"404 - User No Longer Available" (toni-cipriani)
11/01/2018 at 10:13 • Filed to: None
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"404 - User No Longer Available" (toni-cipriani)
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... is the manual transmission of laptops.
Most people don’t understand how to use them, and no one borrow my laptop ever. I love it.
Ash78, voting early and often
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11/01/2018 at 10:25 |
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When IBM brought the first Thinkpad out, it seemed crazy. But I don’t think there were any touchpads on the market, so it was either Thinkpad or external mouse. The pad was revolutionary and very intuitive, but I still find myself using a tiny external wireless mouse 99% of the time.
Nibby
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11/01/2018 at 10:27 |
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yasss
i only buy laptops with nipples
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
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11/01/2018 at 10:31 |
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I think the manual transmission is actually just using tab keys and space bar/shift keys, though.
WilliamsSW
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11/01/2018 at 10:33 |
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More like the manual drum brakes of laptops.
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
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11/01/2018 at 10:34 |
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What’s a trackball, in this extended metaphor?
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> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
11/01/2018 at 10:35 |
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The Cord’s preselector. .. maybe.
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> Ash78, voting early and often
11/01/2018 at 10:36 |
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Still hoping some day they would start offering trackpad-less bezels again.
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WilliamsSW
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
11/01/2018 at 10:42 |
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All sync r omesh . The track pointer is non-syncro.
kanadanmajava1
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11/01/2018 at 10:48 |
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Some of 90's HP Omnibooks had a weird mouse thingy. The t i n y mouse thingy is normally hiding in the laptop but it pops out by pressing the mouse release button. It’s permanently attached to the laptop with a lever that senses the movement by sliding and turning. The lever is a bit flimsy but you can operate it without any flat surface.
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Patrick Nichols
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11/01/2018 at 10:56 |
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I’d say the command line is the manual transmission of computers with the cursor controllers being more like the accessory controllers. A mouse would be analog nobs (still the most prefferable). The trackpad could be touch screen interfaces. And the trackpoint would be the only occasionally helpful steering wheel controls, because yeah its great for some things like controlling the radio or cruise control, but faux paddle shifters on some CVTs and the stupid fucking voice command buttons on the bottom of my girlfriends CR-V steering wheel that always hit my knee by accident are useless. God, I hate her car... where were we again ?
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Patrick Nichols
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
11/01/2018 at 10:57 |
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The stupid idrive (and similar) selectors for the infotainment.
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> Patrick Nichols
11/01/2018 at 11:05 |
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command line
Which I also prefer to use...
TheTurbochargedSquirrel
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11/01/2018 at 11:09 |
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What are keyboard shortcuts then? Clutchl ess shifting? The Model T's wacky gearbox?
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Nibby
> kanadanmajava1
11/01/2018 at 11:15 |
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I must inquire, what else do you have in your old collection?
tromoly
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11/01/2018 at 11:17 |
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They are accurate, but a pain to use and better input
methods have been developed?
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> Ash78, voting early and often
11/01/2018 at 11:17 |
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So, I do logo design on the side (not as much as I’d like in recent months) . I’ve used a Macbook Pro + Illustrator for this for 10+ years. In the past, I thought that I was giving up control/precision by just using the laptop’s controls for this , but a few years back, I bought a nice external mouse specifically to use for my design work , and realized that I much prefer just using the MBP’s (admittedly great) trackpad over a mouse. Who’dve thunk it?
t0ast
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11/01/2018 at 11:18 |
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Truth. I’ve lost count of the number of confused, annoyed, and weirded-out coworkers ever since I started disabling the (not just inferior but low quality by normal pad standards
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11/01/2018 at 11:18 |
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Hell yes, I love the looks my old t420 gets when people see me using it. Little d o they know what a perfect machine it is
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> tromoly
11/01/2018 at 11:20 |
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I don’t find it so, I dread having to use the trackpad, even with the gestures and whatever.
CB
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11/01/2018 at 11:23 |
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It's odd, but I sometimes use it.
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> CB
11/01/2018 at 11:26 |
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It’s great when you are typing and using the mouse. Hand never leaves the home row.
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Patrick Nichols
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11/01/2018 at 11:35 |
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I hear you there, but just like ATs, the GUI has it’s place. Newbies have less of a chance of fucking up your machine or being less productive (grinding gears and stalling) and then there are the times where it is just more convenient (like sitting in traffic).
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Patrick Nichols
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 11:39 |
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Same and I actually got an external logitech BT trackpad for when its docked to a second screen which was surprisingly adequate . The trackpad on my new surface book also is very nice. Thankfully Windows machines have started to move to more gestural actions rather than the stupid scroll bars on the side and bottom of the pad with separate buttons for clicking.
winterlegacy, here 'till the end
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11/01/2018 at 11:40 |
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The trackpoint on my Latitude E6510 is nice, but it tends to lose its mind if the laptop gets bumped for whatever reason, so I end up just turning it off.
It seems to be a constant.
Textured Soy Protein
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11/01/2018 at 11:50 |
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Whenever I’ve tried a trackpoin t I’ve hated it, because it’s dog shit.
Track BALL or GTFO.
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kanadanmajava1
> Nibby
11/01/2018 at 12:06 |
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Quite a lot.
Vintage Silicon Graphics workstations are the main focus of my collection but I haven’t found any of those in couple of years.
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sn4cktimes
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11/01/2018 at 12:23 |
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Can’t say I use the actual terminal/command line anymore. But while using OSX I often use the quick search “ command-space” to just type the program I need vs using the trackpad. It baffles my wife but I do it automatically. I only ever have to type the first 2 or 3 letters and hit enter. I only use the trackpad for web surfing. Pretty much keyboard for as much as possible.
Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
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11/01/2018 at 12:26 |
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Nope. It’s terrible. The first thing I did was disable it.
Tripper
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11/01/2018 at 12:41 |
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Also a fan, our D ells have them. However the Mac track pads are still king when a mouse is not available.
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Nibby
> kanadanmajava1
11/01/2018 at 13:02 |
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looks like medical imaging equipment
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> Tripper
11/01/2018 at 13:23 |
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Eck... Dell, HP and Toshiba ones are meh. I hated the one on my old Satellite.
IIRC IBM TrackPoint has patents on the pressure detection so they are much better.
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> Textured Soy Protein
11/01/2018 at 13:24 |
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Pointing sticks are shit. TrackPoint(tm) is great.
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> sn4cktimes
11/01/2018 at 13:24 |
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Well the search bar is a close second, but Microsoft has been screwy about that lately.
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> winterlegacy, here 'till the end
11/01/2018 at 13:43 |
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Latitude E6510
That’s the problem right there. ThinkPad trackpoints are different animals.
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> Nibby
11/01/2018 at 14:07 |
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DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
> 404 - User No Longer Available
11/01/2018 at 14:21 |
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I should learn how to use one, I absolutely hate track pads.
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> DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
11/01/2018 at 14:38 |
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Not hard at all, Index finger on the stick, use the thumb to tap the buttons. Hold middle and push on stick for scrolling.
Don’t be this moron . He’s using it wrong.
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Nibby
> kanadanmajava1
11/01/2018 at 15:11 |
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holy crap, how’d you acquire that PowerSeries? How do you have space for this stuff?
one of my IRC buddies has an NCR System 3450 which can be optioned with 4x486 processors! I never really strayed away from x86 systems so most of my older rigs ranged from 486-Pentium III rigs.
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kanadanmajava1
> Nibby
11/01/2018 at 16:14 |
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I bought some (including the one of the PowerSeries) from the factory when I was a summer employee there. The other I found when my university was cleaning their corners and had thrown it away. Both are parked in my parents house disguised as “design objects”...
The factory had a still working PowerSeries machine at that point. It had the working power supply from the machine that I bought. They couldn’t retire that machine as it was running a license server for their welding line robots. It was pretty stupid idea to use such obscure machine to run the license server. I think they retired it after the Saab assembly line was disassembled after 2003 but unfortunately no-one contact me about the machine’s retirement plan.
My parents also have a small swimming pool that has been disabled and permanently covered. It’s a good place for a secret computer museum.
Some problem with vintage multiprocessor PCs is that most Microsoft OS’s don’t know how to use the processors. What OS does that NCR thing have?
I once saw mid 80's workstation that had 6x 286 processors. I was really temp ted to buy it but it was huge (maybe made by Digital ) and my parents didn’t then have a large house. It was using some weird OS but I cannot remember what it was.
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DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
> 404 - User No Longer Available
11/01/2018 at 17:19 |
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rom the same site that had to take down their video on how to build a desktop lol.
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> DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
11/01/2018 at 18:00 |
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Not just same site, same guy .