Why does HOA hate sticks?

"RacinBob" (racinbob)
02/26/2017 at 17:33 • Filed to: None

In Canada, you can order a Civic Hatch with a stick

In US you can’t

If HOA is going to the effort of offering a stick, why don’t they make the people who want them pay the freight..... Instead they offer manual transmissions only on the cheap LX and Sport models. I don’t get it.

It makes me consider looking at importing a Canadian market touring hatch.....

DISCUSSION (25)

f86sabre > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 17:42

It’s all economics and buyer preference.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 17:43

I read that as Homeowner’s Association. Who from stories I’ve heard would probably find a reason to ban sticks too.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 17:44

You can get one on the Sport Hatchback...

Wacko > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 17:44

Cause Americans got too fat and lazy before us Canadians. We are catching up.

S65 > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 17:48

How hard would a transmission swap be?

PWRandSPD > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 17:50

I looked at the same thing on the configurator the other day and thought the same thing. I was like, well, guess I am not choosing a Honda unless I decide to go for the SI.

404 - User No Longer Available > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 17:54

I can ask the same question to BMW Canada...

In the US the full range of 3-series can be ordered with a manual (320, 330, 340) but in Canada only the 340.

Leon711 > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 18:04

Weird, as they all come from the same factory in the UK, where like most of Europe, a manual is the dominant gearbox choice. The Hatches are British, the Sedans are Canadian built.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
02/26/2017 at 18:24

I don’t have to explain why sticks in the neighborhood are bad things!

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
02/26/2017 at 18:37

The car might roll back and squish someone’s topiary

RacinBob > PWRandSPD
02/26/2017 at 18:38

I am not that fired up about the Si either. Honda has discussed how the Si is now the performance/value oriented car. No LED lights, no power seat to save cost and weight. I am not even sure that it will have a premium stereo. If it doesn’t have a sub-woofer, I may just keep my ‘o7 Si till something excites me.

My hope now is that HOA is reserving the top level manual transmission civic manual hatch as an option for a top level Acura. I doubt it, but I do hope.

RacinBob > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
02/26/2017 at 18:44

I should have been clearer, I meant a Touring Hatch. The Sport is basically LX+. Not even as good as the LX-P which has a sunroof.

What I want is a Hatch, Touring, Stick.

RacinBob > S65
02/26/2017 at 18:46

Probably harder than importing a Candian Spec Touring 6MT? BTW, with the exchange rate, the Canadian Touring is substantially less expensive in US$$.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 18:48

Well you know what they say about sunroofs...

duurtlang > Leon711
02/26/2017 at 18:54

Americans buy off lots and typically don’t order new cars, which limits choice. Especially with Honda, which apparently is still a volume seller over there. Why the Canadians do get it is beyond me though.

duurtlang > 404 - User No Longer Available
02/26/2017 at 18:58

The full range of the 2017 3-series is 316d, 318i, 318d, 318dx, 320i, 320ix, 320d, 320d ed, 320dx, 330e, 330i, 330ix, 330d, 335d, 340i, 340ix, M3.

And that’s just my tiny market.

PWRandSPD > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 19:03

Drives me crazy that if you want a car with options, you can’t get the stick. Part of the reason Mazda got my business when she wanted a new car a few years back. Her entire family drive stick, and from 2012 to now, they have purchased 5 (4 hatches and 1 sedan) Mazda 3's as they could get it with a stick and not be restricted to the most barebones vehicle.

gergey - Wishes vette was Datsun > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
02/26/2017 at 20:58

And won’t someone think of the children!

RacinBob > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
02/26/2017 at 21:12

Actually we’ve had Honda Sunroof civics for 24 years without problems.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > RacinBob
02/26/2017 at 21:31

I know the feeling. In the US you could only get the stick in the Mazda5 for a few years, and then only in the base Sport model, then they discontinued the car in this country altogether. Yet in Canada you can still buy a new one, and you can get a stick in even the top Grand Touring trim, which makes me wish I could just import a new one should my 2012 need replacing. Yeah, this model may be getting a little long in the tooth, but I like it and don’t see a suitable replacement manual minivan on the horizon.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > gergey - Wishes vette was Datsun
02/26/2017 at 22:55

Children aren’t allowed in this development.

gergey - Wishes vette was Datsun > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
02/26/2017 at 23:57

You’re kidding! I know age-restrictions are legally allowable in BC condos because we’re not forbidden to discriminate based on age, but I was under the impression that it was generally illegal in the US?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > gergey - Wishes vette was Datsun
02/27/2017 at 05:55

That was a joke. But I’m sure some HOA has tried that at some point.

pip bip - choose Corrour > RacinBob
02/27/2017 at 06:09

Australia doesn’t offer manual either.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > RacinBob
03/16/2017 at 21:44

What also irks me is that they lock paint colors behind more “premium models”.

Freaking paint colors aren’t allowed on your car because “oh look it’s a base model lol”