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"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse) 01/02/2018 at 17:49 • Filed to: Renault 21

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Seen by your correspondent last summer. Claim to fame? The only Renault designed by Giugiaro that I know of except for the unremarkable 19. Originally a four door, but buyers said “non, merci” and they had to do this slightly awkward looking hatch.

They’re still everywhere in France.

RT > Cé hé sin 01/02/2018 at 18:03

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Giugiaro did the 19 too, so now there’s no claim to fame for the 21.

Well, apart from the whole AMC rebadging and overlooked 4x4 Turbo version.

In the UK, the 21 is near extinct though, I never knew they still show up in France.

Cé hé sin > RT 01/02/2018 at 18:14

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Seems to have wasted his time on the dreary looking 19!

France is full of 21s, they’re absolutely everywhere. Also, the Peugeot 205. The 205 was preceded by the 104 and I saw a brace of them too. Like this one, door rusting away but still going.

An Uno too and I haven’t seen one of those in years.

dogisbadob > Cé hé sin 01/02/2018 at 18:25

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oooo an AMC Medallion :p

duurtlang > Cé hé sin 01/04/2018 at 02:07

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You don’t see 205s anymore in Ireland? In the Netherlands I see them daily, multiple a day really. In Germany, not so much as it’s not a german car and it was actually discontinued a few years before the introduction of the 206. Unlike in the NL.

Cé hé sin > duurtlang 01/04/2018 at 09:58

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The 205 has completely vanished along with its contemporaries so no Unos, almost no Fiestas of that vintage and so on.

We don’t do old cars because rust, difficulty in getting insurance and worth nothing. Having so said my car is 1994!

duurtlang > Cé hé sin 01/04/2018 at 10:30

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They’reworth nothing here either and we do salt roads. Still, 205s are not uncommon. The Uno though, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen one of those. They were, if I’m not mistaken, both much more rust prone and also much less reliable than the 205.

I don’t get the insurance part. With an old low powered car like that I’d pay next to nothing in insurance. Maybe €15 a month, at most. Less if you’d insure one as a classic. I paid €5 a month for insurance for my 205 gti... Excluding the classic car insurance, are older cars hard to insure in Ireland?

Cé hé sin > duurtlang 01/04/2018 at 12:26

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It’s difficult to get a new policy for a car more than 15 years old. You can keep getting your existing policy renewed which is what I’ve been doing.

duurtlang > Cé hé sin 01/04/2018 at 12:45

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Weird. I just go to a comparison website, enter my details and I get dozens of suggestions. For 15+ year old cars. Never had an issue. Any idea why Irish insurers don’t want the business of 15+ year old cars?

Cé hé sin > duurtlang 01/04/2018 at 14:36

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Here we go.

duurtlang > Cé hé sin 01/04/2018 at 15:51

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Sounds like a cartel.