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"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale) 10/26/2017 at 13:37 • Filed to: Canon 60D

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If any of you Oppos have any ideas, I would appreciate them.

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random001 > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 13:49

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Well...ok. Did you clean everything?

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 13:58

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Are you using any filters in post processing? Are you jacking up the color saturation? Are you adding any sharpness? Are you sharpening for screen? Have you checked to see if you camera is front or back focusing ? It’s also my understanding that camera bodies and lenses can be calibrated. I shoot regularly with a 20D/Tamron 17-50 and a 50D/Tamron 70-200 and have no significant sharpness issues. Which is to say that images are soft when I expect them to be and sharp when I expect them to be, based on camera settings and conditions.

CaptDale - is secretly British > random001 10/26/2017 at 13:58

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Yes, usually quite thoroughly.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/26/2017 at 14:02

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No I rarely need to do much in editing to get the photo where I want it. The 60D can not be consumer calibrated and I am not sure about the lenses. Maybe I just had a bad day out last time I took the camera out. I will need to go out again and give it another go.

random001 > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 14:16

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Figured. Is there some compression going on when you edit? Perhaps the screen on your Macbook just isn’t good enough...

That last part is not true. Some setting in lightroom? Do you have the camera saving a JPEG and RAW?

CaptDale - is secretly British > random001 10/26/2017 at 14:32

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Lightroom shouldn’t be doing anything funky to the images... and maybe my computer is just getting to old?

No just RAW photos. No reason to have both.

random001 > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 14:34

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Well, lightroom might be doing something. If the computer is old, running out of RAM, it could be compressing the image. I don’t know. I make our Nikon save JPG and RAW, just in case. I do all my photo editing in MATLAB, anyway...

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 14:57

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Can you provide EXIF data for a couple of the photos? That might help.

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 15:00

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Having a jpg with the raw gives you a point of reference when editing.

Lokiparts > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 15:01

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Honestly your photos look really good. I mean we’re all our own worst critics, right?

But I was also looking at your comments on your other post and judging by the list of lenses that you were shooting with, it may just be time to invest in some better glass. I am genuinely not picking on your equipment, but the lenses you listed are honestly pretty entry level and some are fairly old.

I mean, I’m no professional, and I don’t have a ton of money invested in my camera equipment either, but I have still easily spent more on individual lenses than I did on my actual camera body.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Lokiparts 10/26/2017 at 15:09

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Thank you.

Yeah I have been thinking of needing better glass too. It has just been glass or car parts and lately car parts have been more important.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/26/2017 at 15:10

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Hmmm.... I guess. I usually just make a duplicate in LR of the ones I want to edit so I have a secondary that is original.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/26/2017 at 15:12

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Not with me at work.

Lokiparts > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 15:23

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I hear that! Honestly the only reason I ever even managed to get into photography was back when I sold one of my old cars. At the time it was just extra money. I could have done the smart thing and put it on the new car’s loan, but the payments were easy so I just splurged and rolled most of what I got from the sale of that car into a entry level DSLR kit... and it’s just been all downhill from there.

Also I used to throw all of my free money at my cars, but now that I have a bunch of kids I just don’t have the time to mess with them much anymore. So instead the money I was throwing at cars I now save up for camera goodies... which I then use to take pictures of the kids... It’s a vicious cycle really.

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 16:06

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That’s an unnecessary duplication. All LR does is create a set of instructions to process the photo when you export it. You can always revert to the original at any time.

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 16:07

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When I get back to my hotel I’ll look and see if the data is still with the photos. Can’t do that on my phone.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/26/2017 at 16:21

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I don’t know if it will be, but ok

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/26/2017 at 16:22

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I know, but then I can edit one a different way if I want an compare two edits.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Lokiparts 10/26/2017 at 16:30

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Lol yeah I got into photography big in high school. Had a field camera and a medium format. Film is still my passion, but until I can set up a dark room at home, then digital it is.

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 18:49

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I think there may be a way to save a set of edits, but I’m still learning how to use it.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/26/2017 at 19:06

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There probably is, but I don’t mind having two of the same photo.

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 19:07

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Hey, CaptDale. I pulled the EXIF data from this shot in PS Elements and this is what I see in the numbers.

Two things jump out at me. The first is the super small aperture (f/22). The second is the super slow exposure (1/40 sec). It’s going to be tough to hand-hold a camera less than 1/60 and get a clear shot without IS (there is a formula for hand-holding shutter speeds and focal lengths, but I can’t think of it off the top of my head), unless you are using a tripod and the joke’s on me. Even a heartbeat can jar a shot (just ask a sniper). While it’s generally true that a smaller aperture will get you a sharper photo, there is a point of diminishing returns. I think you will gain more clarity with a faster shutter. So my suggestion would be to open up to about f/9 or f/10, or even f/7.1, then speed the shutter up accordingly. You’ve got tons of DOF in the shot so I don’t think you need to worry about distant objects being soft. Your ISO is also at 100, which is usually fine for outdoors, but a slightly higher setting, like 200, would allow a still faster shutter while still avoiding grain.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/26/2017 at 19:15

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Thanks, yeah I had a tripod around for those. I am aware of the shutter speed at about 60 for hand hold. I never thought about having a bigger aperture for clarity. I guess I could use a higher ISO, I never really think about that much since I am a big film person. Always used to just being stuck with what I have. I should play with that more. Thank you so much for looking into all that for me. I do really appreciate it. I should look at that data more for my own info.

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/26/2017 at 23:15

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My pleasure. I am by no means an expert, and I only know what works well for me and what I do. Something that has gotten lost in all this discussion of f stops and shutter speeds is that that is a really nice photo.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ttyymmnn 10/27/2017 at 11:01

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Yeah, just one of those things I couldn’t think of myself apparently lol.

And thank you. I really enjoyed that drive and most of the photos.