Cars that I want that aren't BMWs: a 996 turbo

"E90M3" (e90m3) 09/16/2017 at 19:06 • Filed to: None

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I know this is the “wrong” generation of 911 and the headlights get a lot of hate, but that doesn’t matter to me, I still want one. Back around Christmas 2015 I was browsing the internet for them, and found several examples for between 40k and 50k. I was never a Porsche person, but they’ve really grown on me. If I had the finical resources, I’d have to pick one of these up.

WilliamsSW > E90M3 09/16/2017 at 19:14

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I think the turbos may be starting to creep up, now that everyone realizes the IMS issue doesn’t apply to them.

I would love one of these, too — the runny eggs are the only downside to me, and you won’t see them when you’re driving anyways —

E90M3 > WilliamsSW 09/16/2017 at 19:18

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Yeah, I looked again this past week and values had crept up. I knew they didn’t have the IMS issue. Sometimes, I wish I had my old job back so I could get something like this, in addition to the E90. I like that damn thing too much.

Klaus Schmoll > E90M3 09/16/2017 at 19:25

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I once drove a base Cayman. Yeah well, it got the same hp and less torque than a 535d, so it actually might have felt not really any faster but that chassis!!! Oh and that sound!!! That was when I understood what they are about. As much as I like BMWs, these cars just are in a different galaxy when it comes to cornering.

fintail > WilliamsSW 09/16/2017 at 19:27

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I’ve seen some crafty and thrifty mods to get away from that look:

interstate366, now In The Industry > WilliamsSW 09/16/2017 at 19:33

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They have been. A year or two ago you could find a decent one in the low 30s around here, if not even the high 20s. The base Carreras have also been creeping up lately locally. I used to see them in the low teens, but now they’re usually in the high teens.

PS9 > E90M3 09/16/2017 at 19:47

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I work three jobs at 75hrs/week and even this Porsche is a pipe dream.

...fuck this shit. I’m selling drugs now.

WilliamsSW > interstate366, now In The Industry 09/16/2017 at 20:02

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Yeah that was the time to buy a turbo. For sure.

WilliamsSW > fintail 09/16/2017 at 20:04

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Hmm, I think I like this-

interstate366, now In The Industry > Klaus Schmoll 09/16/2017 at 20:47

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Yeah, the sound of a flat 6 is utterly intoxicating.

interstate366, now In The Industry > WilliamsSW 09/16/2017 at 20:48

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Yeah. Thankfully 986 Boxster prices have stayed low. If I ever decide I really hate myself I’ll pick one up.

AC2 - The Now 15 Year Old Jalop > E90M3 09/16/2017 at 21:06

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I dont know why, but I would take an E90 M3 over a 996. I have a weird fascination with all M3's to the point where I think Im sort of cheating on Mercedes

WilliamsSW > interstate366, now In The Industry 09/16/2017 at 22:04

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Yeah they’re cheap. Do they have an IMS issue? Seems to me I’ve heard that both ways. The newer Boxsters look a lot better to me - I love the 981-

interstate366, now In The Industry > WilliamsSW 09/16/2017 at 22:20

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Yep. All the issues of the 996 (IMS, same headlights as the early 996s) with less horsepower and the engine in a harder to reach spot. I like the early 981s, before they took the glorious flat 6 sound away and replaced it with a WRX engine. I personally prefer fixed roofs, so the Cayman is my bag. If there had been a 986 Cayman i’d have one in my driveway right now.

WilliamsSW > interstate366, now In The Industry 09/16/2017 at 22:25

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Ah - I suspected that was the case with the 986.

Apparently the harder they’re driven, the *less* likely the IMS is to fail. Considering how Boxsters seem to be driven - about as hard as your average Cascada based on my observations - that scares me a bit.

Totally agree on the 981. NA flat 6, that’s what I want. I’m a convertible guy, so I won’t fight you for the Cayman.

E90M3 > PS9 09/16/2017 at 23:34

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I thought I used to work a lot.

E90M3 > AC2 - The Now 15 Year Old Jalop 09/16/2017 at 23:34

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I mean, when I had 50k to spend on a car, I bought an E90 not a 996.

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > WilliamsSW 09/17/2017 at 12:21

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IMS is $1800 with rear main seal to have done at a shop, and odds are the RMS is already leaking anyway. Get a good deal on the car, change the bearing, drive happy.

WilliamsSW > Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! 09/18/2017 at 09:33

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I thought it was more than that, but regardless, this is the right answer here. Buy it cheap, do the work, enjoy the car-

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > WilliamsSW 09/18/2017 at 10:43

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$1800 is what it cost me at one of LN Engineering’s recommended shops, including the full validation to make sure the engine is healthy.

Saracen > WilliamsSW 09/18/2017 at 19:45

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They’re creeping up, but not because of lack of IMS issues. It’s because they’re a crazy performance bargain.

Saracen > E90M3 09/18/2017 at 19:47

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I could’ve bought a Turbo, but I’m glad I bought a 997 C4S instead.

Superior aesthetics aside, my car’s 381bhp is more than enough in such a little car for the street. As it is, it’s hard enough to find enough road to enjoy it. I can’t imagine a 996T, especially since I know it wouldn’t stay stock for long..

E90M3 > Saracen 09/18/2017 at 20:02

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Never really lusted after too many Porsches, but a turbo is one of the ones I have.

Saracen > E90M3 09/18/2017 at 20:11

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I’m always lusting after Porsches. These days it’s the 991.2 GT3 Touring and the Sport Turismo.

WilliamsSW > Saracen 09/18/2017 at 21:02

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They were ridiculous bargains a few years ago - I figured it had to be either the runny eggs or IMS misinformation.

Still not expensive for what you get-

Saracen > WilliamsSW 09/18/2017 at 21:13

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IMS bearings aren’t the biggest issue with the M96/M97 engines anyway. Cylinder scoring is a far more costly failure.