Looking at some wagons and LR3's what could possibly go wrong (if someone would be so kind as to run the VINs for me that would be great)

"R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet" (r-saldana)
08/07/2017 at 14:15 • Filed to: None

Craigslist find number 1:

2007 VW Passat Wagon (base model):

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Anyone able to “learn me real good” on what I should expect from a 10 year old German wagon w/110k+ miles?

VIN: WVWXK73C07E073194

Next up a 13 year old Volvo V70 Cross Country with almost 160k miles:

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VIN: YV1SZ59H341171940

Also from the same year, a slightly less “rugged” Volvo wagon:

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VIN: YV1SW59V342360130

Or if you like to live dangerously (I guess, i’m not that knowledgeable about Swedish cars, except that they are usually very comfortable), a 10 year old V8!!! equipped Volvo:

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Okay, now it’s time to get extra dangerous.

Let’s look at some 10+ year old Land Rovers kids.

“YAY!!!”

First up an 05 with 126k miles. Needs a rocker panel on driver side and passenger side mirror (methinks angry ex reactions). Can anyone tell me why this thing looks like it is raised up to the maximum on its’ air suspension?

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+1 for no NAV

-15 for Fraternity/Sorority Stickers

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Listen up Oppos, for I will tell you the tale of a Land Rover LR3 with 214,xxx miles. A pretty clean 06 that is claimed to have passed emissions and that the emissions pass with be included in the sale. It’s like a British Wonka golden ticket.

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And lastly a blue 06 with 140k miles with a recent full service (1 year ago, smh, pretty sure that those things need to be serviced once every 12-17k miles or realistically once a year). Also, I’m not really sure what the seller means buy “roof display doesn’t work”. Also, also, pictures were taken suspiciously far away from the car...

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Also found, laughably high mileage Land Cruisers and Lexus LX SUVs asking way too much money for the most farted in seats on earth. (not to mention they are all over 15 years old)

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I hate the instagram filter that this “Rockstar Motorcars” place uses on every flipping photograph:

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DISCUSSION (76)

random001 > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:17

Everything. Everything could go wrong.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:19

Johnson Rods suspension lift possibly? Also, look for an LR3 with complete service records. It’s the only way to minimize the wallet pain.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:20

If they’re in good shape, those LXs are probably not far off market value.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/07/2017 at 11:24

I saw that in the listing, but I’m in a TF 3" pro lift in my Disco and it doesn’t look that tall. Getting the VIn from the seller currently.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/07/2017 at 11:25

Pointer doesn’t pay over 5 grand for any vehicle with over 200k miles and seats that look like great grandpa soiled himself during a nap in the later hours of his life.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/07/2017 at 11:25

My comment meaning, no they are not in good shape.

My citroen won't start > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:29

You follow the steps of every Disco 2 owner I know, they all get Disco 3s and 4s (your LR3 -LR4) or the odd Defender (also much cheaper here).

There is no wrong in that.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > My citroen won't start
08/07/2017 at 11:31

Yeah would that I could live in other countries with my current income. I would have all the fun cars.

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:36

As a prior owner of a 2006 LR3 and the current owner of a 2004 Land Cruiser, those prices don’t look terrible. If you’re into LR3s, I would look at the later ones. There are a number of issues on the early ones. Not to mention check to see if the bushings have been replaced, as they like to eat them at 100k or so. The LR4 fixed this apparently. Also make sure the air suspension is good to go (i.e. no sag overnight, pump works). Although if you’re looking around $5k, I would just presume you’ll have issues. I had a fair amount of issues with mine, and yet I still want another. I loved that truck so much.

As for the land cruisers, if you’re under 200k miles, $5k + seems common. Based on ads and what not, I could probably get $10-12k for my 2004 with 170k on it.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:40

Are they HD or MD springs? Normally on the TF there is a bit of sag depending on the weight of your truck so 3" is really 2.5"

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > WiscoProud
08/07/2017 at 11:40

Just generally browsing. About to close on my second house so I need to to not be spending anything at all right now, but that won’t stop me from looking at the menu. :)

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/07/2017 at 11:42

I went HD, Justin sorted me out, the original (read pre-baby) idea was to put on a safarigard rack and RTT at some point.

boredalways > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:45

I would say no to all of them.

The Passat’s interior is easily affected by sun exposure, especially on the radio buttons. I would worry about turbo failure. Plus it’s a base VE model so you can do better.

Old Volvos are awesome until something breaks. Sure, they tend to run for a long time with regular maintenance. But when one old part that’s been on the car for a decade goes, another will soon follow. Had an ‘96 855T and the wiring harness suffered major corrosion from being routed underneath the I-5 turbo engine. The ones you listed may have the same issue design-wise. Don’t know enough about the XC90 V8 other than tha Yamaha built V8 sounds amazeballs in a S80.

Land Rovers: no DeMuro Special, no want...unless you’re planning a LS swap.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:45

The links appear to have disappeared?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/07/2017 at 11:47

Upon further investigation the LX’s actually look halfway decent on the interior:

https://nashville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2001-lexus-lx-470-sport/6223775519.html

https://nashville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2000-lexus-lx-470-base-check/6246648506.html

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:47

Yeah, I was wondering if we were looking at the same Lexuses.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > boredalways
08/07/2017 at 11:48

Oddly enough there is a LS-swapped Disco II for sale here in nashville. Let see if I can find a link.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > boredalways
08/07/2017 at 11:51

http://niche-motors.com/inventory/available/284/view_vehicle/52/available/77/2003-land-rover-discovery-se7-ls-5-3

GG builder:

This Land Rover runs and drives excellent, however there are a few things to note, the temp gauge doesn’t current work, but a temp overheat light was installed. The sunroofs are inop and have not been diagnosed, parking brake does not work, 4 Wheel low does not work, but 4 wheel hi works excellent.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/07/2017 at 11:52

I was looking at the FJ100 interiors. Which are flipping A-W-F-U-L to begin with, damned corolla window switches

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 11:53

I’ll stop browsing for a few months maybe a year after buying a new vehicle, but outside of that narrow period, I’m always looking.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > boredalways
08/07/2017 at 11:55

Could tint not eschew the sun damage issues? and this is too be a mama-mobile for the next 3-5 years until the current gen XC90 and V90 mature a little more (aka I save enough to pay for one with enough cash to give me positive equity when I finance what’s left after down payment)

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > WiscoProud
08/07/2017 at 11:56

^this

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > My citroen won't start
08/07/2017 at 12:11

Ok so I never had much love for the LR4 but I found a last gen (2016) with all the trimmings and I fear I may want it more than an XC90 now.

My citroen won't start > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 12:16

I like the Black Package LR4 with the V8

Kinja'd!!!

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > My citroen won't start
08/07/2017 at 12:19

I fear that the LR4 may possibly go the way of the Defender in the US market. Being the last body on frame SUV from LR:

http://www.momentummotorcars.com/detail-2016-land_rover-lr4-4wd_4dr_hse-used-16592512.html

Kinja'd!!!

Also, I blue myself.

boredalways > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 12:32

Sucks it has some gremlins.

And out of your price range.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > boredalways
08/07/2017 at 12:32

I have no price range, just browsing. That Disco is CP all day because it should go for no more than 5k because its a Disco.

boredalways > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 12:34

Maybe

boredalways > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 12:42

Oh. Since its for Mommy, why not the not quite minivan and not quite crossover Toyota Venza?

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/182389881

boredalways > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 12:57

Or a Subaru Outback:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/164919693

Or this newer V50 wagon:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/177113828

Or splurge a little for TSX wagon:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/180494531

*I’m going to stop now because sometimes I can’t help myself

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > boredalways
08/07/2017 at 13:17

...we have only one kid..and sincerely fuck vans.

CobraJoe > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 15:19

We had a 2.0T B6 Passat sedan. It was quite reliable, but the intake ports on the head gunked up with carbon. If it surges during acceleration during the test drive, it will need to be cleaned out soon. It should be so smooth pulling through the drivetrain that you don’t even notice the turbo building boost. (Granted, we owned an ‘08 in 2013, so it wasn’t that old for us).

The V70 should be pretty solid, the only issues I know of from that era are the AWD system on the V70R and XC70. (Be sure to double check me on this though).

Stay away from the XC90, everything I’ve read says they have expensive problems.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > CobraJoe
08/07/2017 at 15:31

Thanks for the info. Seems like almost any car with direct injection and forced induction has potential for the bad carbon buildup. example my FoST as well.

CobraJoe > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 15:37

I actually did the cleanup myself. Got some picks and sprays and brushes, and carved all that carbon out by myself. It was pretty easy (intake was on the front of the engine), but rather time consuming. If I were to do it again, I’d get a sandblaster and walnut shells for media.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > CobraJoe
08/07/2017 at 15:39

I’ve been told of this method before but I still do not understand it.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 15:41

Holy shit. I’ve looked into doing this. It’s ridiculous. I’d be really curious to know how it drives and performs off road.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/07/2017 at 15:44

It says Johnson rods in the ad.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:47

Well, if 4 Lo doesn’t work then presumably like any “AWD” vehicle out there. This looks to be a pretty shitty completion of the task. But were I more financially free-spirited and mechanically competent then I too would love to LS swap a disco.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:48

Yeah didn’t read the ad, I’d be too tempted and right now I have a kitchen to finish... le sigh.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 15:49

It’s a Johnson rod lift. Says it right in the ad. Hopefully they aligned it to that height though otherwise they can drive like shit. On top of that they probably raised the height to max for pictures which would net ~4".

I suggest 07 and newer though. Fixed a lot of issues the earlier ones had. I would flat out avoid 05. Always the most problematic.

LR3's and LR4's are awesome though. You should totally get one.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:49

Yeah i read that, but this looks a little exaggerated to me, could be the camera angle

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:50

AMGtech, are you going to come to Nashville to help me fix everything that will inevitably be broken on a weekly basis :)

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > boredalways
08/07/2017 at 15:51

So that was a hard pass, esposa said would rather have a proper van.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > boredalways
08/07/2017 at 15:52

Subaru’s seats scream water damaged, worse than kid damage.

The V50 actually piqued some interest, will update later.

TSX, is a hard pass for me, the rear shock towers invade the rear cargo area and rob you of any usability.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 15:52

Agreed. We the we’re a few issues that we couldn’t work out to our satisfaction which is why we never did it. We wanted it to basically function and look as close to stock as possible. Some of the compromises required just made it functionally stupid.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/07/2017 at 15:53

I get that! It’s an 05, so I wasn’t tempted. 07 or up? Count me in!

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 15:55

You’re nuts. But you’re welcome to buy me a plane ticket each time! I bet it would be more reliable in the long run than a D2.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:55

Shhhhhh dammit, don’t make me go looking for an 08...

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:55

Shhhhhh dammit, don’t make me go looking for an 08...

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:55

Sucha shame because i’m pretty sure it’s dern simple if you want to shove an SBC or 5.3 LS into a Defneder or Series 3.

Also, sorry I replied before I read your comment about the suspension. It looked exaggerated to me and I have a 3" HD lift from TF on my DII.

I only want to get rid of the DII because of aged plastics and it’s uper difficult to put an infant into the backseats. Which means the wife gets my ST until we move and/or I get her something new to DD.

CobraJoe > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 15:57

The way I understand it is to take the intake off, make sure the intake valves are closed, then blast the intake port with walnut shell media. They’re softer than aluminum or steel, so they cannot damage the head or valves, but will still clean off the carbon.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/07/2017 at 15:58

I’m not making you do anything. But I bet you’re already doing it.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 15:58

Yeah I feel like i need to find something reliable and save for a 2016 LR4.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 16:02

It is. I have a friend that does it for a living these days.

I know what you mean. My P38 was in the shop when my daughter was born so I was using my friend/employer’s (same guy from above actually) D2 the day I brought her home. Such a pain.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 16:03

144 month loan!

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 16:04

Seriously, those rear door arms on the D2. Why tho? Literally no reason to have such a short opening space, but I would never change that kind of structural element.

WiscoProud > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 16:04

I read that as unreliable as the early LR3s were, they still had 40% less warranty claims than the D2s. Not sure if that’s still true, but they were an improvement.

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 16:07

They have the balls to ask $16,900 for that? I have to say I’m impressed. Not in the vehicle, its crap, but in the chutzpah.

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 16:08

We broke down and test drove minivans this last weekend. The Chrysler Town & Country has some of the worst body roll I’ve ever felt. Way worse than my cruiser. Sienna was a nice place to be though.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > WiscoProud
08/07/2017 at 16:14

Dear Sienna/Odyssey Drivers,

Move like you have a flipping purpose in life, or GTFO of my way. I know you are doing mental mathematics on how you will get Billie-Sue and Tammy-Ray to soccer/softball and ballet/jazz class in the span of an hour, but the speed limit is not divided by the amount of terrible decisions you made in life (2). So flipping move already. And stop hovering the center line, and stop tailgating me when I legally passed you. Don’t take out your pent up regret and frustration on me because you refuse to take charge of your life.

Disclaimer: When I have driven vans in the past, I drive them harder and faster than I do rental cars. Because vans should be ashamed that they exist when wagons can do everything they do better. RIP in peace rear-facing seats.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > WiscoProud
08/07/2017 at 16:16

Those transfer case and gauge issues will probably cost >3k to sort out. So multiply that by 3 and then subtract it from the listed price and you will have the amount of money i would be willing to pay for this unfinished project.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 16:23

Kinja'd!!!

Sorry what? I wasn’t paying attention...

boredalways > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/07/2017 at 16:47

Never looked at the photos on the Subie. Yeah, them are tore up. Plenty of other Subies out there to choose from.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > WiscoProud
08/07/2017 at 17:21

That wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/07/2017 at 17:22

How is the one with the lowest mileage the cheapest!?

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 17:30

No bloody clue, however it’s only 40 minutes from my house...

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/07/2017 at 17:42

Obviously that’s way too far to drive. Half a world away!

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
08/07/2017 at 18:23

Completely!

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/08/2017 at 10:51

I would agree. My wife just really want’s captain chairs in the second row, so I’ve been trying to push her towards SUVs with them. I will admit a Sienna has a ton of utility, blah, blah, blah, but its still so effing boring.

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/08/2017 at 10:52

Sounds about right. $5-6k depending on the quality of the swap.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > WiscoProud
08/08/2017 at 10:56

Why does she want captains chairs? Won’t she be driving?

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/08/2017 at 11:06

It has something to do with separating the kids in the second row, although we only have one at the moment. Honestly, since I typically drive on road trips, I think shes hoping to take advantage of them.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > WiscoProud
08/08/2017 at 11:09

ok makes sense then, you do you booboo

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/08/2017 at 11:11

She seemed awfully enamored with the ability to recline with a footrest in the sienna....

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > WiscoProud
08/08/2017 at 11:16

You know the Genesis Equus does that, so does the Lexus LS4xx lwb model

WiscoProud > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
08/08/2017 at 11:23

It think I did read that about the equus. Didn’t know about the Lexus though. That would be a comfortable, reliable cruiser, unlike the 750i I was eyeing up last weekend.