"itschrome" (itschrome)
08/03/2017 at 09:41 • Filed to: None
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"itschrome" (itschrome)
08/03/2017 at 09:41 • Filed to: None | 2
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So yeah, job hunting. What a PITA! I had two interviews recently worth talking about. One is a lead tech position at a gig that i dont really want but could do easy. The other is a director of IT position with a not for profit, this I want.
The first gig for the lead position was hilariously under paid and i basically told them I need 8 grand more a year to say yes. Assuming they would be like GTFO.
The director gig pays very well. They called my references this week and I’m waiting, pay will be much higher and the challenges greater.
Only thing is the lead job came back with an offer this morning.. 9 grand over what they first told me.. fuck!!
Now to stall a few more days.. fuuuuuuuuuu.....
yitznewton
> itschrome
08/03/2017 at 09:54 |
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With tech jobs you get some who lowball like that, and some who actually offer what they can pay... I think it’s a faux pas to counter-offer and not accept their new offer which meets your terms though. So depending on how etiquetty the lead job people are, stalling them might not be taken well. 2¢
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itschrome
> yitznewton
08/03/2017 at 09:57 |
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That’s the thing, I fully agree! It is a dick move. I really didn’t expect them to go that high. Uuggghh I suck at this.. haha
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yitznewton
> itschrome
08/03/2017 at 10:05 |
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It’s the kind of thing you need practice at, but you don’t want to be in a position to practice it :D
themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
> itschrome
08/03/2017 at 10:12 |
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Hey, no shame in saying “While I appreciate your counter offer, I will need a few weeks to wrap up my current job as well as some other interviews” If they ask questions, explain that their first offer was far too low for the industry and that their raised offer is only “competitive” and not something to get you to sign immediately. If they offer more money on top of that, then you can take it, knowing you’re getting good money, or if they say “Well that’s our offer” then you’re good to wait at least a week or two. That’s the industry standard near me, anyways. Maybe it’s different outside of the chemical industry...
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> yitznewton
08/03/2017 at 10:13 |
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Maybe it’s is different in tech, but in engineering it is reasonable to say that I need a day or two to evaluate the offer. It is uncomfortable to ask, but in my experience most hiring managers are understanding that I may be deciding between offers and need a bit of time.
notsomethingstructural
> itschrome
08/03/2017 at 10:22 |
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Stall. Ask for all their benefit terms, employee premium contributions, PTO availability, just everything under the sun. Try to buy a day or two. If there seems to be some sort of issue just tell them you’re weighing competing offers. I don’t think it’s bad to be honest here - but I would stall first.
ETA: “stall” does not mean excommunicate them. That would be rude and bad.
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itschrome
> notsomethingstructural
08/03/2017 at 10:42 |
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Yeah, that’s what I am doing more or less. Just asking a slow stream of questions to buy me till monday or Tuesday at best.
gawdzillla
> itschrome
08/03/2017 at 12:43 |
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I didnt even get that many interviews for the 100s of resumes I sent out
sucks trying to find a job out of states
Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> itschrome
08/11/2017 at 18:59 |
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What you need to do is ask yourself whether you
really
feel ready to be the director. And does the director have any staff, or is he a one-man tech shop? If there
is
IT staff, are they any good? Would you have an opportunity to interview
them
?
The counteroffer means Gig One really is interested in you. Maybe take the job and spend a year or two at it and focus your efforts on growing the resume.
I’d be very careful about rejecting that counteroffer.