"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
06/09/2017 at 07:32 • Filed to: Design
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"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind)
06/09/2017 at 07:32 • Filed to: Design | 2
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That 301 hp and 267 lb-ft of all natural torque producing 3.5L V6 goodness. Even the base 2.5L is running 203-206 hp and 184-186 lb-ft. Look at how they pretty much pulled off a RWD haunch (but only from the rear 3/4). If the Lexus ES is actually replacing the GS then I can completely see why Lexus would make that call now. Very visually emotive Camry.
I love that the design moves my eye so much even if I’m not that into what I’m seeing. One thing that’s hard on a lot of people is assessing that beauty is aesthetically pleasing but great design doesn’t need to be at all. Toyota and Lexus jumped to the head of the class for great design, but most would react to the appearances as if they were fully avant garde. Nissan was extremely far into design at
I like that Toyota is playing. Just proof that excessive public ridicule is morally horrific but it gets results! I still think that the designs from Toyota and Lexus are industry leading, it’s just enthusiasts aren’t ready for the aesthetic transition between cars going from machines to devices. I’m in the same boat and say we are in the Uncanny Valley of car design, but once we get through this we will have some very attractive mobility devices.
Great design, NOT pretty. I know as you all actually see these in motion and out in the world there are going to be numerous posts expressing how much you didn’t hate this thing. Then you’ll start seeing them everywhere with the tiny hubcaps and non-metallic paint and realize it’s still a Camry, and nothing ever changes that much in the auto industry.
I’m still waiting on the new Accord and Altima since all three brands have something to prove.
jimz
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 07:44 |
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Ugh. as if ruining Lexus wasn’t bad enough.
Hint to Toyota and Honda: “Weird” and “Ugly” is not the same thing as “Exciting.”
yes, a good design should evoke a visceral reaction. Vomiting is the wrong one.
Jason Spears
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 07:45 |
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all three brands have something to prove.
The fact that it’s so obvious that a car has something to prove is the problem for me. High marks here for avoiding chromifying everything like on the current Accord, but the (fake) quad exhaust and deep hood creases are just trying way too hard. What, no power bulge and box flares?
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Wobbles the Mind
> jimz
06/09/2017 at 07:52 |
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All these 2018 cars are growing on me, well festering on me anyways.
Vicente Esteve
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 08:00 |
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If the Accord looks as crazy as the Civic, this Camry like a dub customs 06 Camry and the Altima ends up looking boring since Nissan willingly makes mediocre products I seriously couldn’t decide between the three.
Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
> jimz
06/09/2017 at 08:07 |
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Any reaction is still a reaction. I have never had an issue with Camrys being “ugly”. The problem with the Camry has always been that it is so unoffensive that it bothers me. It’s like they didnt even try so it just pisses me off. But if it comes out ugly in an attempt to be pretty, then I am happy it exists. It’s like the Juke or Aztek, i love the ugliness because at least its not beige.
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Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 08:09 |
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What a butter face! Even though the quad exhausts are fake, it seems badass at least. Kinda like rice from the factory, but I dont hate looking at it from behind.
I do find it funny when automakers take pictures on a track with their normal street cars. Even though the V6 is gonna be fast for sure, no way in hell will people be tracking that boat.
Chuckles
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 08:11 |
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I like how they managed to incorporate the Camry Dent into their design language.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 08:15 |
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correction, New Camry is Bad - FTFY.
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 08:18 |
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R&T reviewed a prototype, and apparently it’s actually really fucking good.
Nibby
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 08:34 |
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fun fact, the current gen ES is based on the Avalon
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Wobbles the Mind
> Nibby
06/09/2017 at 08:38 |
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What I never understood was why the ES drives like a super Camry instead of like the Avalon which has been one of the sportiest in its segment for like a decade.
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Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/09/2017 at 08:40 |
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They won’t be, but R&T ran a prototype on a track and seemed thoroughly impressed.
Textured Soy Protein
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 09:08 |
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Rwd haunch? Dafuq you talking about?
avalonian
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 09:30 |
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Yeah, I drive an avalon. Hence my screen name lol, but that thing is anything but sporty, it’s like driving a yacht. But damn, does she push herself wide in corners.
fintail
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 09:32 |
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Different for the sake of different isn’t better. However, overstyled (to make an appliance seem exciting for timid suburban drones) front end notwithstanding, I think this is an improvement. The insane DLO fail in the C-pillar of the current model is inexcusable.
Great design from Toyolex? Nah, come back in 25 years and see what the world thinks about it. That’s when a design can become great.
Discerning
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 09:39 |
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I wish they would make an AWD variant. Not sure why they won’t, aside from customers side stepping these for cross overs when they want AWD.
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Discerning
> Nibby
06/09/2017 at 09:41 |
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In all fairness, the ES, Avalon, and Camry all ride on a very similar platform (K platform). The ES and Avalon just have a slightly longer wheelbase.
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Discerning
> Jason Spears
06/09/2017 at 09:44 |
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The exhaust tips on this car don’t look fake to me.
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Nibby
> avalonian
06/09/2017 at 09:55 |
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what year?
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Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
> Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
06/09/2017 at 10:02 |
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I am happy that is a thing.
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Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/09/2017 at 10:06 |
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I was wrong, it was Motortrend, but still.
ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 10:36 |
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That new Camry looks good from every angle except the front. They still haven’t fixed that goddamned grill, and it will probably keep me from ever owning any current-ish generation Toyota product that sports it.
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avalonian
> Nibby
06/09/2017 at 12:10 |
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2005 Toyota avalon XLS
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> Wobbles the Mind
06/09/2017 at 21:30 |
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we live in a glrious time when base models have 200hp.