Things I still don't get

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
03/01/2017 at 18:22 • Filed to: None

“85 grand for a Toyota?! Outrageous!”

“Oh, 85 up t0 200 grand for a Range Rover? Well you get what you pay for you see, it being a premium blah blah blah...”

Hell even a sport can crack 112 grand. A SPORT! Does no one else think that the prices Land Rover charges and gets away with are straight crazy?!

Also funny and related. Land Rover will offer a “first edition” Velar for those lucky souls willing to trade additional money for the privilege of being the first to take a risk on a new product from a company with a history of vehicles thats are on the bottom rung of being well screwed together. And what does this exclusive privilege cost? 90 grand.

DISCUSSION (39)

WilliamsSW > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:26

But you get more status! And hopefully service loaners.

not for canada - australian in disguise > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:26

Neither are. Both are specialised vehicles not sold or meant to be sold in high numbers.

TheHondaBro > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:27

A Land Cruiser will pay for itself in no time for each time your Range Rover needs a repair.

duurtlang > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:27

I have no experience with either. Having said that, how do they compare? One is more reliable than the other and both are capable off road. But how do they drive? How do the interiors compare? Other things?

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:28

I got my doors blown off by a brand new Land Cruiser yesterday. Say what you want about losing the I6 and its smoothness/durability, but the new ones haul ass for something their size.

aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:31

cuz that badge

HammerheadFistpunch > duurtlang
03/01/2017 at 18:34

I spent time in a 2017 land cruiser and I would be hard pressed to think of something the interior is lacking in terms of luxury. It may not be as stylish an interior as the RR, but the leather is just as nice, the toys are all there the screens look great. If you need real wood, spend a little more on a lexus and you are still undercuting the range rover by a sizable margin. Its not that the Land Cruiser is lacking as a vehicle in the luxury department.

HammerheadFistpunch > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com
03/01/2017 at 18:34

The way I would describe the acceleration in a 200 series is “deceptive”. it doesn’t feel quick ever, but holy crap am i really doing 90?

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:36

Because Land Rover has spent almost 30 years building the image of the Range Rover, Toyota has not. Same reason Ferrari can charge what they charge for their vehicles that make Range Rover ownership costs look comical.

Same reason the Phaeton failed, nobody wanted a $90 grand VW.

HammerheadFistpunch > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
03/01/2017 at 18:38

I guess the part that gets me is that a BASE range rover with a 340 hp V6 is the same price as a LOADED land cruiser and the land cruiser is “absurdly overpriced!” and the range rover isn’t. I get that the Range Rover is things that a Land Cruiser isn’t, but at a certain point do people just forget what money is?

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:39

Kinja'd!!!

HammerheadFistpunch > not for canada - australian in disguise
03/01/2017 at 18:41

Neither are what?

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:42

Toyota needs to push the LC more. Right now you can buy a used mid-10s LC for around $35k with less than 100k miles. If more people lease new ones, it’d be even cheaper (maybe)!

HammerheadFistpunch > WilliamsSW
03/01/2017 at 18:42

it is a good service model for checking out other vehicles in the JLR catalog.

HammerheadFistpunch > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
03/01/2017 at 18:42

I’ve actually been keeping a keen eye on 200 series prices. Things are looking good for ol HHFP

Milky > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:43

Because this belongs in a $40k truck.

Kinja'd!!!

But it costs luxury car money. I know you pay for the durability but most people dropping $80k on a Range Rover swap them out for something new after 3 years. Dependability just doesn’t matter.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:44

When you’re looking to buy a $100k+ vehicle, money means something different than it does to you and me. A childhood friend of mine married into money and at the wedding I interacted with the family and they wouldn’t blink twice to that kind of money.

Kitty wouldn’t be caught dead in a Toyota at the county club no matter how nice it is.

Edit: The wedding was held at a game reserve owned by one of their friends because theirs was in the midst of a remodel.

HammerheadFistpunch > Milky
03/01/2017 at 18:44

I don’t know if you’ve sat it in one, but the 2017's feel very premium inside. Way more than I was expecting. Those seats are the best things I’ve ever let my butt come to rest on. if you don’t like that, spend an extra 5 for the fancier version.

avalonian > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:45

How soon do you anticipate replacing the current one you have with a new one? Or use the VW buyback cash for a used one now?

Frenchlicker > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
03/01/2017 at 18:46

It also depends on a person’s personality. They can make several million a year but be the type that will drive a twenty year old Buick because they like it and turn around and buy a $60k heated spa pool.

HammerheadFistpunch > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
03/01/2017 at 18:48

I get that whole “upper crust” brand snobbery, I mean just the general public. a story about a 90 grand range rover sport dynamic would be met with lots of positive comments on range rovers, lots of reliability jokes and a maybe a “wait, it costs how much?” here and there.

Post a land cruiser story and 85% of the comments are either about the price, or defending the price.

HammerheadFistpunch > avalonian
03/01/2017 at 18:49

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:51

Because the Japanese have inferior tea

Milky > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:52

I actually didn’t even think about any other Toyotas after I saw the Camry at the Detroit auto show. So no haven’t been in one. But I’d happily drop $5k more for that L badge. Looks like they tried at least.

Kinja'd!!!

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Frenchlicker
03/01/2017 at 18:52

True but then there are people who drop 10 million on a private yatch without batting an eyelid and then it won’t even be the biggest at the Marina.

not for canada - australian in disguise > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:52

Yes.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:53

My dads Tundra is exactly the same way. The 5.7L moves with a lot of grace.

HammerheadFistpunch > For Sweden
03/01/2017 at 18:53

hmmm, most plausible explanation yet.

HammerheadFistpunch > Milky
03/01/2017 at 18:54

next time you are at a Toyota dealer, see if they have one on the lot and ask to sit in it. You’ll be surprised.

HammerheadFistpunch > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
03/01/2017 at 18:55

now see I’ve driven a few tundra’s and they feel pretty snappy off the line in a way the cruiser doesn’t. The cruiser just kind of “arrives” at a speed. maybe its the permanent 4wd.

djmt1 > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:58

In fairness, I doubt Toyota or even Lexus for that matter regularly have their customer complain to them that their vehicles aren’t expensive enough. What a problem to have, huh.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 18:58

Never underestimate how far the image concious will go. They defend the price because they hope to be able to spend that one day on a Range Rover.

The Land Cruisers image is the reason people bitch about it’s price, would be the same if all of a sudden Wranglers started costing upwards of $80k. It’s supposed to be a utility vehicle that is stripped down.

kanadanmajava1 > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 19:05

A Toyota for $85k? Why not, if you can afford a slightly used Century. New ones aren’t currently available (not even in Japan), and $85k wouldn’t have be enough either.

Kinja'd!!!

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 19:14

I could be but the other thing is I never take off quickly in my dad’s truck. What happens is its got so much power that you end up at speed without realizing it. and then pass speed.

shop-teacher > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 19:26

Because it the Land Cruiser shares switchgear with a Camry ... and by that I mean because people are freaking idiots.

WilliamsSW > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 19:50

See? That’s extra value that Toyota doesn’t give you.

wiffleballtony > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 20:15

85 to 200 is just the maintenance

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 21:31

If you care about what you drive, you drive a Land Cruiser. If you care about other people caring about what you drive, you drive a Range Rover.

Vicente Esteve > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2017 at 22:22

Because David Beckham.