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"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
12/13/2017 at 11:48 • Filed to: None

...and some people spend their time on this. SMH

Does this animal look like it wants a tofu burger?!

DISCUSSION (40)

crowmolly > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 11:56

Is that from The Onion?

I was under the impression that dogs and cats cannot go Vegan.

OPPOsaurus WRX > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 11:58

thats what i look like too when offered a tofu patty. and please dont call it a burger. BURGER HAVE MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > crowmolly
12/13/2017 at 12:03

No... no, it is not.

That would be the correct impression, but that doesn’t stop some people...

Textured Soy Protein > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 12:04

My wife and I no longer eat meat but still feed our cats meat. I don’t have a good way to resolve the ethics of whether it is truly acceptable for someone who does not eat meat to house and feed cute fuzzy little predators, but we love our fuzzy little predators so we feed them what they need to be fed. Cats and dogs are carnivores, not omnivores, and denying them meat is much worse for them than it is for us omnivore humans who choose to not eat meat on ethical grounds.

crowmolly > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 12:13

I’d also contend that forcing one’s dietary/religious beliefs on an animal that would follow another path in a natural setting is also inhumane. They can’t tell you it’s not what they want.

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 12:14

My wife’s former (lunatic) boss is a vegan and has his Golden Retriever on a vegan diet. That poor dog is so incredibly skinny, there’s no way this is a good idea.

WilliamsSW > crowmolly
12/13/2017 at 12:17

It amounts to rejecting science basically...

Steve in Manhattan > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 12:18

Was a vegan for 6 months and a vegetarian for 7 years. Give the dogs what they want and need.

Ash78, voting early and often > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 12:23

I started to read a manuscript of The Carnivore’s Dilemma but it was totally illegible. Dogs don’t even know what they want!

Quadradeuce > crowmolly
12/13/2017 at 12:39

Cats cannot go vegan, but I’ve heard that dogs can. However, dogs are clearly carnivores, so, you know, science and all that.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > crowmolly
12/13/2017 at 12:42

It’s essentially dietary bestiality, and should be illegal.

(Disclaimer: The statement above is meant as a humorous one. Do not take literally)

gettingoldercarguy > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 13:09

Where’s the source for this article and a link for the article quoted?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/12/12/shelter-dogs-could-go-vegan-in-los-angeles/?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.bca3e2565c0a

diplodicus > Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz)
12/13/2017 at 13:14

Honestly I’d call the sheriff.

diplodicus > Textured Soy Protein
12/13/2017 at 13:16

I bet if you put your cats on a vegan diet they would just start killing. Unless they’re declawed.

Textured Soy Protein > diplodicus
12/13/2017 at 13:18

Our cats have all their claws, because declawing cats isn’t nice.

gettingoldercarguy > gettingoldercarguy
12/13/2017 at 13:20

Just read this on wapo. No vet had been found to universally accept this. Maybe if dogs had an intestine for processing vegetables as well as humans I could get behind it.

“Prupas said he’d consulted three clinical nutritionists at veterinary medical schools, one shelter medicine specialist and a veterinary toxicologist who works with a pet food company. None endorsed vegan dog diets, he testified.”

I understand the vegan movement, but don’t be cruel to animals to try to make up for human fuck ups.

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 13:30

My dog would probably starve if I tried to feed him a vegan diet. He got a taste of my cat’s wet food and is now on a partial hunger strike thinking I’m going to start feeding it to him.

My cat would kill my whole family if I restricted his meat intake. Bastard just killed a bird in my backyard today.

jimz > crowmolly
12/13/2017 at 13:34

dogs shouldn’t, but they can make use of some forms of vegetable nutrition. but they still need a large portion of protein in their diets, which should come from meat sources.

cats are obligate carnivores, because there are nutrients they can’t synthesize themselves and must get it from meat sources. Plus, they really need to eat a whole-animal (or nutritionally similar) diet because some of the nutrients they need come from their prey’s organs. and- yes- the contents of their guts.

those kinds of capital-V vegans irritate the hell out of me. It’s one thing if that’s how you want to live your life, but the ones who are constantly proselytizing and trying to force their carnivorous pets to be vegan too can take a flying leap.

Funktheduck > diplodicus
12/13/2017 at 13:36

If you put a cat on a vegan diet, they will die. They require certain nutrients only found in meat.

Funktheduck > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 13:40

Vegan diets for dogs are technically possible but very difficult to give them the proper nutrition. Same with the BARF diet.

Making cats go vegan will kill them. Cats need meat as a primary source of food (and water).

diplodicus > Funktheduck
12/13/2017 at 13:40

I get that. That’s why I said they would just start killing, because that’s what cats do for food. Even my fed cats killed birds and mice for shits and giggles.

TractorPillow > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 13:49

If my dogs had a choice they’d love a vegan diet...of peanut butter and popcorn. If there was a nice steak and a bowl of popcorn they’d go for the popcorn.

jimz > Funktheduck
12/13/2017 at 13:49

there was a comedian I heard on SiriusXM some time ago who did a bit about a ditzy roommate and how she was going to feed her cat a vegan diet. He said “I think we call that ‘starving the fucker!’”

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > TractorPillow
12/13/2017 at 14:00

Haha! People food!!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti
12/13/2017 at 14:01

Haha - just give me the good stuff, dammit!

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 14:03

I can’t even.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > gettingoldercarguy
12/13/2017 at 14:07

Exactly.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
12/13/2017 at 14:22

It’s best not to try.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz)
12/13/2017 at 14:36

Poor pup...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Textured Soy Protein
12/13/2017 at 14:45

Good on y’all.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > diplodicus
12/13/2017 at 14:47

I assume you’ve seen The Oatmeal’s cat MURDER calendar.

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 14:49

Yeah, but otherwise she’s a typical healthy, playful, loving Golden. When he would bring her to the office, when my wife worked there - she’d always have meat based treats from when she’d bring our dogs to the office - she would always give the dog all her treats over the course of a day.

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > diplodicus
12/13/2017 at 14:50

Believe me, we and others thought about, but she is an otherwise well cared for, healthy, playful, loving Golden.

CaptDale - is secretly British > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 19:00

WHAT THE FUCK!?

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/13/2017 at 22:16

Honestly, dogs can thrive on a meatless diet. You just have to make sure they get enough protein and iron. However, I really can’t see that being done in a shelter. I would expect a diet of mostly corn-based kibbles there.

Now, cats, however, absolutely cannot live on a meatless diet. While dogs are omnivores, cats are well and true carnivores.

pip bip - choose Corrour > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/14/2017 at 06:42

meat is part of a balanced diet.

take meat out and it is no longer balanced.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Textured Soy Protein
12/14/2017 at 22:55

the pet food is probably cuts that would end up in a landfill

LongbowMkII > gettingoldercarguy
12/18/2017 at 10:14

frankly, we’re not even good at processing most plant matter

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/18/2017 at 10:45

Well, since the CDC is now banned from using the terms “science-based,” and “evidence-based,” it makes sense to do things just based on how people feel.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection
12/18/2017 at 11:05

Due to seat-of-the-pants-based findings, all speed limit laws are hereby rescinded.