Update on the Titan

"mkbruin, Atlas VP" (mkbruin)
05/31/2017 at 20:35 • Filed to: None

Fuck human beings.

DISCUSSION (35)

Aremmes > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:37

Hhm... small claims court?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:40

Sue ‘em.

Shoop > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:43

Update periodically thx

Shoop > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
05/31/2017 at 20:44

SUE THE BASTARDS

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:45

Just say you’ll be getting the authorities involved, I bet that deposit gets returned real quick.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:45

How much was the deposit?

Cash Rewards > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:45

Mkbruin later tonight

Kinja'd!!!

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:46

Swift action is best action in my experience in situations like these. Make a best case to settle(required before small claims usually) and then go to BBB, consumers office of Atty Gen if you have one, and small claims. If you can do it all within 24 hours, all the better. Good Luck!

DipodomysDeserti > Cash Rewards
05/31/2017 at 20:51

Is this your deposit, Larry?

wiffleballtony > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 20:57

What happened?

Vicente Esteve > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 21:12

Christ what a horrible way to end what started out to be an exciting experience.

Chariotoflove > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 21:14

Dude for all of us here, I beg you to please threaten a rain of hell fire on this douche.*

*of the legal kind of course.

PotbellyJoe and 42 others > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 21:27

By card? You can pull funds, credit cards like customers more than car dealers. I know, I was both.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 21:28

I’d remind him that, because this is a case of fraud, if you sue you’re entitled to treble damages. In other words, he can give you $500 now or $1500 + legal fees when you win in court. In the meantime, save all the info you have - the ad, any communication with the seller, and the evidence of tampering - in case you do need it later. If he won’t budge, you can refer him to federal CBP agents. They are the ones that enforce odometer tampering/fraud crimes, which are a federal felony. Basically, this seller could all kinds of fucked if you were to pursue it, so the smart thing would be for him to just give the money back.

Sovande > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 21:28

What happened? Made a deal, gave a deposit and then changed your mind? I have been in both sides of this equation and I have kept a deposit before after getting screwed by a buyer. A deposit is by DEFINITION non-refundable or it has no meaning.

Sovande > Aremmes
05/31/2017 at 21:36

$200 to file to get $500 back? Nah. Generally speaking, a deposit is consideration for the seller NOT selling his item. If you don’t buy it, he/she keeps the deposit as liquidated damages.

“Here is $500 for you not to sell your item to anyone but me.”

“I changed my mind give me my money back. “

It’s just not how it works. Is the right thing to do give the money back? Sure. But I don’t think he has to.

Dusty Ventures > Sovande
05/31/2017 at 21:46

Mkbruin wants his money back because after putting his deposit down he discovered the truck has fraudulent mileage. Seller keeping the money would be fair if he’d just changed his mind, but fraud is a completely different story

vicali > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 21:49

Draagg, bummer, do what you can but you might be outta luck.

mr2gud2u > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 21:51

Windows Phone?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Sovande
05/31/2017 at 21:52

He made a deposit, then realized that the odometer had been swapped or rolled back due to continuing research. Read. The. Posts. If not disclosed or documented (and often enough even then), illegal and fraudulent.

Also, there’s a reason the term of art “non-refundable deposit” is often used - there is absolutely no definition making all deposits non-refundable. Typical, but it’s also unusual to need a deposit back - for the completely sane reason that anyone willing to pay a portion of money due does not often make discoveries of this kind during the process.

Anyway, keeping the deposit because the sale fell apart due to (discovered) shenanigans *by the seller* is the dirtiest of pool.

shop-teacher > Sovande
05/31/2017 at 21:53

Odometer fraud happened.

Sovande > Dusty Ventures
05/31/2017 at 21:54

Yeah, that sounds like a completely different deal. My bad!

Aremmes > Sovande
05/31/2017 at 21:56

$500-$200=$300. He might not get all of the money, but getting more than 50% of the deposit back is still much better than getting 0% back. Seems simple to me.

He might not have to go there, though, if the threat to take him to court over possible odometer tampering and fraudulent representation of goods gets the seller to reconsider.

Sovande > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/31/2017 at 21:57

I agree, I didn’t see a post regarding the rolled back odometer. My bad.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Aremmes
05/31/2017 at 22:34

also fuck that guy, don’t let him get the $500 without a fight.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/31/2017 at 22:51

Even in real estate, when you have non-refundable earnest monies, you can get those back in cases where a major contingency falls through, like the inspection shows there are major major MAJOR problems with the house, and the seller won’t fix any of them, or the house appraises for less than the offer price (because your bank won’t let you take out as much of a loan then).

So if you find shenanigans in any deal, any *good* seller will let you back out completely.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > mkbruin, Atlas VP
05/31/2017 at 22:58

I can’t imagine that this thing falls into the exemption category (i.e. more than 10 years old).

If there’s no paper trail showing an odometer replacement, then it may at the very least warrant reporting the car as being offered for sale with a tampered odometer to the USDOT.