Oh, son of a bitch.

"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck) 02/22/2017 at 23:43 • Filed to: DIY? More like gfy.

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I can’t get one lugnut to even budge. I think the guy who put on my tires went a little overboard. Opposuggestions?

Sam > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:45

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The biggest breaker bar you can get your hands on, then put your back into it. You can also slip a pipe over the breaker bar if you need more leverage. You definitely don’t want to use the torque wrench for it, though, as you might destroy the mechanism.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:46

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Penetrating oil, then throw some heat at it. Got my cat loose from the exhaust manifold.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:46

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Soak it with PB blaster over night. Hit it with a 1/2 drive socket in the morning (not that dial torque wrench) with about a 2' cheater bar. Worst that can happen is you shear off the stud, and need to take it to les Swab for a new stud.

JGrabowMSt > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:47

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I hope you’re not using the torque wrench as a breaker bar....

Get a breaker bar. Don’t be shy about it.

I have abused a Husky 18mm wrench to a degree no tool should be abused. I can’t recommend it enough.

I would get a milk crate, for stability, and put your body weight on it. Maybe a couple jumps could get it to break free. If you have a hollow metal pipe, use that for even more leverage.

tkeela > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:47

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1. Breaker bar, not torque wrench

2. A lot of downward pressure.

3. ???

4. PROFIT

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Sam 02/22/2017 at 23:47

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I literally stood and jumped down on that one photographed.

AdverseMartyr > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:49

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Add a 4ft pipe to the breaker.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > JGrabowMSt 02/22/2017 at 23:49

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Re: torque wrench

I was desperate D:

shop-teacher > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:50

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Your torque wrench is now just a wrench until you get it recalibrated.

Textured Soy Protein > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:50

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1. That’s a great way to mess up your torque wrench.

2. Use a real tire iron and not a dinky little spare tire one. I have a Gorilla telescoping lug wrench . I’ve yet to encounter an over-tightened lug that I couldn’t break loose with it (this may also have something to do with the copious amount of weights I lift).

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > shop-teacher 02/22/2017 at 23:50

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Easy come, easy go

Urambo Tauro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:51

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They wouldn’t happen to be left-hand-thread lug nuts, would they?

vicali > JGrabowMSt 02/22/2017 at 23:51

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I have successfully used a 4ft hollow pipe hose-clamped to a 18" breaker on the lower strut bolts of a Subaru.. after my electric impact wrench rattled away at it.. would recommend.

Have also jumped on Chevy tire irons when stuck in the bush- with limited success.

shop-teacher > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:51

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Get an actual breaker bar, put a long pipe over the end of it. Never use a torque wrench like that, you monster!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Urambo Tauro 02/22/2017 at 23:51

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You are a bad person

E90M3 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:52

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Gotta give it some more d.

Urambo Tauro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:52

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Apparently it’s a thing. I don’t know which cars had them, though.

Sam > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:53

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More leverage then, find a pipe.

Matsayz > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:54

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Fire.

Nibby > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:54

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Nothing > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:56

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Before I bought a breaker bar, I had lugs I couldn’t get off my old Volvo wagon. Discount Tire rotates tires free of charge, so I went there and had them rotate. Went home, removed the wheels, worked on the brakes as planned. That’s assuming you can drive the car somewhere.

CB > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/22/2017 at 23:58

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Buy a new Tercel.

Urambo Tauro > tkeela 02/23/2017 at 00:00

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So long as you’re careful not to throw your back out, I find that UPward pressure works really well. That way, you can brace yourself against the floor/ground and pull instead of being limited to just body weight.

DipodomysDeserti > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 00:01

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You got a torch? Heat her up. You spray any PB Blast on it? If so watch your dick when applying the flame. If all else fails grab a long length of pipe from the hardware store. If that doesn’t work than it’s impact wrench time.

vicali > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 02/23/2017 at 00:04

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The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Urambo Tauro 02/23/2017 at 00:04

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The Porsche Carrera GT does.

vicali > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 00:05

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Does no one carry a good old star wheel wrench anymore?

The Snowman > Urambo Tauro 02/23/2017 at 00:10

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Scout 80s do as well.

Spaceball-Two > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 00:10

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Heat.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > vicali 02/23/2017 at 00:15

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Would technically work in that situation, but I can’t advocate it.

wafflesnfalafel > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 00:23

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Perfect excuse to go buy some more tools. (I ended up getting a breaker bar after some air gun jockey at the dealer tightened my drain plug way too much at the 90,000 service....)

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 00:25

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You sicken me, lobster.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 00:40

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1) PB blaster. IME works much better than WD-40

2) Proper breaker bar (pretty cheap at parts stores)

3) PVC pipe that’s, at least, over a foot longer than your wrench.

Tazio, Count Fouroff > Urambo Tauro 02/23/2017 at 00:43

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Alfa Romeos (pre-Fiat anyway)

Tazio, Count Fouroff > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 00:51

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If you’re using a loooong pipe as a wrench/lever-arm extender, which has worked well in my experience, maybe consider getting an impact socket * that fits your 1/2 drive breaker bar or ratchet and using it like a regular socket?

*ask me how I know...

Sili-Kroil good too

Give it Hell man!

Tristan > Urambo Tauro 02/23/2017 at 01:03

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My Studebaker has them.

Birddog > Urambo Tauro 02/23/2017 at 01:03

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Many old Mopars.

just-a-scratch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 01:09

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Lefty lugs are a real problem. They are often enough onstalled on only one side of a vehicle. No, I’m not joking. Someone really thought it was a good idea.

just-a-scratch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 01:10

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Could you borow in impact wrench? Often enough they can do the job my little arms can’t.

torque > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 01:46

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Everybody replied w/all the reasonable diy suggestions either individually or in combination... (lube, breaker bar, breaker bar + cheater bar, heat) or take it to a shop and have them apply an air gun

If you want to diy & none of the above diy solutions works, a torque multiplier lug nut wrench should certainly work as that is precisely what this tool was designed to do, just designed to do so for removing lug nuts from large commercial vehicles.

Overkill & speciality tool you say? Uh you’re damn right on both accounts, although most of them seem rather modestly priced. Here’s a link to one on Amazon for reference

https://www.amazon.com/Altocraft-USA-WR-LS58-Torque-Multiplier/dp/B01FS8J3EW/ref=sr_1_6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1487831528&sr=1-6&keywords=semi+tire+changing+tools

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 05:23

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Well, nothing for it now, you’re just going to have to sell the Tercel...

Echo51 > Sam 02/23/2017 at 06:03

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This on all the levels. Had a front axle that me and my friend didn’t think to check the threads on pre-mounting, having it all together we realize the thread on the axle is damaged and it always pulls the nut crooked... well, it’s already on so no returns, and the car kinda needed to be done now... bring out the 3/4" breaker bar and the 6 feet of pipe and get making new threads

Echo51 > vicali 02/23/2017 at 06:05

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I’ve broken or twisted a few stock tire irons trying to get wheels off at the wrecking yard, they’re sadly not that useful if stuff is on good and tight :/

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 06:10

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Breaker bar. Do yourself a favour and get one that ratchets. I also find that impact sockets are generally made to a slightly better standard and fit better, so are less likely to round off a stuck nut. Actually, air tools are very useful...

Master Cylinder > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 06:31

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Heat, penetrating oil, a big breaker bar, and plenty of cussin’ oughta get you set right.

jimz > Urambo Tauro 02/23/2017 at 06:52

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I had an ‘84 F-250, and it had left hand thread lugs on one wheel.

One wheel.

jimz > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 06:58

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strong breaker bar and a length of pipe. I had tires put on my SRT-4, and the idiot who did it must have been cranking down on the lugs with an impact gun for 20 minutes. trying to get the wheel off, I broke the factory lug wrench, broke a 4-way wrench, and bent another lug wrench. in the end, I had to use a breaker bar and 5' length of pipe to get them loose.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 07:33

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Stand on that mo’.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 08:13

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Turn it the other way.

TorqueToYield > Textured Soy Protein 02/23/2017 at 08:59

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Telescoping lug wrenches for the win. I keep a cheap Walmart one in my trunk after the monkeys at the last garage I took it to way over torqued the lug nuts and I couldn’t change a tire.

Pixel > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 09:42

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1) Get a proper breaker bar.

2) get a 6'+ black iron pipe in a size that slips over the breaker bar.

3) apply the principal of leverage.

(optional if it still doesn’t budge)

4) drive forward until the breaker bar rotates around and touches the ground.

5) continue to drive forward. You will break the nut loose, break the stud, break the breaker bar, or end up with on corner of your car perched on the end of a breaker bar.

6) take a picture, regardless of outcome.

Related, when I still lived at my parents’ house, there was a 10' long piece of black-iron pipe in the garage. It was essentially my nuclear option for removing stuck fasteners. I’d slip it over the ratchet or breaker bar, walk to the other end, apply light pressure, and something would always break loose. Sometimes the nut turned. Sometime the bolt sheared. In one memorable instance, the steel panel around the weld-nut just tore out.

crowmolly > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 09:44

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Get a cheater bar on the wrench, get it horizontal, and pull upwards. Don’t jump up and down on it, you can probably create more force pulling.

arl > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 10:43

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Impact Wrench?

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCF899HB-Brushless-Torque-Impact/dp/B00WTQW7JA/ref=sr_1_11?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1487864566&sr=1-11&keywords=cordless+impact+wrench

Die-Trying > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 12:50

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if you dont have a section of pipe to cheat with, and you are set on using the torque wrench, sometimes, when i dont have enough pull, or i dont have the room for a cheater, i have used car jacks, on the end of the ratchet(to do the heavy lift).

i would recommend getting a good 4 way though.

or you can shock the nut........ lift the tire so that it spins free, with the wrench on the nut, give the tire a slight turn....... clockwise, and then give the wrench a sudden yank.............

Pistol Whipped Cream > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 14:28

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i’m late to the party but if you have a floor jack i use the handle of it and slip it over my wrench.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 15:12

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Down to Harbor Freight, buy a compressor, air hose, and impact gun, come back and set it up and fire away at it.

#ReasonsToHaveAirTools

JGrabowMSt > vicali 02/23/2017 at 19:07

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I have an amazon special 1/2" drive, 36" long breaker bar. I got impact sockets just for what I specifically need handy, wheel hub nut, lug nuts, handful of other things. PB Blaster, Seafoam and a few choice words have done wonders for me in the past. Still unsure which of those three is most effective though, I like to believe it’s my mastery of the english language because nothing can resist the charm of a well-spoken man, right?

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/23/2017 at 21:36

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I would only say heat if you plan on replacing the stud.