"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
05/08/2017 at 21:42 • Filed to: shitposting is best posting, shitposting, nascar, crossovers
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"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
05/08/2017 at 21:42 • Filed to: shitposting is best posting, shitposting, nascar, crossovers | 1
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It’s not going to be long before the compact FWD-based crossover fully replaces the midsize sedan as
the mainstream car
- in fact, for two of the three manufacturers in the Monster Cup, their compact FWD crossovers (the Escape and Equinox) are outselling their midsize FWD sedans (the Fusion and Malibu), as of April 2017 YTD sales. The other manufacturer has predicted that RAV4 sales will overtake Camry sales, although that’s not happened yet.
And, NASCAR has followed market trends - in 1966, phasing “midsize” cars in; in 1981, reacting to downsizing; and, with the death of the midsize coupe through the 1990s into the 2000s, automakers moving to “4-door” bodies.
So, I figure, NASCAR will follow this market trend too... but where will they go with it? Dirt tracks? A support series on asphalt? How long before it appears in the Monster Cup?
And, what’s the powertrain formula? It is NASCAR, so who knows, it could be pushrod V8s driving the rear wheels...
boredalways
> bhtooefr
05/08/2017 at 21:55 |
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Crossovers should replace trucks in the Camping World Truck Series
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bhtooefr
> boredalways
05/08/2017 at 21:58 |
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Well, full-size pickups are still the #1-selling vehicle type in America, so...
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boredalways
> bhtooefr
05/08/2017 at 22:04 |
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But for how long?
4. How. Long?
Best compromise would be to make modern crossover versions of the GMC Envoy XUV to race
ranwhenparked
> bhtooefr
05/08/2017 at 22:09 |
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If they do, it will just be a plastic body shell vaguely resembling the shape of a crossover mounted over the exact same cars they’re already using.
Hammerdown
> bhtooefr
05/09/2017 at 09:44 |
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I doubt you’ll see a change in the next 10 years, but you bring up an interesting point. I think it’d be more likely to see the Xfinity series move to that type of body style if they decide the pony car thing is played out.
Really, this type of move would be driven by the manufacturers. If Toyota or Chevy or Ford push hard enough for it, NASCAR will start working on something. Or, if another manufacturer wants to come into the sport, but only if they can sell a crossover, that might have an impact.
As far as all of the bitching that is done on every thread about NASCAR:
The sport is built on a V8 and live axle. No it’s not the same as a current production car. However, watching 40 stock Impalas run around Talledega at 140 mph for 500 miles would be incredibly boring. NASCAR will never move to a FWD platform. Oval racing at the speeds and length that they run would ruin front tires incredibly quickly. Not using a spec engine opens the door for huge power discrepancies and NASCAR having to use weight penalties or other means to attempt to keep the cars close. Same goes for bodies, suspensions, etc.
No, NASCAR does not race “stock” cars. In reality, it never has. They haven’t followed a “stock” body template since the early 1980s. If you get over it and appreciate it for what it is, it’s some of the best racing you’ll see anywhere, and you can watch a great broadcast from your living room every Sunday. Let’s appreciate what we have.
Sorry for the rant, but I feel better
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bhtooefr
> Hammerdown
05/09/2017 at 10:08 |
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By the same token, “Strictly Stock” included quite a few smaller tracks - including dirt tracks. This helped with slower cars.
And, NASCAR doesn’t use a spec engine, they allow each manufacturer to design their own engine within certain (strict) parameters.
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Hammerdown
> bhtooefr
05/09/2017 at 10:16 |
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Good clarification on the engine. The only “spec” part on a Cup motor that I’m aware of is the ignition box and the throttle body. I believe they are NASCAR supplied but I could be wrong. Obviously restrictor plates are NASCAR supplied at Daytona/Talladega