Omigod, it's.......

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 07/13/2017 at 14:24 • Filed to: Planelopnik

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The Valkyrie. I finally get to see it.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 14:27

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Oh my god...

It’s a (Dassault) Mirage

benjrblant > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 14:28

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Why did this wing design/layout not really catch on?

AuthiCooper1300 > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 14:29

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You lucky .

And you get to see the X-15 too!

(I don’t consider myself an envious person but in this case...)

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 07/13/2017 at 14:29

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But was it really there?

EL_ULY > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 14:29

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dude coooooooooooooool!

garagemonkee > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 14:30

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oh hey, that’s at Wright Patterson, which is where I live now. I should go over there.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/13/2017 at 14:35

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It crashed. I’m telling y’all it’s sabotage.

AuthiCooper1300 > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 14:37

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Do you mean the canards or the XB-70's wingtips that go down?

benjrblant > AuthiCooper1300 07/13/2017 at 14:41

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The canards.

random001 > garagemonkee 07/13/2017 at 14:42

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Excuse me?! That’s where I am literally RIGHT NOW!

Rock Bottom > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 14:43

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Best museum ever. I could spend an entire day in the missile silo alone!

phenotyp > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 14:44

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I got to see it when I was 10. Permanent spot in my all-time top five coolest lifetime moments.

AuthiCooper1300 > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 14:52

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In fact there are quite a few combat aircraft with canards nowadays (although I suppose most were designed around the 70s).

The industry designed aircraft with “traditional” wing configurations for far longer, so the full body of technical data was smaller for canard aircraft. Adding them required much more research and experimentation.

If I remember correctly canards help avoid stalls - and combined with “relaxed stability” controls, increase manoueuverability.

Surely there are Oppos here that could give a better, more detailed explanation?

Echo51 > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 14:58

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Inefficient at lower cruise speeds so more money spent on fuel? But needed for the supersonic flight which nobody wants to do anymore because of cost.

TrickJos > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 15:00

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Welcome to Dayton! The XB-70 is remarkable, but SAM 26000 is my personal favorite.

There are several good breweries downtown if you like beer and need something to do later. Warped Wing is my favorite.

garagemonkee > random001 07/13/2017 at 15:02

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oh, I apologize, I meant I’m in the general vicinity of Dayton, OH, not in the military or anything, sorry!!

Jayhawk Jake > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 15:08

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What do you mean? If you’re simply referring to “delta wing with canard” it’s been done, look at the Eurofighter Typhoon or the Dassault Rafale. If you mean the “mach wave” drooped wingtips I just don’t think anything big enough to take advantage of it has been made since

Ash78, voting early and often > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 07/13/2017 at 15:18

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I’m tellin’ y’all it’s...some kind of French word for intentional compromise with malevolent intent!

Ash78, voting early and often > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 15:19

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Basically this plane was replaced by ICBMs. Fucking disruptive technology, always taking the cool planes away. But we got to keep the B-52 for another 300 years, so there’s that.

benjrblant > Ash78, voting early and often 07/13/2017 at 15:29

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Truth! I’d be way more excited about flying on an XB-70 than a 737-700. Southwest- take note.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Ash78, voting early and often 07/13/2017 at 15:41

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A fake surrender?

random001 > garagemonkee 07/13/2017 at 15:46

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I work on WPAFB. Engineer. But yay!

Ash78, voting early and often > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 15:48

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Well, the Concorde basically was XB-70 technology applied to the consumer market. It just wasn’t profitable to squeeze a handful of people into a tiny cabin to cross the Atlantic in 2 hours. People could just make a phone call or send an email, then make the 7-hour flight :D

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > ttyymmnn 07/13/2017 at 17:10

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Awesome you finally made it here!

Great weather to stay inside and ogle amazing planes.

Dusty Ventures > AuthiCooper1300 07/13/2017 at 19:07

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Valkyre, X-15, SR-71, YF-12 (precursor to the Blackbird), Tacit fucking Blue...

AuthiCooper1300 > Dusty Ventures 07/13/2017 at 19:58

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I later realised that in the picture you can also see what I suppose is an YF-12A, a lifting body (a replica of the X-24A?) and behind that another one, maybe (X-24B?).

Tacit Blue, no less.

Dusty Ventures > AuthiCooper1300 07/13/2017 at 20:19

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I’ll go through my photos when I get home

AuthiCooper1300 > Dusty Ventures 07/13/2017 at 20:24

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I bet you too had a nice time there. Congrats.

ttyymmnn > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 07/13/2017 at 20:51

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Got there about 10 minutes after it opened, left 5 minutes before it closed. I was like a kid in a candy store. The new hangar is simply amazing.

ttyymmnn > TrickJos 07/13/2017 at 20:52

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Would have loved to stay, but I drove down from Ft. Wayne and had to get back.

ttyymmnn > phenotyp 07/13/2017 at 20:54

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My wife and I visited about 25 years ago. They only had 3 buildings and I didn’t get to see the XB-70. That required a bus ride to an offsite hangar. The new 4th building is jaw dropping. To see so many of the planes I’ve written about was thrilling.

ttyymmnn > random001 07/13/2017 at 20:58

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Go volunteer there and give tours. I overheard a docent telling his group that the Valkyrie crashed because of “structural failure.” Yeah, the structure failed when Joe Walker’s F-104 crashed into it. The story of GE’s vanity that lead to the death of two pilots needs to be told.

ttyymmnn > EL_ULY 07/13/2017 at 20:58

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It was! Massive photo dump after I get home next week.

ttyymmnn > Dusty Ventures 07/13/2017 at 21:00

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I got the X-15, A-12 and XB-70 all in a single photo.

Dusty Ventures > AuthiCooper1300 07/13/2017 at 21:45

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I was there back in March. Here’s my album from my trip

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/oh-my-gosh-look-at-that-butt-1793265068

AuthiCooper1300 > Dusty Ventures 07/14/2017 at 03:11

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Thank you very much indeed for the link!

Too much to comment on and to congratulate you about but I just cannot pass the chance to thank you for that picture of the X-29...

(sigh)

random001 > ttyymmnn 07/14/2017 at 06:37

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I’m pretty sure the placard says the same thing. Structural Failure.

I might do that when I’m done with grad school. I’d have time...

Roundbadge > ttyymmnn 07/14/2017 at 08:47

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I can see myself doing that, and my gf hating me for it the entire time. I got in trouble for not waiting in one place while she went to the bathroom. I’d only moved about 30 feet, but I was around the corner looking at the Junkers Jumo 004 on display. That was 2007, and I still get yelled at about it today.

ttyymmnn > Roundbadge 07/14/2017 at 09:32

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I just left my wife and younger sons at home.

Dusty Ventures > AuthiCooper1300 07/14/2017 at 17:20

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The X-29 was a pain in the ass to photograph, because it was too big/too low to fit in the frame. I actually ended up laying on the floor on my back and using panorama mode on my phone to get the whole thing.

EngineerWithTools > ttyymmnn 07/15/2017 at 21:02

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....and a KH-9 Hexagon spy satellite! Much jealousy!