He's Fucked... Right? (Politics)

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05/15/2017 at 19:39 • Filed to: None

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Like, he has to be.

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His own party can’t talk their way outta this:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.500c89fedd06

This White House has been so intent on punishing small low level leaks and he’s telling Russia code-word classified intel without permission? What in the ever loving fuck is going on?

I try my best to put his stupid antics aside, but this shit is just un-everything. I’m just fucking livid at this point.


DISCUSSION (51)


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 19:45

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As the president he is able to declassify information as he sees fit so he didn’t do anything illegal. Nobody likes this move though.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
05/15/2017 at 19:48

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yeah, this. however his capriciousness will do him in sooner or later.

the meme says Trump is playing “4D Chess.” I disagree. he’s like a pigeon playing chess. he’ll knock over some pieces, shit on the board, and fly back to his flock claiming victory.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
05/15/2017 at 19:50

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I don’t mean illegal, I just mean that this seems like a final straw that could easily break the RNC’s back. Mass defection of senator support.


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 19:50

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But her emails.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > TheHondaBro
05/15/2017 at 19:53

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“We fired that guy for investigating me being mean to her, remember how great terrible it was when he did that. That guy was great the worst”


Kinja'd!!! TorqueToYield > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 19:54

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In general the President of the US can do pretty much whatever the fuck he wants and it’s ‘legal’. Since the President is head of the executive branch, and the executive branch is in charge of executing and enforcing the laws of the US, the President obviously isn’t going to enforce laws against himself.

It would have to come from Congress or the Courts for any repercussions, but it’s a whole lot of grey area. Here’s an old article about Clinton:

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/25/weekinreview/the-nation-a-primer-prosecuting-a-president.html

This is only legally speaking. He may be fucked either way. And if he’s impeached and removed from office I imagine he would then be able to be legally prosecuted.


Kinja'd!!! Tekamul > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 19:57

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As SNL so painfully put it this week, nothing matters anymore.

So no, he’s not fucked, it will continue to be business as usual, that is to say, bat shit crazy.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > TorqueToYield
05/15/2017 at 19:57

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As I said to TheTurbochargedSquirrel:

I don’t mean illegal, I just mean that this seems like a final straw that could easily break the RNC’s back. Mass defection of senator support.


Kinja'd!!! Honeybunchesofgoats > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 19:59

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My comment on the FA post:

If Trump was sharing information about IS that was relevant to the Russians, it likely means it was about IS in Syria and the intelligence came from either the Turks or anti-Assad groups. I’d like to think that Trump didn’t share intelligence information from people the Russians are bombing, but I’m not sure selling out a NATO ally (even if it’s currently run by a Putin-level shitbag) is a comforting alternative.


Kinja'd!!! TorqueToYield > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:01

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Ah yea, I totally agree. I just went down that rabbit hole myself and thought it was interesting.

The RNC will still support him for a bunch of reasons, especially if the public continues to. Reasons like - Neal Gorsuch and more Supreme Court openings (biggest one IMHO), tax reform, pandering to the religious right, etc etc. They view Trump as a useful fool.

I don’t see leaking a bit of not all that sensitive classified information as changing anything honestly.


Kinja'd!!! hike > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:01

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But fox news said the white house denied the reports so he did nothing wrong

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But yeah this shit just keeps adding up.


Kinja'd!!! whoarder is tellurium > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:03

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Fuck the Washington Post and their “current and former U.S Official” sources.

The President can share and declassify information, especially if it relates to matters of national security.

I know... I know... “BUT THE RUSSIANS”.

That has been the story since day one and only one person has actually been confirmed to be acting “badly” with the Russians: Mike Flynn.

Trump is far from perfect but the media is searching for every little bit to nit pick about and has resorted to stretching information farther than it should go.


Kinja'd!!! 190octane > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:05

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These feel like body blows, but the knockout punch has to come soon. You can’t just keep taking hits like this and not taken out.

The best part is that most of these stories are just him hitting himself in the balls.


Kinja'd!!! whoarder is tellurium > Honeybunchesofgoats
05/15/2017 at 20:06

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To be honest, I’m surprised the Turks are still in NATO.

They’re far from angels at this point too.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > whoarder is tellurium
05/15/2017 at 20:07

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But we all know he’s not “sharing and declassifying information, especially if it relates to matters of national security” he’s just bragging loosely without understanding the ramifications.


Kinja'd!!! whoarder is tellurium > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:09

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We don’t know anything! So why are we using speculation as truth?

Again, MSM is painting this narrative that anything trump does = dirty.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > TheHondaBro
05/15/2017 at 20:11

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have you read the book “Shattered” yet? I’m over halfway through it, and I’m starting to realize how Clinton’s campaign snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.


Kinja'd!!! G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:11

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Sadly, there will still be a sizable amount of the population willing to overlook this incident. The way Trump is able to brush off these incidents by simply spewing more inane BS is absolutely astonishing.


Kinja'd!!! 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > whoarder is tellurium
05/15/2017 at 20:14

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Have you seen the euro thugs drumpf has been associated with for years? Some of the people were even arrested while living in drumpf tower. One very shady criminal that flipped was an advisor for him. But it does really look like very bad people associated with human trafficking etc.. we’re investing with him and he knew they were not good people, he walked out of the room when asked about it, the FBI is all over it.


Kinja'd!!! just-a-scratch > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:15

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He’s only in trouble if Congress makes it so. If you don’t like it, contact your representative and senators.


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > jimz
05/15/2017 at 20:16

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Oh, hes a toddler running around with a gun and eventually someone is going to die.


Kinja'd!!! 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:19

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I hope something really catches up with him soon. He has connections with very bad Eastern Euro gangsters, technically not Russian money buy the biggest one is a Russian. One of them changed his name and was an advisor for him, but was the son of a Russian mobster. He was broke several times, these guys used their funds.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:20

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You’re assuming his supporters even read or care about the stuff that is said here. Basically anything anti Trump, true or false is disregarded as leftist propaganda.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > wiffleballtony
05/15/2017 at 20:24

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His most ardent supporters will be there till the end, but I can see the moderates slowly but consistently defecting.


Kinja'd!!! 190octane > whoarder is tellurium
05/15/2017 at 20:25

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I love the MSM bullshit... they need to be more “fair and balanced” like Fox News.

Why would the president meet with the Russians in the Oval Office, the day after he fired the FBI director for an investigation into trump’s Russian ties? Of course he thinks no one would find out because he doesn’t allow the US media in, but he’s so stupid he allows Russian media in?

Even if he’s not treasonous, he’s too fucking stupid to be president.


Kinja'd!!! unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
05/15/2017 at 20:30

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But we get that sweet WALL before that.


Kinja'd!!! wafflesnfalafel > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:31

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nope - virtually no current republicans will vote against him at this point in any situation that actually maters. And those that have stuff on him are using it to their personal advantage rather than air dirty laundry for the good of the country. The American public is going to have to get used to sharing a lot more with Russian oligarchs given that’s kinda what they voted for.


Kinja'd!!! Viggen > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:31

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Maybe? Probably?


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:32

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I guess. I didn’t think many moderates voted for him the first time. The only ones that come to mind are the never Hillary ones.


Kinja'd!!! whoarder is tellurium > 190octane
05/15/2017 at 20:33

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I hate all MSM. Including Fox News. Nothing original. All shared rhetoric. Honest journalism is dead right now.

Also, why is it a bad thing for the President to meet with the Russians?

Optics are one thing but if we’re trying to prevent war (or simply conflict) with each other, you have to keep talking and communicating.

Its almost as if some people want us to completely shut down any talk with Russia at this point. Like we’re some sort of innocent country who has never tampered or meddled in anyone else’s elections before and must treat this as some sort of “act of war”.

Russia will continue to elevate their levels of aggressiveness unless we are proactive and keep up communication. They’ve got to know we’re not to be tested and we must work out our conflicts.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Viggen
05/15/2017 at 20:35

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Hopefully?


Kinja'd!!! 190octane > whoarder is tellurium
05/15/2017 at 20:42

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Saying CNN is the same as fox is ignorant at best. I would call what The NY Times and Washington post are doing right now honest journalism. It’s not fake news just because it goes against your guy and the facts aren’t convenient to your side.

If you are good with Russia interfering in our elections and saying we are just as bad as they are, you’re obviously too far down the rabbit hole for me to pull you back into reality.


Kinja'd!!! Viggen > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 20:53

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As an independent who’s political leaning is the Constitution, yes, hopefully.


Kinja'd!!! whoarder is tellurium > 190octane
05/15/2017 at 20:54

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Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Russia. Putin is still an ex-KGB communist POS that should sent to prison for war crimes. Russia cannot be forgiven over their involvement in eastern Ukraine.

However, its far too easily forgotten that we’re not perfect either. That’s it and that is all. Our politicians throw fits and act like we’re some perfect angelic country that’s never done a thing wrong and suddenly it’s shocking how our cold war enemy Russia has tried to meddle in our business.


Kinja'd!!! Honeybunchesofgoats > whoarder is tellurium
05/15/2017 at 21:11

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Erdogan uses NATO and airbases like he uses refugees with Europe. The US has too much at stake to hold him to accountable for anything, which is why Kurds are playing Charlie Brown to our Lucy and getting screwed yet again.


Kinja'd!!! TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 21:43

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Nope, this is a case of “It’s no longer classified information because the president declassified it”. POTUS had the power to declassify any information, the only people who will find this offensive are the people who actually have a monicum of independent thought.


Kinja'd!!! HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 21:46

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Trumpgate2017


Kinja'd!!! 190octane > whoarder is tellurium
05/15/2017 at 21:53

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I think you have politicians who have recognized that our country has had some major faults over its 241 year history. I think you’ll notice that one side is willing to point out mistakes we have made to try and learn from them, and the other side calls that side unpatriotic.

http://www.heritage.org/europe/report/barack-obamas-top-10-apologies-how-the-president-has-humiliated-superpower

That being said, just because we’ve made mistakes in the past doesn’t mean that we should accept Russia meddling in our election. It’s not shocking that they tried, it’s shocking that they succeeded and a large percentage of our population somehow thinks this is okay.

This country is far from perfect, and we have a lot of room for improvement, but so far the world has been better off with the USA than without it.


Kinja'd!!! JR1 > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 22:26

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Pretty sure under the Federal Code 46 503.59 the president can disseminate any classified info he so chooses if the individual has a comparable level of security clearance. I doubt he did anything wrong or out of the ordinary here.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/15/2017 at 22:41

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Stalputin is playing Cheetolini like a fiddle (or piano). Is he an unwitting Manchurian candidate or an unwitting sleeper agent? Unwitting will always be present.

Of course, he does know more than the generals, maybe we should just trust him, and credible competent men like Bannon, Jefferson Beauregard, Jared, and the rest.


Kinja'd!!! Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/16/2017 at 00:09

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I’d be more interested in articles about this and legit journalism than bullshit obnoxious fluff pieces making much adieu about fucking ice cream scoops. I don’t like Trump but for fuck’s sake the pure amount of noise and nitpicking surrounding the man is just distracting people from the real problems with him to a hilarious degree.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/16/2017 at 01:00

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I agree.

(But the ice cream thing is damn funny though)


Kinja'd!!! Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/16/2017 at 09:45

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I’d have all the ice cream if I was president. To hell with running the country, imma get executive diabeetus.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/16/2017 at 10:32

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Get? If you don’t already have it you’re slacking.


Kinja'd!!! WiscoProud > wiffleballtony
05/16/2017 at 11:15

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I have a coworker who’s very religious and will openly ignore everything Trump does as long as he defunds Planned Parenthood. Its honestly the only thing he cares about. Guy is young too, maybe 30. It blows me away that nothing else matters to him.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > WiscoProud
05/16/2017 at 13:55

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Wow, of all the issues to focus on.


Kinja'd!!! WiscoProud > wiffleballtony
05/16/2017 at 14:00

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I’m honestly flabbergasted every time I argue with him. He genuinely believes he is being persecuted because he can’t impose his religious law on others. When I point out he also yells about the encroachment of “sharia law”, its suddenly different.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > WiscoProud
05/16/2017 at 14:28

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At this point there is no such thing as civil political discourse


Kinja'd!!! WiscoProud > wiffleballtony
05/16/2017 at 14:57

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I will say that we usually have pretty calm discussions for what its worth. We will never agree on anything, but it doesn’t devolve into insults or anything. Although usually one of his idiot friends will jump in at one point or another throwing terms like “leftist” or “libtard” around, and kind of ruins the mood.


Kinja'd!!! wiffleballtony > WiscoProud
05/16/2017 at 15:27

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I pretty much keep my opinions to myself


Kinja'd!!! WiscoProud > wiffleballtony
05/16/2017 at 15:40

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I pick and choose my battles. I enjoy debating, as long as it doesn’t devolve into insults.