Truck Question 

"Carbon Fiber Sasquatch" (turbopumpkin) 01/18/2018 at 23:54 • Filed to: None

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I’m leaning towards a midsize truck for my next vehicle and unfortunately can’t wait for the Ranger. Which should I get? The Chevy Colorado / GMC Canyon or Toyota Tacoma?

The Chevy/GMC is cheaper (better deals can be found) than the Toyota by a few grand but is it worth it to just get the Tacoma? I plan on keeping this for at least a decade (my current car is 12 years old).

Crew cab, V6 and 4x4 for both and I don’t plan on towing at all but doing almost every thing else.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:00

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AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:00

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Tacoma

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:00

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I like the look of the Tacoma the most, but was really disappointed by the feel of the interior (sat in a TRD 4x4). Really I would have to try all three.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/19/2018 at 00:09

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My vanity plate would be Burrito or Nchlada if I got a Tacoma

Nothing > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:10

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Even a 10 yr old Taco will retain at least 50% of its value. I also trust them to stay together better over the long haul. I like my ‘15. Never been in a third gen.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:11

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CHALUPA

Tristan > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:12

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Tacoma. Seriously, even if you like it the least, the damn things just don’t depreciate!

HammerheadFistpunch > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:13

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The one you like. Seriously drive em both and find out which you like more. Of road is take the taco Everytime but otherwise I’d say it’s your preference.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:15

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Now I know this is out of the question, but I’ll go for it anyway:

2011 Ranger.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/19/2018 at 00:16

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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 01/19/2018 at 00:17

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No crew cab or the answer would be yes!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:23

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Jzizzle > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:31

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Based only on performance, tech, cabin space and fuel economy I would say Chevy has every advantage.

Tapas > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 00:46

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Taquito

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 01:06

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Hilux

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 01:51

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Given the choice....the best way to tell them apart is to sit in the back for 15 minutes. Whichever experience is the most pleasant... that’s the one to buy.

If you don’t care about the back seat passengers then reconsider your choice of vehicle!!!

Patrick Nichols > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 02:06

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The only downside of tacomas is that you have to go to the aftermarket for interior accessories (leather, heated seats, car play, etc.). But the upside is that there are tons of options and you’ll likely see 2/3's of the value back in 10 years if you keep it under 120-150k miles and get a v6 4x4

Forrest > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 02:15

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Ridgeline

adamftw > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 06:32

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The Colorado drives, feels, and does everything as a car better than the Tacoma will ever do. Over that amount of time they will both be fine and reliable. Pick what you like. Buying a car because of resale value is silly.

shop-teacher > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 07:02

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Buy whichever one you like better. They are both great trucks. I drive a 12-year old GMC Sierra that I bought new. It has been rock solid reliable, and it’s still worth roughly 40% of what I paid for it.

shop-teacher > HammerheadFistpunch 01/19/2018 at 07:02

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This is the correct answer.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 07:06

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I drive both almost daily for work.

The Tacoma holds value a hell of a lot better. Probably a bit more capable off road too.

But, the Canyon/Colorado at least to me feel like such better daily drivers. They’re just more comfortable and refined.

The taco will probably hold up better in the long haul though.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/19/2018 at 07:50

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Badge on front fender indicates correctness.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 07:52

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OPPOsaurus WRX > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 07:58

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I read the title as trick question and i’m sitting here like ‘where’s the trick.....ohhh.”

wait for the new ranger!!!!

Spanfeller is a twat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/19/2018 at 08:44

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That’s not a taco, thats an abomination.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 09:02

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As a long-time owner of a ‘94 B-3000 (Ranger), I was planning to replace it with a Tacoma. Then I drove one. It was like driving a mobile cave. It felt dark and cramped inside, even with the double cab. I felt insulated from the road and not in a good way. It was, in one word, terrible.

So I bought a WRX.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 09:08

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I crossed shopped the latest Taco and Canyon a couple years ago. Next month will be 2 years with a current gen. I wound up with the Taco for a couple reasons:

1: Resale

2: No depreciation, see #1

3: Standard lumber support

4: Manual

The Taco doesn’t ride as well as the Canyon. I didn’t test drive the Colorado, not a fan of the looks. In order to get a crew cab, 4x4 and lumbar support, minimum point of entry for a Canyon was a couple thousand over the Taco. This was a deal breaker for me. The Canyon seats hurt my back after ten minutes - this was without the lumber support. Prices are close enough to not warrant consideration if you keep the vehicle more than 10 years. The 3.6 felt like it had more torque down low. You have to wind out the 3.5 in the Taco to make power. Cam comes on at about 3200 rpm.

If the Taco didn’t come in a manual, I’d be in a Canyon. I would have figured out where to come up with the extra 4(?)K difference in cost.

MPG is comparable. I got a 2016 just over dealer invoice when they were less than a year old. I paid 32K IIRC. It’s good to never be upside down on a vehicle.

TL:DR

Ride quality/resale are the biggest difference. Don’t buy a 1/2 y.o. Taco. Some dealer were asking more for a used Taco than I paid for a new Taco.

Nonster > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 09:26

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I test drove both when I was shopping last year and in my opinion the Colorado drives soooooo much nicer than the Taco. It’s personal opinion, but I also find the current facelift of the Tacoma to be absolutely hideous.

But yeah take both for a test drive and buy the one you like, they’re both great trucks

loki03xlh > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 09:52

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After getting 20+ years and 300,000+ miles out of my S10, I’m sticking with the General. I don’t care about resale value. I keep vehicles too long for that to really matter. If/when this truck dies, I’m getting a Canyorado.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Spanfeller is a twat 01/19/2018 at 10:27

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Welcome to America/Canada

gawdzillla > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 10:51

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i’ll take an older silverado over both if you dont “need” a brand new truck

Spanfeller is a twat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/19/2018 at 10:55

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How would you react if they did something like that to poutine?

Idiot In The Garage Needs A New CGI Job... > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 11:27

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As the recent purchaser of a 2015 Colorado Crew Cab, V6, that’s what I’d recommend.

HammerheadFistpunch > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 01/19/2018 at 11:39

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thats when I knew I would never buy a KL cherokee. Its not that I care overly much about the rear seat passengers (they have their own car seats anyway) but you could SEE where the money stopped in that car and it turned me off when I realized that the niceness of the car was obviously a show for the driver and please don’t look behind the curtain!

TACO DRIVER > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 11:45

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2012 TACO ODO:213000

Still runs like it did from the lot. Shiprock, BlackRock, Death Valley, Sierra -Nev, Cascades, Nw beaches, easten wa sand dunes and desert trails....still runs new.Descent control is a feature I love.

I’ve changed the oil at regular intervals with full synthetic purple since first change. Replaced front and rear brakes 2x. Regular maintenance as scheduled. Blower fan (mine runs 16 hrs a day...no BS @1500 DAYS)Front and rear shocks 1x. 5 sets of tires.5 tune ups....this model changes smaller intervals.Still have original serpentine belt.

MODS: 1in front lift( upside down collar) rear air bags to fix that Tacoma saggy butt. Armor lid, huge roof rack, light bar up front, forward and rear facing lights, strobe kit, additional inverter 1000...stock one is only 400 but thats good for most users. Bed lined tail gate and fenders. HID lights.(4 pair at 80$ each in 1.5 years for the XD)250$ fixed that pit!

I drive with 2 passengers always and our gear weighs about 700 accumulated.I log 5000 miles monthly in all kinds of conditions...never once broke down.

YOU CANT DO WHAT I HAVE DONE HERE IN AN AMERICAN TRUCK...AND ITS EMBARRASSING. RUNS LIKE NEW!!!!! I have the opourtunity to see ALL publicly offered trucks in America in their first 150k.....theres a lot with issues.

TACOMA ISSUES: Tailgate has either backup cam or a lock...not both. Gas mileage with full cap load for the last 5 yrs..avg is 16mpg. Headlights dont last if you drive a lot....and the driver side fog light always bursts the filament..so its getting HID low fogs sometime soon.

ANYWAY...thats my experience... and everybody that I’ve talked to you is similar class of truck has agreed and even the guys I’ve talked to hit on the Colorado have expressed to me they know it’s not going to last as long as my Toyota they can already tell.

TACO DRIVER > TACO DRIVER 01/19/2018 at 11:46

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SORRY 2012 TACO/TRD/DC V6

jkm7680 > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 12:06

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I’d go with a 2nd gen Tacoma if I were you. I’ve got a 2014 and I love it. The 2016+ aren’t quite proven and they’re still working out kinks with them.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 12:07

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With the time you’re keeping it, it doesn’t matter that much, but the Tacoma will have way more residual value even after that long.

The downside to the current Tacoma is that I keep hearing that they have been having serious failures almost right off the lot.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 01/19/2018 at 12:10

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I usually call them “Gringo Tacos” or when I’m really frustrated, I call them “Gabacho Tacos” or “Pinche gabacho tacos”. They’re not even real tacos dorados.

Spanfeller is a twat > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/19/2018 at 12:12

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Yeah, tacos aren’t meant to be deepfried unless it contains chicken!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Spanfeller is a twat 01/19/2018 at 12:26

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I’m in the West, so not too close to the poutine centre of things. Out here I would say our delicacy is.. I dunno, smoked salmon?

To be honest, poutine and tacos are kinda like pizza. There is a set of ground rules, but toppings and things can be as crazy as you want.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 01/19/2018 at 13:04

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I’m trying to visualize how you’d do this to poutine without making it even more delicious. Thinking frites topped with queso fresco and enchilada sauce.

Although if the people of the US did it, they’d be McDs style fries or tater tots topped with fake american “cheese” topped and condensed cream of something soup.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > gawdzillla 01/19/2018 at 13:19

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Full size truck is a no go as they are too big for my neighborhood. Looking at used Tacos and Colorados as well but neither depreciate very much lol

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/19/2018 at 14:00

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An older used full-size would be similar in size to a new mid-size.

Spanfeller is a twat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/19/2018 at 16:52

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You wouldn’t make a pizza with deep-fried bread, would you?

The thing is that, at least here in Mexico City, we don´t take tacos with that many condiments, certainly not with tomato cubes.

Beyond the fried tortilla, which should disqualify it already, tacos aren´t made with ground beef. No. Never.

I think that if we go back to Pizza it gave me an idea: just do the cultural appropriation alright! But call it San Bernadino style tacos or SB Tacos or Californian Tacos in the same manner that deep dish pizza is also called Chicago style pizza. That way you can chose to have that...thing or a real taco when you go to a restaurant.

Spanfeller is a twat > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/19/2018 at 16:57

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hmm... if you really like poutine you should try to get Huevos Rotos. Its a Spanish recipe, its a bed of French fries topped with Jamon Serrano and a couple of eggs done over easy.

Called “Rotos” because you’re supposed to break the yolk before eating them so that it reaches the fries.

trust me, its good. I just suck at describing it.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Spanfeller is a twat 01/19/2018 at 17:13

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pizza with deep-fried bread, would you?

I totally would if I could.

Spanfeller is a twat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/19/2018 at 17:19

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well, make it.

Call it Fort Langley pizza

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 01/19/2018 at 17:49

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The Glaswegians deep fry frozen pizzas.

I wish I was joking.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/19/2018 at 17:55

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In Los Angeles they sell Korean short rib tacos. It work’s great, but that’s because you can put just about any decent non-ground grilled meat in a taco.

HammerheadFistpunch > HammerheadFistpunch 01/19/2018 at 22:39

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To clarify. I care a grear deal about my rear seat passengers, just not their luxury accoutrements

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 01/20/2018 at 02:12

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It’s not the height, it’s the width. Full size trucks are similar in width throughout the last twenty years

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Spanfeller is a twat 01/20/2018 at 02:16

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Pizza with deep fried bread is essentially a pizza hut pan pizza lol. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, but it exists

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > adamftw 01/20/2018 at 02:19

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Oh yeah, keeping it for at least ten years will make resale values silly. I just know that the Toyota will likely keep together the best but GM is pretty good about long lasting vehicles especially trucks so is the Toyota premium worth it? I’m not so sure.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > loki03xlh 01/20/2018 at 02:22

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Yeah my dad and my father in law swear by the General and I can’t blame them on the truck side. I just question if it’s worth it for the Toyota premium over the Chevy

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Forrest 01/20/2018 at 02:24

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Not an option, the wife hates them. She thinks they are ugly and too much like the Pilot and Odyssey.  

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 01/20/2018 at 02:25

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I would if I could lol

Forrest > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/20/2018 at 11:58

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That’s a fair criticism.

Has she sat in a Ridgeline before?Because of the unibody, the interior is noticeably bigger than a Tacoma. And, on the higher trim levels, the Ridgeline feels a lot more luxurious than a Tacoma.

The Tacoma and Colorado definitely look tougher and more trucklike. But, the Ridgeline is a nicer place to be.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/21/2018 at 20:22

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I like them! What kind of reliability are the first gen Colorado‘s? Anything to avoid? I doubt that i’ll be able to find a V8, are the I5 any good?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/21/2018 at 20:43

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Smallbear has the V8 crew cab and seems to love it, I’ve heard the I5's are pretty good. I bet you could save a ton by not buying a Tacoma...

loki03xlh > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 01/22/2018 at 09:45

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I think it comes down to one thing: How long are you going to keep your truck?

If you are going to keep it for 2-5 years and are worried about resale value, get the Taco. You will probably recoup the initial price premium and then some. If you are going to drive it until the wheels fall off, put the wheels back on and drive it another 100,000 miles, stick with the General.