Why aren't there muscle crossovers? 

"Carbon Fiber Sasquatch" (turbopumpkin) 06/27/2017 at 18:27 • Filed to: None

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Jack Baruth explains it best but it is surprising that only the Durango has a “muscle” variant without buying a luxury car

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I don’t think that its going to save the enthusiast but it does seem like it would make money

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:32

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Nissan did. Limited slip, short ratio 6spd, Recaros.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:32

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Nissan did. Limited slip, short ratio 6spd, Recaros.

Honeybunchesofgoats > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:32

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Because absolutely no one (almost no one, shut up) buying a crossover cares about performance. Even in the luxury market, it’s not about the added performance, but the added exclusivity.

jasmits > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:32

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My intuition says no one would buy it because crossovers are focused at people who don’t really care about cars. But people buy V6 Camrys which is like a muscle piece of Wonder Bread so what do I know?

HammerheadFistpunch > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:40

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3rd gen Toyota rav4 V6 was pretty hot. Almost all the XT foresters were pretty hot stuff (especially the SG). Generally speaking...people care about performance crossovers like I care for Jack Baruth (not at all)

Nick Has an Exocet > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:41

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I think muscle implies RWD and crossovers just aren’t. That said, a V8 Mustang or Camaro platform crossover would be interesting.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:47

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There is such a thing as a CR-V Si. Unfortunately it costs $35k and has a beak on the front.

Berang > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:49

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THE ONLY WAY

how does this man get paid?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 18:59

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But there are.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Nick Has an Exocet 06/27/2017 at 19:02

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Yeah, that’s a great idea. It would definitely help justify the cost of platform development for those vehicles.

I just think of all the people who want a pony car but their spouses say that it needs four doors and be more practical (this, this is my situation). A camaro or mustang based crossover would sell.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/27/2017 at 19:04

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I mean, sub $50k would be nice lol

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Berang 06/27/2017 at 19:06

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By saying ridiculous things lol

misfitmascots > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 19:12

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Honestly because for the most part, crossovers are marketed toward women. If you’re a dad and you walk onto any car lot that has full-size SUVs that’s what they’re steering you to or a truck. If you’re a mom crossover first.

Vicente Esteve > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 19:21

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The new GLC-63 AMG with the V8 will certainly be a muscle crossover.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Vicente Esteve 06/27/2017 at 19:34

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It’ll also be over $80k, I’m curious about the lack of non-luxury muscle crossovers

RT > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 19:36

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So, cars like the Subaru Forester STI and Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo R?

404 - User No Longer Available > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 20:24

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Chevrolet tried.

LongbowMkII > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 20:32

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All I know is that oppo gets under his skin and that brings me some joy.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > 404 - User No Longer Available 06/27/2017 at 20:56

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I mean 264hp in a car that size isn’t exactly crazy. It’s X5 sized when the X5M was pumping out nearly double the power

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > HammerheadFistpunch 06/27/2017 at 21:02

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I’m just thinking about a company doing something significantly over 300hp at least. Something the size of the new Equinox but with the Camaro V6 or 5.3L V8 would be a good start.

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/27/2017 at 21:02

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Well that’s more a crossover between an obscenity and a vulgarity

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > misfitmascots 06/27/2017 at 21:05

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Yeah, the only crossovers that seem to be remotely marketed towards men are Jeeps. Everything else is BOF

Vicente Esteve > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/27/2017 at 22:06

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Like an Escape ST?

The closest thing we have is the 2.0 Tiguan with 4 motion. Pretty much a GTI engine and Golf R Haldex system, but no one bats an eye at it.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Vicente Esteve 06/27/2017 at 22:10

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The Focus RS engine in the escape? I know the MKC does it but it’s tuned for smoothness. If it was tuned like the RS, that would be a heck of a crossover

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 06/27/2017 at 22:21

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I’d rather owe it to you than cheat you out of it.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/28/2017 at 02:36

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The X5 M was playing in a whole nother league. I’m not even sure if both of them were on the market at the same time.

Vicente Esteve > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/28/2017 at 07:56

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I bet an aftermarket company would happily oblige.

The idea of a baldy crossover is extremely enticing to me.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 06/28/2017 at 09:54

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Oh yeah, but that’s what you’re paying for. If the Equinox would have had 364, that would have been a hot crossover

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Vicente Esteve 06/28/2017 at 10:02

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350hp in a non-premium compact crossover would sell. It would be the one all the husbands buy

Vicente Esteve > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/28/2017 at 14:42

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Was the Journey with 290 hp the closest thing?

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Vicente Esteve 06/28/2017 at 15:47

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Probably, but it’s a seven seat midsize isn’t it? A hot one of those would have to be at least 400 hp

Vicente Esteve > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/28/2017 at 18:05

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HEMI swap.