Oppo educate me about wheel spacers

"Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras" (jegoingout)
05/01/2017 at 09:45 • Filed to: None

Now before you guys go ahead and say “THE HONDA GUY IS GETTING SPACERS; OH GOD HE’S GONNA SLAM HIS CAR AND GET 43687289672 MM SPACERS CAUSE STANCE NATION YO!! VAPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!”

I’m actually looking at S2000 wheels which have an offset of 55+, I need to be at 45+ to basically avoid the suspension and certain doom. So, I’ve heard mixed things about spacers and I’ve never ever had to use them before. Are spacers a death wish? Is a 10 mm spacer asking for trouble?

Thanks <3

WHY MUST S2K WHEELS HAVE SUCH A HIGH OFFSET?!?!?!?

DISCUSSION (34)

Tripper > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 09:49

Here was my process about this... Google myself into delirium about “scrub radius” trying to decided if a 4mm over all difference would negatively affect my car...Get frustrated...decided to keep stock setup.

CB > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 09:50

THE HONDA GUY IS GETTING SPACERS; OH GOD HE’S GONNA SLAM HIS CAR AND GET 43687289672 MM SPACERS CAUSE STANCE NATION YO!! VAPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > CB
05/01/2017 at 09:55

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Tripper
05/01/2017 at 09:56

Yeah Google has totally screwed me...as it directed me to the 8th gen forum and I got mixed answers there

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > Tripper
05/01/2017 at 09:57

Same process used here, realized I know nothing about suspension and no matter what I’d be doing it wrong.

jimz > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 09:58

spacers are fine so long as you’re doing it to get the correct offset. The key thing to watch out for is to make sure the wheel studs are long enough; you want the nuts to thread in at least one full stud diameter. i.e. if they’re 1/2" studs, the nut should engage at least 1/2" of threads. also make sure they’ll center the wheels properly; most wheels are centered by the hubs and not the lug nuts. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen some dimp put spacers or universal wheels on their car without centering rings, then spend an eternity trying to balance and re-balance the tires/wheels. you can’t balance out an off-center wheel.

Tripper > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 09:58

Honestly you’re probably fine with a small change. My winter wheels for the Audi aren’t exactly the same as the factory wheels (but they’re very close). I’m the type of person that can convince myself that my car will disintegrate over a small mod.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:00

Wouldn’t a 10mm spacer put you to +65?

fhrblig > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:03

I don’t have anything constructive to add, but I thought you’d enjoy some weird, obscure French disco.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Tripper
05/01/2017 at 10:04

From what I have read, a 55mm offset will introduce wheel to strut :(

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > fhrblig
05/01/2017 at 10:05

I love this song

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever
05/01/2017 at 10:05

Uh no? Wait am I wrong?

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > jimz
05/01/2017 at 10:07

Yeah I know that I’ll apparently need hub centric rings

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:08

I might be confusing things, but if the S2K wheels are +55, and the OE Si wheels are +45, a 10mm spacer seems it would be putting you at +65.

Or I’m entirely wrong.

carzcarzcarz > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:17

I don’t know what effect the 10mm would have on your particular car, but that isn’t a huge amount of spacing (I use 25mm when drifting). Just make sure you get hub centric spacers.

Good info on spacers here, and also to see the crazy amount some people use

also Engineering Explained has a good video talking about them too (but not as much real world usage of them as offbeat garage).

duurtlang > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever
05/01/2017 at 10:20

Unless the US system is different than what I’m used to, you’re wrong. The number indicates how far inwards it goes. “ E inpress T iefe” the Germans call it, or how far it’s pressed inwards. The offset is the difference between the center of the wheel and the place where the wheel hits the hub. With a + offset the wheel hub will attach beyond the center of the wheel. The greater the + offset, the further the wheels move inwards.

It’s in German, but you’ll understand:

Kinja'd!!!

Future next gen S2000 owner > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever
05/01/2017 at 10:24

Kinda. The spacer pushes the wheel out. reducing the amount of wheel going inwards from the mounting face.

Kinja'd!!!

Adding the spacer won’t actually change the wheel offset but it will gain 10mm of clearance.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:26

You aren’t wrong but not entirely correct. The spacer won’t change your offset but it will gain clearance. That is probably a better way to say it.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever
05/01/2017 at 10:30

A spacer adds negative offset, not positive.

Think about it like this, positive offset moves the wheel in, negative moves it out. That’s the simplest way to put it.

GUYMANDUDE > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:37

Hub centric rings work if the center bore is larger on the new wheels. 10mm spacers is the size there the hub is burried in the spacer. You will need spacers with hub extenders or a hub extender.

Textured Soy Protein > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:39

I use spacers on the front of my car to get the front of the wheels more flush with the fenders. But my car is a BMW which uses lug bolts instead of wheel studs so all that’s needed is longer bolts, which the spacers came with.

merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:41

Maybe this will help? Good info about spacers nonetheless:

fhrblig > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 10:41

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TheHondaBro > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 11:05

RIIIIIIIICCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEE

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > GUYMANDUDE
05/01/2017 at 11:14

The bore on the S2000 wheels is 70.1mm, the Si is 64.1

So rings wouldn’t work?

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > TheHondaBro
05/01/2017 at 11:15

GO AWAY WITH YOUR STOCK WHEELS

TheHondaBro > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 11:16

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Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > TheHondaBro
05/01/2017 at 11:23

This is why no one likes Honda fans...especially those who are SEAHAWK FANS

Urambo Tauro > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 11:43

When I bought my SN95 Mustang, a previous owner had already put wheel spacers on it to compensate for the backspacing of the S197 wheels that he added. They’re not hub-centric though. They are secured to the hub using traditional tapered lug nuts, which do a good job of centering the wheel. Now that I know more about it, I’m kind of bummed that they didn’t spend a little extra cash on hubcentric ones, but TBH, these haven’t given me any problems so I’m not sure that I really need to go replacing them.

awmaster10 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 11:54

I believe that means it WOULD work. I put 108mm bore wheels on my 100mm hub and used centering rings

GUYMANDUDE > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 12:16

You would need 10mm spacers with hub extenders AND hub centric rings to change it from 64.1 to 70.1.

Hub centric ring fill the gap on the hub.

Hub extenders are needed so you have enough meat on tye hub to center tge wheels

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > GUYMANDUDE
05/01/2017 at 12:23

Thank you!

DasWauto > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
05/01/2017 at 13:09

Aren’t S2000 wheels staggered?

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > DasWauto
05/01/2017 at 13:27

I have the chance to buy 4 fronts, but yes S2000's have 7" fronts ans 8.5" rears