The Inconvenient True

"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo) 05/01/2017 at 08:20 • Filed to: None

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About the Nissan Juke.

So as some of you know I work at a gas station. The other day a customer came in to exchange two 20 pound propane cylinders. Now most in cars, SUVs, Hatchbacks, even sedans you can easily stand up a 20 pounder in the cargo area. Not in the Juke, as I helped him load the new tanks into his car he laid them flat. Why? Because there wasn’t enough room between the rear seats and rear glass to stand them up. If you’re not familiar with these BBQ grill tanks here’s a diagram.

So the tank is about 1 foot wide, and 1.5 feet tall. And the Juke could not accommodate an item this small. Not only that but laid down they took up all of the “load floor” behind the seats. I’ve said before that my disdain for the Juke was caused by its tiny cargo area, and this experience reaffirmed my rage. Why have a crossover that can’t haul 4 people and a weekends worth of luggage, at hell my little hatchback can do that.

Cash Rewards > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 08:22

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The real problem is the lack of a charcoal grill.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 08:25

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I like to say it’s a crossover that drives like a hatchback, but has the cargo capacity of a coupe.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 08:42

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This is real automotive journalism. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Cash Rewards 05/01/2017 at 08:42

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I really doubt you could fit one in a Juke

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 05/01/2017 at 08:43

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I want a Hatchback, that drives like a coupe, with the cargo capacity of a Crossover.

The Fit almost does it.

Urambo Tauro > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 08:44

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That’s disappointing. Sure, every cargo area will fall short of *something*, but if sportscars are measured by their ability to carry golf equipment, surely a SUV/crossover should be able to handle a small propane tank.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Urambo Tauro 05/01/2017 at 08:45

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Based on that experience I think two golf bags would be a tight fit in the Juke.

pip bip - choose Corrour > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 08:52

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why not just throw them onto the back seat

Ssfancyfresh > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 08:54

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Honestly, I don’t think one of these would fit in the cargo area of my Tahoe with the 3rd row up.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 09:04

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PROPANE CAN’T MELT SHEETMETAL!!!

shop-teacher > Cash Rewards 05/01/2017 at 09:09

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Bah, too much work.

shop-teacher > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 09:11

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That’s pathetic.

Ash78, voting early and often > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 09:21

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Well, since the beginning the Juke has been possibly the least efficient use of space among all small cars. I think people buying it already know that. It ’ s just a lifted Versa with less space and a better engine. And 12 extra headlights.

Ash78, voting early and often > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 09:24

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/bad luck terrorist

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 09:25

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Nope. You have to fold a seat down to fit 2 in.

Cash Rewards > shop-teacher 05/01/2017 at 09:25

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Lies! Use match light

Dave the car guy , still here > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 09:44

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My A3 sportback is more or less a hatchback that drives like a coupe but has only about 20 cu ft cargo area, the Fit is amazing in the way Honda designed the rear seats. The Fit has about 17 cu ft normally but can be configured to about 52 cu ft which is enormous. My wife’s Ford Edge has 32 cu ft normally and seats down goes to 69 cu ft. The fact that the Fit cargo area falls between these numbers is amazing considering the size of the car.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Ssfancyfresh 05/01/2017 at 09:56

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Same thing with my Mazda5, but I rarely use the third row so the cargo area remains a decent size.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Dave the car guy , still here 05/01/2017 at 10:08

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Yeah the Fit almost cheats with its low floor, and tall roof. Not being AWD, and having small tires arealso a huge advantages in the cargo department.  It’s really more of a small van than a hatchback, but boy does my wife hate when I say that.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 05/01/2017 at 10:11

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But a propane tank stood up will shatter the back window of a Juke.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > shop-teacher 05/01/2017 at 10:12

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I thought so too.

Dave the car guy , still here > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 10:42

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One of my daughter’s friends has a Fit and loves it. The girl bought it as her first new car with a real job after college. She just got married and has used it for moving a lot of things. It has a lot of utility built in, but don’t say that to your wife.

spanfucker retire bitch > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 11:06

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Wow. That’s far, far less than my Mazda3. How embarrassing.

shop-teacher > Cash Rewards 05/01/2017 at 11:06

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No.

Turn knob, light fire, drink beverage, done.

shop-teacher > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 05/01/2017 at 11:09

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So it’s the worst of all worlds. Oh well, at least it’s pretty ugly. ;)

BigBlock440 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 11:46

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The Juke is a crossover now? I thought it was just a hatchback.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > BigBlock440 05/01/2017 at 11:51

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Nissan calls it a crossover. https://www.nissanusa.com/suvs

jasmits > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 18:14

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My E36 Compact comes close. It’s a hatchback that drives like a coupe, because it’s actually a coupe. Cargo space is about what you’d expect from a hatchback but I can fit a propane tank..

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > jasmits 05/01/2017 at 18:30

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I would love a ti.

jasmits > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 18:35

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You inherently sacrifice some trunk and back of space to RWD butttt then you have RWD!

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 18:59

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So are all practical hatchbacks. I think my car looks more like a small minivan than a hatchback car...

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > jasmits 05/01/2017 at 19:07

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Which is on my list of “things I need”. My goal is to have three vehicles, that are all awesome versions of Fwd, Rwd, and Awd. Because I like them all and I don’t want to have to choose dammit. Right now I have the AWD and that’s it lol.

jasmits > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 19:13

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I just have two requirements that I like to have in my life, 1. sporty and 2. practical and off-road capable(proper 4WD, with a transfer case and low gears). Preferably the sporty one is also capable enough to be my main driver. Which I think I have covered pretty much as well as I could for my low budget with the 318ti and a 2nd-gen 4Runner. Except I can only have one car at college so the 4Runner gets to be my do-everything

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > jasmits 05/01/2017 at 19:45

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Yeah I think for a time my compromise will be that the RWD will be a small truck. But hey at least I’ll have some RWD in my life, and for weather a small truck can’t handle I have the GVR-4

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 19:53

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At least it’s ugly.

jasmits > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 19:54

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I prefer RWD for the fun one but there are plenty of FWD or AWD vehicles I would also take, I’m not too picky on that front.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > jasmits 05/01/2017 at 19:56

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Yeah, I’m a Honda guy so I have a deeply rooted need for a fun, small, FWD car. And I already have a fun AWD car that isn’t a great utility vehicle since it’s a sedan.

Fleet Nissan GroupDuyck Belgium > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 20:29

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Here we have a saying:”If you want to slam a dog, you will find a bat”

jkm7680 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 20:33

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Cash Rewards > shop-teacher 05/01/2017 at 20:43

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Counterpoint: more time to drink beverages.

Boogieman302 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 22:13

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As a juke owner... I don’t care. I didn’t buy it to haul stuff, and if cargo space is your concern.... Buy an SUV.

How do I cope with a small cargo space? I went out and picked up a cheap Volvo wagon. Problem solved. And yes, that is not a practical fix for most people, but like I said.... Those people should just buy a larger vehicle. That is the whole point in test driving a car before you buy it, to get one that fits your needs.

macshome > BigBlock440 05/01/2017 at 22:23

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It never seemed low enough to just be a hatchback.

BubbaSue > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/01/2017 at 22:30

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Just lower 1 seat. Super easy. I can load a crap ton of stuff in my Juke.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Boogieman302 05/01/2017 at 23:28

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So you have your not fun, not useful car, and you’re old more useful car.

You could have a Miata and a Volvo wagon.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > BubbaSue 05/01/2017 at 23:29

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What if you also need to carry 4 people?

fhrblig > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/02/2017 at 09:48

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That’s a reason we got rid of ours. That and the lack of rear headroom. Kinda sucks when you can’t take your parents or in-laws anywhere. It’s also why I got rid of my Fiat. We don’t have that problem anymore, now that we have an Elantra GT and my Optima.

cesariojpn > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/02/2017 at 10:50

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I want a Hatchback, that drives like a coupe, with the cargo capacity of a Crossover.

Good luck finding one not all riced out.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > cesariojpn 05/02/2017 at 10:59

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I’m more of a 4th gen guy

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/02/2017 at 13:06

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Then you bought the wrong vehicle lol

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Cash Rewards 05/02/2017 at 13:11

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Now let me tell you about the wonders of propane. TASTE THE MEAT NOT THE HEAT.

I do agree that the purist life of charcoal is better, if you have 3 hours to cook every time you want to grill something.

Cash Rewards > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 05/02/2017 at 13:15

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I sell propane, and propane accessories.

Eh, it doesn’t take that long. Get home, start a fire, grab a beer, take the dog and kids out to play, and before you know it you’re ready to go.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Cash Rewards 05/02/2017 at 13:33

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I want to have a grill that just runs 24/7. Have a timer setup to drop in some new charcoal every once in a while to just keep it perpetually burning. That will solve the waiting problem! Although that is probably a fire hazard of some sort.

WyckedWytch > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/03/2017 at 01:55

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I put a hitch on my juke, and bought one of those tray type haulers, with a nice bag to keep road grime off of anything I’m hauling behind the car. Easy.

zacula > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/06/2017 at 23:28

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Why not just fold one side of the rear seat? Or did 4 people come to exchange 1 propane tank?

Also the Juke is not really the crossover for 4 people and their weekend luggage. The Rogue is the one which does that. But you forgo the fun.