Dream Garage: Alternative Energy Edition

"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr) 08/22/2017 at 19:30 • Filed to: dream garage, alternative fuels, alternative energy, electric vehicles, hydrogen, coal, natural gas, ethanol

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That electric plug does not look anything like an actual charging plug that I’ve ever seen...

I thought I’d try something a little different here.

The rules are simple. I’m looking for:

Three motor vehicles

Designed to run on an energy source that is over 50% of something that isn’t gasoline or diesel, from the factory

Each using a different energy source

Note that some fossil fuels are OK - natural gas and coal are quite fine, for example. For other liquid fuels, E85 or E100 flex-fuel vehicles are OK, but something that takes B20 biodiesel is not. (And unless you’ve got an Elsbett engine, nothing’s designed to take WVO.) And, of course, hydrogen and electric vehicles are OK for this.

Oh, and if you pick a plug-in hybrid, I’ll allow it, but it counts as a plug-in electric car, so no picking another battery electric vehicle.

CaptDale - is secretly British > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:36

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Propane:

CNG:

Electric:

bhtooefr > CaptDale - is secretly British 08/22/2017 at 19:37

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The Sorento isn’t a factory propane system, is it?

CaptDale - is secretly British > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:42

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No, just enjoying making fun of alt fuels

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:42

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I’ll have a ‘40s style belly tank racer modified to fit a CNG bladder, because it’s already sort of built as a pressure vessel and WE DIE LIKE MEN

I’ll have a 1910 Stanley Steamer because why the fuck not:

And a Cadillac ELR - not because it’s really that great, but because it *is* more premiumer than a Volt. Plus, it will be ripe for customizing insanely.

JR1 > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:46

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Model S convertible conversion

Flex Fuel Escalade ESV

http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1015623_escalade-goes-flexfuel-should-you-care

1909 White Model M used by the president.

JR1 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/22/2017 at 19:48

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Glad I wasn’t the only one that put a steam car on the list

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:48

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Flex fuel escalade

Electric 308 with the manual

Stanley steamer

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > JR1 08/22/2017 at 19:50

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Nice mix, and you’re a little better equipped for hauling things than me. On the other hand, I bet a belly tank racer is more thrilling/terrifying in the “sports” slot than the Model S.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:50

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- Tesla Model X to haul the family around
- A methanol powered 4-stroke go-cart to commute in for summer
- A canola oil powered Hilux for hauling other junk/commuting in winter.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:51

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I’ll take a new-ish Silverado and put e85 in it because factory flex fuel.

A CNG Civic

And I guess a P1. Because it has an electric range.

JR1 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/22/2017 at 19:53

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I was unaware the belly tank racers ever used anything other than gasoline

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 19:55

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Plug-in Hybrid/Electric: Ferrari the Ferrari

Flex Fuel: 2017 Bentley Continental GT Speed

Hydrogen: NASA Space Shuttle

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > JR1 08/22/2017 at 19:56

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I was stipulating that since it was already a pressure vessel adapting it to CNG would be easy, but it’s sort of a cheaty answer.

Kiltedpadre > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 20:07

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Luxury cruiser: Doble steam car

Sports car: Porsche hybrid (yeah yeah not much of a sports car but I don’t care!)

Just because I need something as a DD CNG SUV:

bhtooefr > JR1 08/22/2017 at 20:10

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Hold up one second.

The White Model M was designed to use only gasoline, per this document . Try a different steam car? Otherwise, I like it.

bhtooefr > BaconSandwich is tasty. 08/22/2017 at 20:12

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I did say “from the factory” for a reason. The Hilux is denied, and were there any go-carts that used methanol from the factory? (I did say motor vehicle, street legality (or even being a ground vehicle) isn’t required. For instance, someone used a motherfucking space shuttle.)

bhtooefr > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/22/2017 at 20:16

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Sorry, the belly tank racer isn’t factory.

I think I’ll allow the Stanley Steamer, as it appears that a 1910 runs on kerosene (diesel #1), not what’s commonly known as diesel fuel, diesel #2. And, the ELR of course qualifies.

bhtooefr > Kiltedpadre 08/22/2017 at 20:20

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And the Porsche was a plug-in, too. The Doble steamers were apparently designed to use kerosene, but I did decide that that’s OK, because I didn’t explicitly exclude it in the OP.

bhtooefr > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 08/22/2017 at 20:21

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The 308's not factory, pick something else.

interstate366, now In The Industry > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 20:24

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FCX Clarity, Stanley Steamer, NSX.

ranwhenparked > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 20:31

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Doble (steam counts, if you burn something other than gasoline, like kerosene)

Propane Checker Marathon

Model S

JR1 > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 20:32

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That’s really odd because this Hagerty article says the opposite:

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2016/07/27/seal-of-approval

bhtooefr > JR1 08/22/2017 at 20:35

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I’m not seeing where that article actually mentions the fuel type. It might have worked on other fuels, though...

I have another burner, try to guess it! > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 20:43

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W123 modified to run on veggie oil (not factory, but what you gonna do? Send me to football jail :)

Current gen bolt

CNG land cruiser. I’m just gonna assume those exist.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 21:03

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Ford Falcon LPG wagon 2010

Hino 300 Hybrid

Tesla Model S

bhtooefr > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 21:04

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OK, here we go for my own entries. Let’s just go batshit insane from the start, and go batshit all the way through.

SHTF mobile: Beetle with wood gas generator (wood fuel) - as far as I can tell, this was actually factory:

Two wheels good: 1896 Roper Steam Cycle replica (coal fuel) - notable not only for being batshit insane, but being the motorcycle design on which the first motorcycle fatality occurred (heart attack at an alleged 60 mph) - charcoal is used in the video, but it was designed for coal:

Something that’s actually relatively reasonable on the energy front, yet somehow still batshit: The Flux Capacitor. Yes, that’s ridiculously modified, but it’s the same fuel type as the Enfield 8000 that it’s based on - plug-in battery electric:

AfromanGTO > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 21:08

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VF Commodore with LPG Factory Option

VF Commodore with E85

Electric Ford Ranger

bhtooefr > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 08/22/2017 at 21:10

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The Hino gets all of its energy from diesel fuel, it’s not a plug-in hybrid.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 21:21

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Yeah...I know. But you can’t blame me for trying!

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 21:59

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I8

bhtooefr > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 08/22/2017 at 22:29

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Cool.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 22:36

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Here’s a wood powered car(I think)as seen in the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

JR1 > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 22:41

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“His 1909 White Model M Steam Car would change hands several times in the following years.” Second to last sentence. Also Hagerty did a YouTube video on it about a year ago.

Where did you find that neat old thing about the White company?

bhtooefr > JR1 08/22/2017 at 22:45

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I was googling around and found that, trying to find what it used for fuel. And, I think the document was about the White Model M as in the model, not that specific car.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > bhtooefr 08/22/2017 at 23:35

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I just came here to say that this picture looks like some serious death and destruction when that electricity sparks.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/22/2017 at 23:38

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“WE DIE LIKE MEN”

Great quote for that one.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > bhtooefr 08/23/2017 at 03:50

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7.3 powerstroke running on veggie oil

One of the 650+ HP E85 evos we have built at the shop

M54 6x6 deuce and a half cause if its flammable it will run on it

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > bhtooefr 08/23/2017 at 09:08

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I had missed the “factory” mention, being tired, but for all that, running on methanol would qualify. Also, if one is making one’s own belly tank racer, the definition of who the “factory” is is rather fluid...