Bigly hot take

"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
09/03/2017 at 10:53 • Filed to: Heathen! Heretic! Jalapeno!

I do not hate the new civic hatch. This one, especially.

DISCUSSION (42)

TheBlacktopExperiment > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:04

No thanks. It’s an appliance to me. Lacks the character, styling, and patina I like in my cars.

Chariotoflove > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:07

It’s not bad. Not sure about the blacked out wheels.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > TheBlacktopExperiment
09/03/2017 at 11:08

But don’t you own a...

Kinja'd!!!

TheBlacktopExperiment > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:10

Kinja'd!!!

It’s still less appliance-like. And the design is more classical, in the 2000s sense, and not random cuts and lines all over. I also have a vehicle that is more stylish than any new Honda or Toyota in existence.

Kiltedpadre > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:17

I actually like the look of the hatch. I don’t care for the black wheels in the picture though.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > TheBlacktopExperiment
09/03/2017 at 11:20

I don’t see how you can elevate your mass produced car over another. Is there anything you use your Avenger for that a Civic, Elantra, or Malibu owner doesn’t use theirs for? Do you go to work, get groceries, and so on? If a civic owner felt the same way about his car as you do about your Avenger, then what’s the problem?

fhrblig > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:24

The hatch is the least objectionable. The fact that the coupe is not a liftback fills me with rage.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fhrblig
09/03/2017 at 11:27

Agreed. Also, I’m using “least objectionable” when someone asks what the best local Mexican restaurant is around here.

TheBlacktopExperiment > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:27

Civic owners do feel the same way. Everyone, especially Honda and Toyota owners, hate my car for reasoning I cannot quite comprehend (I think it relates to the fact base models are sometimes rental cars). I mean, they do about the same job roughly speaking (Avenger has more head room and trunk room I think, but don’t know for sure. Civic is faster). But the Avenger look is my flavour. And with the civic, there has been some backlash with car enthusiasts that prefer older vehicles. The new civic is just too mixed up, aesthetically. It’s design is random, a little chaotic, and very out of the box.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:28

The regular hatch has grown on me. Especially in white, grey, blue, and black. I also love the Type R.

DipodomysDeserti > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:29

Some cars look really good in white. This is one of them.

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:31

Did you get rid of the Tercel yet?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Chariotoflove
09/03/2017 at 11:33

It’s the lighting, somewhat. These were the wheels.

Kinja'd!!!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > TheHondaBro
09/03/2017 at 11:35

Nope, I’ve had more no-shows than my Middle School dating life. Too bad, it’s destined for the yard now.

fhrblig > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:36

That reminds me of a comedian talking about someone in a small town telling him about their new Italian restaurant. “Well, it’s no Olive Garden.”

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:37

I’m reconsidering. If my father will let it sit in his garage, then I may want to take it off your hands.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:38

I quite like them. Don’t see what all the fuss is about.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > TheHondaBro
09/03/2017 at 11:43

It would be free, but it would be a commitment. Even if a new distributor fixed it, there’s everything else you already know is KWERKY about it. That said, I did drive it everyday for a few months... But it will be a total ride of purgatory compared to your Accord.

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:46

Do you own stock in a company that makes black plastic trim?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fintail
09/03/2017 at 11:47

I don’t own much beyond my 1 bedroom house and dog.

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:49

I was thinking D15B8 swap then the suspension work that it needs.

Chariotoflove > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 11:51

Better.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
09/03/2017 at 11:53

Things with an H badge get much more scrutiny around these parts than competitors.

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > TheBlacktopExperiment
09/03/2017 at 12:02

You can’t comprehend why people hate it? It’s probably because the avenger was one of the worst cars in it’s segment and the people who hated it probably drove one as a rental car. The civic and avenger are one in the same when it comes to what it’s being used for. Especially if you go back to the 8th gen civic which existed when your avenger did. There is no way you can call a civic an appliance and not a avenger, especially when an 8th gen civic would be better in everyway. Build quality, comfort, power.... All these things aren’t discriptions of avengers. Though I guess if you think the avenger is more interesting ect. To the civic it’s not up to anyone of us to change your opinion.

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 12:02

And the IS!

TheBlacktopExperiment > 2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered
09/03/2017 at 12:12

I’ve heard that mostly from automotive publishers, but the problem with that is, they don’t test the cars for a long period. They just hop in it, drive it for an hour, and base their opinion off what specifications it has and if its a Honda or Toyota, or something else. If its a Honda, even if its crap, they will rate it high. I was told I would have a laundry list of issues on my Avenger due to very poor reliability. Now a 4 and a half year old car, I have had zero issues with it. I’ve done just oil changes, changed the wipers and air filters, topped up one fluid once, and that’s about it. My friends Mini cooper is almost a year newer and has had way more problems, and about the same mileage. And that car cost over $10,000 more new. So maybe I just lucked out and got a reliable one, but I don’t regret not choosing a 2013 civic.

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 12:13

What about your cats?!

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > TheBlacktopExperiment
09/03/2017 at 12:25

I still don’t see how an avenger isn’t an appliance? And yes publications only drive the car for a week or two but that doesn’t make up for things you can see in those two weeks, uninspiring lackluster interiors and the limp engine is probably why it was never rated high. Have you thought that maybe Hondas and Toyotas get good reviews because they are good cars rather than saying all publications are biased against the dodge avenger? To me it seems like the whole claim that a Civic and a avenger aren’t both appliances seems to go against what most people buy them for. I still dont see how your avenger is any less an appliance over an 8th gen civic, or literally any other car in it’s class.

Khalbali > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 12:30

I don’t either, but I really wish it came in Si trim.

TheHondaBro > TheBlacktopExperiment
09/03/2017 at 12:34

If its a Honda, even if its crap, they will rate it high.

I would rather have my Accord with its busted transmission than an Avenger.

sony1492 > TheHondaBro
09/03/2017 at 12:35

How is that possible? Does it readily mount to the transmission or something

TheHondaBro > sony1492
09/03/2017 at 12:36

I could probably find a way. The D-series is basically Honda’s answer to the 3A.

AC2 - The Now 15 Year Old Jalop > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 12:42

This is exactly the spec and color my dad is buying his hatch sport in

garagemonkee > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 12:49

La Hacienda > El Paraiso > La Palmera

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > TheHondaBro
09/03/2017 at 13:08

I don’t own cats; they own me.

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 13:12

But do they own doggo?

I have another burner, try to guess it! > TheHondaBro
09/03/2017 at 13:17

B7???

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 14:40

I think it looks good in white. All the styling details need a basic color to balance it out

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > interstate366, now In The Industry
09/03/2017 at 14:46

Shame they seem like a solid car and at least they stand out. Lower spec Focus are decent cars but they don’t exactly stand out. I think from the front the Civic is quite good looking and the rear isnt as bad as most make out.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
09/03/2017 at 15:37

I still don’t like the sedan (in either regular or Si trim) or the regular coupe, but the hatch and the Si coupe have grown on me and I quite enjoy seeing them now.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > interstate366, now In The Industry
09/03/2017 at 15:42

I only see the hatch around here and have grown to quite like it. If I was in the market for a hatchback it’d be on my list for sure.

wafflesnfalafel > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
09/03/2017 at 19:58

agree - hatch much better than sedan