for us just keeps getting worse. This guy actually sounds like he might get something done.”

jimz > Spanfeller is a twat
11/12/2018 at 19:02

the problem I see, if there actually is anything to this rumor (and I’m not convinced there is) is that it would come off as the Democrats haughtily saying “so, did you all realize your mistake, and will you vote the ‘right’ way this time?” And the GOP would ride that for all it’s worth.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 19:04

Cani run with the main point of not being a piece of shit? It should be no contest right?

WilliamsSW > Mercedes Streeter
11/12/2018 at 19:10

Ok you have my vote

dogisbadob > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 19:13

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

She needs to understand they they DON’T LIKE HER! I also like the way she defended AGAIN saying Bill didn’ t abuse her power with Lewinsky. Just NO

And Pelosi wants to be the speaker again. Again, NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Pelosi and Hillary need to GO AWAY

O’Malley should run again , with the VP running mate being Kamala Harris, Andrew Gillum, or someone good from Ohio

Bonnie Watson Coleman should be the speaker

dogisbadob > nermal
11/12/2018 at 19:14

So in other words, Beto is overqualified :p

(sorry, I had to)

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 19:14

Add this to the list of BS articles based on nothing but conjecture we will continue to see for the next decade at least by using the name “Clinton” to drive hysteria and clicks.

Even if she planned on running (and I don’t believe there’s any reliable evidence that she does) no way in hell she’ll be the nominee. And I say this as a snowflake liberal who would’ve happily voted for her if I were eligible to do so.

dogisbadob > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 19:14

Yup! This is why Joe Crowley lost his seat to Ocasio

dogisbadob > nermal
11/12/2018 at 19:15

That Trumpy Bear is so cute

Svend > For Sweden
11/12/2018 at 19:15

Ye', it was so close, she had more votes but he got in because of how the U.S. system is.

For Sweden > Svend
11/12/2018 at 19:24

You play to win the game, not to boost ultimately useless stats.

DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever > Svend
11/12/2018 at 19:32

tbh if it’d been the other way around and Trump had more electoral votes and Hilary won by the electoral college, the left would be going on about how the founding fathers created the electoral college for this exact reason and the right would be calling it undemocratic. (and both would technically be correct).

wkiernan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 19:46

The United States absolutely doesn’t deserve as good a President as she would be. Too many illiterates , t oo many mouth-breathing bigots, t oo many people who can listen to five minutes of Fox “News” without howl ing “Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!” until they’re hoarse. We deserve shit, and that’s what we’ve got.

The Dummy Gummy > For Sweden
11/12/2018 at 19:55

She lost twice. Time to hang it up.

Kinja'd!!!

fintail > nermal
11/12/2018 at 19:56

It’s not obese or orange enough.

Oh wait, this is real, not a SNL commercial parody or Onion sketch.

Jayvincent > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 19:58

Kinja'd!!!

Jayvincent > PS9
11/12/2018 at 19:59

I had to post it twice, it’s too perfect not to follow PS9's quote

Kinja'd!!!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 20:35

When you wrestle a pig, you both get muddy, but the pig enjoys it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Svend
11/12/2018 at 20:35

3,000,000 more...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 20:37

How about a “moderate” like Jeff Flake running as an independent? That would crazify everyting.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat
11/12/2018 at 20:38

Qualified, but can she peel voters from the center?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > David Baker
11/12/2018 at 20:38

She listens to such counsel like Donald Trump listens to his counselors.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > dogisbadob
11/12/2018 at 20:40

I read some reporting recently that said the people who elected Ocasio largely do not look like Ocasio. It’s complicated.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > nermal
11/12/2018 at 20:40

As well you should be.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > nermal
11/12/2018 at 20:42

Kinja’d.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 20:44

I have no idea... just saying what I’d like. Maybe have Chuck Schumer in the ticket too to calm shit down.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > BobintheMtns
11/12/2018 at 20:45

(God w ould be capitalized, if you insist on mentioning Him.)

I hope you are correct. I knew HRC was a disaster and I said so to my ( uber -) liberal extended family and they all cried aloud, But Donald Trump! as if saying so would make HRC somehow less unelectable.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz
11/12/2018 at 20:46

Another oppo, I’m not certain which one, put it thus: “They knew they were going to lose either way, so why not roll the dice on Trump?”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz
11/12/2018 at 20:47

What you’ve said is precisely what I fear, because it’s the mindset that drove the DNC last time.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > wkiernan
11/12/2018 at 20:48

Why don’t you tell us how you really feel?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > fintail
11/12/2018 at 20:50

The only thing the Rs haven’t done yet is call someone the N-word on a campaign brochure. That’s why the likes of Trey Gowdy and Jeff Flake are fleeing for the exits. You can be a conservative and earn an A+ from the NRA and not be an overt hater.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Jayvincent
11/12/2018 at 20:51

Just reporting the reporting.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > nermal
11/12/2018 at 20:53

You know what I’d like to see? Jeff Flake or Nikki Haley or Trey Gowdy running an independent ticket, any two of them. I think they could take the country by a landslide.

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 20:55

Depends on the specific candidate. F lake seems more likely to primary Trump, I suspect. But I don’t give him a chance - after Kavanaugh, I think both sides dislike him.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat
11/12/2018 at 20:57

My favorite Democrat politician is Goofy Elizabeth Warren. I like her a bunch and I think she’d be very good as president. But I think Trump would skewer her, already has. I think Schumer would be little more electable than HRC proved to be. I’d like to see an independent ticket with Flake or Haley or Gowdy. I don’t think a progressive nuclear holocaust of a ticket is the answer right now.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 20:59

Both sides may dislike him, but do they dislike him less than President Trump? I spend way to much time obsessively following all of this and none of the people being spoken of as a presidential cont ender for the Dems is anyone I’ve ever heard of.

dogisbadob > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:01

Crowley didn’t even show up to the primary debates, instead sending a Latina stand-in who works for DeBlasio. He took his seat for granted and thought he was safe. The best part is that he really, really wanted to be the speaker.

The people in his district simply got tired of his arrogance and voted Ocasio instead.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:09

Ah, I’d love Elizabeth Warren... but she burnt so much political capital defending her stupid heritage claims...

About the independent ticket, I’m not sure how that would go.... I mean, Flake isn’t exactly loved by the left cus of the whole Kavanaugh thing, and the right hates him because of the whole Kavanaugh thing. I find that the conservative leaning centrists are less willing to break party lines than the liberal ones... (Republicans are very disciplined.) So it would only end up with a bigger loss for the democrat.

Svend > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:10

That’s crazy. And that’s coming from a country that voted 52% to leave the E.U. and still the 48% wanting it stopped or another vote, etc...

I voted to remain but then again I'd like to see us trade more with other Commonwealth countries just like 80% of the CANZUK countries when asked have said they would also.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > dogisbadob
11/12/2018 at 21:15

It doesn’t hurt that Ocasio is drop-dead beautiful. But yeah: enough of DNC arrogance. Bill and Hillary need to get on the ferry to Valinor.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat
11/12/2018 at 21:17

The person I’m mad about WRT the Kavanaugh thing is DiFi. If she had goods on Kavanaugh, she should have aired it early enough for a proper investigation to take place -- or not. I’m sick of all these old Democrats.

wkiernan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:23

OK, I will. I’ll express myself without reserve. I’m gonna let it all hang out and hold nothing back, no matter who disapproves.

Ready? Here goes....

Miatas are NUMBER ONE B E S T C A R !!!!!

Kinja'd!!!

I h a v e o t h e r o p i n i o n s but they are secondary.

boxrocket > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:23

Screw it, let ‘er run. I’m looking forward to greater division and the complete implosion of at least one of the major parti es, and the dnc seems more and more likely to fall on its own grenade. Warren will take some one way, Bernie a small passionate chunk another, some moderates will cross party lines, and hopefully we’ll see the end of bipartisanship in this country in a few years.

boxrocket > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 21:27

Or they felt/feel they owe it to her for 2008... That’s been my theory for a decade, anyway.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:29

We’ll never know... by protecting the identity they also gave Kavanaugh less time to prepare.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > wkiernan
11/12/2018 at 21:30

There is much Miata obsession in this space.

boxrocket > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:30

Before this year or so, Warren was making a lot of right moves to considered PotUS/VPotUS material. Recent developments and actions seem to have derailed that. Probably for the better, as she has shown herself as ill- s uited for a stage beyond where she is now.

boxrocket > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 21:36

Really? I thought a two-term Trump was more-or-less inevitable (I’m not saying I want that, just that looking at it on the long view, it seems extremely likely; whether Pence is able to become his elected successor is less probable) , precisely because the DNC lacks clear and focused direction, management, and leadership. But don’t tell them that, since they know what’s best for everyone.

boxrocket > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/12/2018 at 21:37

Beto lost to Ted friggin’ Cruz. I think his bird is cooked.

WilliamsSW > boxrocket
11/12/2018 at 21:41

It’s not inevitable. People thought the RNC was a mess in the summer of 2016, and that President Hilary was inevitable.

Yes, the DNC is a mess, but they did okay last week, and have 2 years to right the ship.

WilliamsSW > boxrocket
11/12/2018 at 21:42

Better to learn that now than after she wins the nomination at least.

WilliamsSW > boxrocket
11/12/2018 at 21:45

I think maybe Hilary felt that way (I get the impression she thinks she’s more entitled than she is) but I think 2 0 16 was more about Bernie not actually being a Democrat ( he’s not), and people feeling he was too far left to win. The latter point is very debatable, but the part about him not being a Democrat is true.

boxrocket > WilliamsSW
11/12/2018 at 21:46

Perhaps, but it would have been entertaining as heck to see; the whole “heritage” thing was so cringe-worthy that if it were put on as a show, I couldn’t have eaten my popcorn for fear of missing out on the drama, and the lack of appetite from seeing such career suicide .

I find it amusing when folks who puff themselves up and put themselves in contention for positions they’re not suited for bluster and flail, and demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that they’re not fit for their intended roles. Not that that’s ever backfired, right...?

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 21:48

Trump ( and Clinton) are strongly disliked by large portions of the population, but they both also have strong bases of support.

Flake doesn’t- and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to spin his actions on Kavanaugh negatively in either direction. I think he committed political suicide there.

WilliamsSW > boxrocket
11/12/2018 at 21:51

Sometimes the candidate does all that and wins anyways...

dogisbadob > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 22:20

That too. Certainly doesn’t hurt. I think Trump likes her and thinks she’s hot, which is why he has been relatively quiet about her and not targeting her with his attacks on most democrats, CNN, fact checkers who call him out, anyone who disagrees with him, etc. The closest he has gotten was when he mocked Crowley for losing and Ocasio defended Crowley .

Her looks mad e it that much easier to vote for her when the old arrogant incumbent coasted at best , contempt at worst. Totally agree on Bill and Hillary, and Pelosi too.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 22:23

only thing that would be “ good” is that she would be a daily punching bag for trump, to distract him from the rest of the real candidates.

Jayvincent > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/12/2018 at 22:25

I realize that meme could have been misinterpreted ... Hillary’s campaign is the dea d horse and the dems (and the Clintons) need to give it up already. It wasn’t commentary on your article, you did fine

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > dogisbadob
11/12/2018 at 23:48

So sick of them.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Jayvincent
11/12/2018 at 23:51

Politics is giving me PTSD right now. If the Dems ran HRC again I:d almost be tempted to vote fro Trump out of spite.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/13/2018 at 05:26

she needs to realise her time has passed

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/13/2018 at 08:57

Funny thing is, some of them have done that, especially either under their breath, or in masked dog whistle talk. The base doesn’t care, they know a black person, so they aren’t racist.

I still get an arrogant fratboy dbag vibe from Goudy, like Kavanaugh kicked up a couple notches. Not a fan. He also represents the bad Carolina (not much of a difference there, but still).

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/13/2018 at 08:59

Throw Ben Sasse into the mix.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Jayvincent
11/13/2018 at 09:03

Don’t beat a dead gift horse in the mouth.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > wkiernan
11/13/2018 at 09:05

Seriously? Are you completely blind to what terrible people both of the Clintons are?

Just so we’re clear, I despise Trump as well.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/13/2018 at 09:06

She needs to shut the hell up, find a hole, and stay there for the next 2 years.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > pip bip - choose Corrour
11/13/2018 at 09:28

And some of her toadies...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > fintail
11/13/2018 at 09:30

“dbag” is a microaggression; just saying.

But when we even discuss Trey Gowdy, even in terms of “less unacceptable,” we illustrate the lurch the country has taken.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/13/2018 at 09:31

At least I've heard of him. I think the Democrats spent so long looking at HRC as the heir apparent that they totally lost.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/13/2018 at 09:32

Two decades.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/13/2018 at 09:47

Yeah, I’d be okay with that.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/13/2018 at 10:41

Kasich, one of the president’s sharpest GOP critics, has left the door open to a possible 2020 run against Trump, saying last week that he doesn’t “know” if he’ll run but believes “ there is a legitimate chance for a third party candidate .”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/13/2018 at 12:57

If you had a more moderate Republican, paired up with a more centrist Democrat, we could get Trump out of the Whitehouse, which needs to be Job One.

Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/13/2018 at 12:59

I won't vote for her. I had never cared about politics until the 2016 election. I went to a Bernie Sanders rally. I wrote in Bernie on my ballot. That's how much I don't like her.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW!
11/13/2018 at 13:08

At the time, I did not see Bernie as someone who could carry the flag. A good friend of mine, probably someone who voted for Trump because Never Hillary, has said more than once, “Why not Biden?” It had to be Hillary. After the DNC delivered us Donald Trump, I have trouble placing any faith in them.