Holy shit.

"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa)
09/03/2017 at 16:58 • Filed to: None

That article on the FP about loud exhausts is an absolute disaster. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

DISCUSSION (35)

WilliamsSW > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:11

What a tool. Don’t respond, leave him in the greys where he belongs.

aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:12

FP commenters are just permanently salty

fintail > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:22

FP is a disaster. Dorky hipster wikipedia-schooled “editors” and youtube commenters.

V8 exhausts are good, but I have heard enough braaap drone to last a lifetime, and small man syndrome diesel truck roar is up there too.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:26

I wasn’t expecting that many people to be heated about how loud a car’s exhaust is. Especially the ones saying *anything* louder than stock should be fined. Enthusiasts are getting to be an odd bunch.

Still putting a Borla S-Type cat-back on the Silverado tho.

Patrick Nichols > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:33

There’s a not so fine line between performance exhausts and “fuck you, I’m loud” exhausts that I’m not sure I could adequately explain to the average simpleton.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
09/03/2017 at 17:37

I’m honestly confused what such people are doing on a car enthusiast website.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Patrick Nichols
09/03/2017 at 17:38

What on earth are said simpletons doing on a car enthusiast website though?

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > fintail
09/03/2017 at 17:39

I just don’t get how that kind of people became so prevalent on a car enthusiast website.

I dig my 4cyl exhaust though.

nyoom

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:42

I can totally understand there being such thing as too loud (though my personal limit will probably make my ears bleed before I get annoyed), but a quality exhaust setup that makes it a little louder and sound a lot better aren’t a bad thing at all.

I do have a slight thing against Harley/sport bike guys who feel the need to rev their loud ass bikes at every stop sign though.

dogisbadob > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:42

Yeah, that’s why I call it the troll page :p

But to be fair, the no H-pipe isn’t the greatest setup in a V8. The H-pipe will give you more power and better sound. Do you have a clip of the Jag? ;)

And as a burner said itt, a good exhaust will sound awesome. But a cheap eBay exhaust will sound like shit with no power gains or anything.

fintail > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:44

Not braaapy, nice.

The dbags in my area keep it 2 gears too low and drive through densely populated areas, thinking someone cares.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > dogisbadob
09/03/2017 at 17:45

Yeah, I need to get around to having an H-pipe put in but... the car needs to not knock first lol.

jimz > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:47

it depends on degree. I had Flowmaster Force IIs on my Mustang GT which sounded good but weren’t really “loud” unless I got on it; which I never did within my neighborhood. I also have a Vance & Hines slip-on on my Harley, but since I still have the stock header pipes and catalytic converter it too only gets somewhat loud if I get on it. I haven’t done anything to my FZ-09 yet because there isn’t anything yet which isn’t a complete header-to-tailpipe replacement.

On the other hand, you have these 18-year-old dicknozzles who think everyone wants to hear their sick cat and muffler deletes constantly. they can go to hell. That’s not being an “enthusiast,” it’s being an asshole. Like a few months ago I was sitting at a red light, and TylerAnthonyZach McCockgobbler was in the next lane constantly revving his Gixxer because we all were begging to have our eardrums assaulted by his barely-muffled, race-only Akrapovi exhaust.

jimz > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:47

I think some people just get off on bitching.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:52

Most car “enthusiasts” are simpletons unfortunately, and I don’t think you can really call Jalopnik an enthusiast site anymore, maybe a car culture site.

Patrick Nichols > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:54

They’re usually just here to complain that politics get brought up... They hang out on Jalopnik and Giz and are the supporters of HOAs and over-extending zoning laws everywhere.

Sweet Trav > dogisbadob
09/03/2017 at 17:54

H Pipes make 0 more HP than straight pipes. dyno proven. H-pipes and X pipes do change the sound, but they are mostly auto aftermarket marketing wank.

Sweet Trav > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:56

My favorite are people who still believe that an engines “needs some backpressure” to make peak torque and horsepower.

Huh, i guess these guys know something I dont...

Kinja'd!!!

My bird IS the word > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 17:58

I’m never putting another exhaust on a DD, but on a fun car? Hell yes.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 18:02

But... but...

MAH PROPERTY VALYOOOS!

AestheticsInMotion > Sweet Trav
09/03/2017 at 18:15

Are they wrong? I had noticeably less power in my natural aspirated car when my exhaust terminated after the cat for a few months. Sounded fantastic but yeah... Not worth the lack of oomph. A quality catback fixed the problem immediately. Is that not back pressure related, or are you just talking about forced induction where the more flow, the better?

Sweet Trav > AestheticsInMotion
09/03/2017 at 19:45

Did you re-map the engine to compensate?

NYankee1927 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/03/2017 at 20:49

I hope they never hear a stock GT350, Z06 or GT3. They will shit themselves and be calling for the banning of cars.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > fintail
09/03/2017 at 22:20

It’s a Flowmaster designed specifically for 4 and 6 cylinder cars with an emphasis on not being braapy, which is why I bought it. Sounds very OEM if you didn’t know any better. One of my favorite mods.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > jimz
09/03/2017 at 22:22

Ask any of my friends. I get off on bitching, but even I find this ridiculous.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > AestheticsInMotion
09/03/2017 at 22:24

An exhaust that flows the wrong combination of freely and the wrong length will result in backpressure waves colliding wrong and actually restricting the exhaust more than a smaller, restricted exhaust.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 22:24

I made the vacant lot across the street worth like 4x as much because I keep the Jag there.

I have another burner, try to guess it! > Sweet Trav
09/04/2017 at 00:48

Yes and no. Someone on here explained it way better, but too free of an exhaust causes more back pressure because the gas moves to slowly in it.

It’s more complicated than that obviously, but your correct and it’s also correct that too free of exhaust is bad.

I have another burner, try to guess it! > slipperysallylikespenguins
09/04/2017 at 00:52

Jalopnik is to cars what Jezebel is to feminism. Which is, no one really knows, but it involves lots of clickbait and lazyposts.

I have another burner, try to guess it! > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/04/2017 at 00:55

I’ve noticed to commterait changed significantly once they started doing those buyers reviews, particularly about luxury suv/cuvs.

Went from people who were mechanically knowledgeable about cars to dash humpers.

Sweet Trav > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/04/2017 at 08:41

Jake, this applies mostly to the first 18 inches of pipe after the collector, which is based on the scavenging effect, which is all about exhaust velocity. Beyond that, it really doesn’t matter how big the pipe is or if there is no pipe at all. Most factory exhaust manifolds are going to put more than enough necessary back pressure into the system. It’s extremely rare, that any factory exhaust loses power with the removal of restriction aft of the downpipe so long as the ECU or carb is retuned to handle it. Even on a 427 big block Chevy you will lose 0 torque and horsepower going from 1 3/4 inch primary tubes to 2 1/4 inch primary tubes, so long as you use a collector extension. The concept that you need backpressure in any appreciable amount to make power is auto magazine marketing wank. As shown by every dyno test I have ever seen.

fintail > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
09/04/2017 at 13:48

That’s the way to do it. Your car doesn’t appear to be offensive or flamboyant.

When I had a W210 E55 AMG as my DD, I removed the resonator and installed an x-pipe, which made it a little louder at cold start,and maybe a minor drone at speed. It felt better that way, to me. Otherwise, I haven’t owned a car with exhaust mods, although as I get older, my cars become more grandfatherly, and don’t need it.

I live on a hill, which might make me more sensitive to the exhaust bros. I can live the rest of my life with never hearing another modified WRX, Evo, clapped out Miata or S2K, M3 etc and be happy.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > My bird IS the word
09/05/2017 at 10:10

But my DD is my fun car...

My bird IS the word > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
09/06/2017 at 12:06

No exhaust then. When I’m sneaking through the burbs at 2am or doing a road trip with friends I really regret my decisions.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > My bird IS the word
09/06/2017 at 13:40

Haha - mine’s not that loud once it’s warm, and the drone is manageable, too. I do second-guess myself every once in a while, though.