Government and the Media

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 02/19/2017 at 15:49 • Filed to: None

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What did Thomas Jefferson say about government and the press? Let’s see. This is an excerpt from a letter Jefferson wrote from Paris to !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! in 1787.

the basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. ( !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! )

For Sweden > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 15:54

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-Thomas Jefferson

TheBimmerGuyWhoNowOwnsAChevy > For Sweden 02/19/2017 at 15:56

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“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.” -Abraham Lincoln, 1305

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 15:59

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Was that before or after every media outlet in the world told stories strictly from their lean on the political spectrum? No news is just the facts anymore.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 16:02

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“Dating a woman with blue hair and a bifurcated tongue is a bad idea.”

-John Hancock, 1506

My bird IS the word > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 16:05

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And then William Randolph Hearst had to ruin it for everyone.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 16:10

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America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. — Eleanor Roosevelt

fintail > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 02/19/2017 at 16:12

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Certainly before the idea of “alternative facts”, offshore-based social media trolls, and outlets like Breitbart.

Klaus Schmoll > For Sweden 02/19/2017 at 16:12

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Since we are discussing former presidents, I learned something new about honest Abe today while grading papers.

Chariotoflove > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 02/19/2017 at 16:13

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The media was never unbiased. That’s a myth. It’s just that today, they don’t even have the good grace to be embarrassed about it.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Klaus Schmoll 02/19/2017 at 16:15

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His parents are turkey?

For Sweden > Klaus Schmoll 02/19/2017 at 16:16

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Fact: it’s better to have a mustache and no beard than no mustache and a beard

Klaus Schmoll > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 02/19/2017 at 16:19

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Rare family picture of him and his father.

Xyl0c41n3 > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 16:48

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Came to see a bunch of BS comments about how biased the media is, and was predictably disappointed to find them.

This is why education is important. Because then people wouldn’t be decrying an educational resource and institution — the only profession enshrined in the Constitution — as the “real” evil.

DipodomysDeserti > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 02/19/2017 at 17:10

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If you’re educated, then the bias is apparent and irrelevant. As the US is showing, you can’t have a lasting democracy without an educated society. Everyone and everything has bias. The people that complain most about media bias are those too uneducated to know what the facts are. That’s why Trump said he loves the uneducated. They’re pissed when someone else’s narrative doesn’t fit their own, but uneducated as to what is actually going on. Easy pickens for a populist like Trump.

09GT - now boosted > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 19:11

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I’m currently reading a book about Aaron Burr/Alexander Hamilton, and when Jefferson was president he did his best to suppress the opposition’s view in the press, so his idealism seemed to have faded.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > ttyymmnn 02/19/2017 at 22:03

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a good book is Bad News by Tom Fenton. To sum it up 24 hour news, and corporate bean counters killed news. 24 hour news which filled it was tabloid crap (kardasians, OJ, ___dead white girl) and bean counters who closed all the foreign offices and fired the journalists. ever wonder why they repeat the same 6 facts? because they have no one to dig any deeper.  

I think the biggest disservice is on how they’ll put up an “expert” instead of calling out the BS when BS is due.

They sat on their hands and instead of factchecking and calling out his lies they kept giving him air time, thinking “this will be a good show”.