"The Toyota Corolla and Lexus IS ride on the same frame"

"way2blu does a rev update" (way2blu)
10/10/2017 at 18:26 • Filed to: Nitpicking

Overheard in a conversation at my school. Aside from the obvious RWD v FWD and what not, is this true or is he confusing them for the Camry/Avalon platform and the ES? Also aren’t they all unibody?

DISCUSSION (28)

Discerning > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 18:28

Sigh... Not even worth correcting them.

fintail > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 18:30

You heard idiots. Although knowing Toyota, they might share the same cruise control switch.

I’ve heard the Corolla/IS thing before though, I am certain it is because the greenhouse profile is so similar, especially with the upkick near the C-pillar (character!).

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 18:30

Yeah he’s thinking of the ES/Camry. Als the CT/Prius. But none of Lexus’ RWD cars share a platform with a Toyota.

Except that you know they are Toyotas in other markets

WilliamsSW > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 18:30

Well, it’s the same frame in the sense that neither one has one?

way2blu does a rev update > Discerning
10/10/2017 at 18:31

Automotive literacy is all relative so I try not to judge too hard. But still, bleh.

I want a Lexus hot hatchback based on the Corolla iM. 2.0T from the NX and a manual and LSD. Lexus design language would look good on that car I swear...

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 18:32

I watched a guy ask the dealer rep if the Honda version of the new Acura NSX was faster... I couldn’t believe what I had heard for a second, then I looked at the guy again and could just the stupid emanating from his clothes.

way2blu does a rev update > WilliamsSW
10/10/2017 at 18:33

Is the absence of a frame a frame in itself? We need to figure out a context in which to frame this discussion.

way2blu does a rev update > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
10/10/2017 at 18:34

It’s too bad we can’t have RWD entry level Toyotas anymore. I mean yeah there’s the 86 but I want a sports sedan.

way2blu does a rev update > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
10/10/2017 at 18:36

That’s just, ew. Unless the Honda version is VTEC sans hybrid and then maybe we have a deal.

jasmits > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 18:47

Automotive literacy is all relative but having a strong opinion on something you know nothing about is always plain, simple ignorance.

Let me guess, this was one kid trying to tell another that his Corolla is ‘basically a Lexus.’ Oops, strong opinion on something I know nothing about but I’ve heard lines like that way too often.

promoted by the color red > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
10/10/2017 at 18:50

OF COURSE IT’S FASTER BECAUSE JDM WA ZETTAI SUGOI DESU.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > promoted by the color red
10/10/2017 at 18:50

JMDVTECH YOOO

WilliamsSW > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 18:59

What’s your frame of reference here?

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 19:04

RWD COROLLA

Textured Soy Protein > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 19:12

ES = Avalon
GS = Crown
NX = RAV4
RX = Highlander
GX = Land Cruiser Prado
LX = Land Cruiser
CT = Avensis/Scion tC (similar to Corolla but independent rear end)

IS, LS & LC don’t share with any Toyotas.

The RC is a frankenstein of current-gen GS front, previous-gen IS convertible middle, and current-gen IS rear, so it’s 1/3 shared with the Crown.

victor > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
10/10/2017 at 20:21

The ES actually a variant of the Avalon, closer in dimenions, though still on the Toyota K platform with the Camry/Highlander/Sienna, etc

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 20:31

Yeah why do I have to have luxury to get the sport?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
10/10/2017 at 20:37

Because poor people don’t deserve fun, says automakers.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > way2blu does a rev update
10/10/2017 at 20:43

That would be awesome. And no one would buy it.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

wafflesnfalafel > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
10/10/2017 at 21:10

Camaro!

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > wafflesnfalafel
10/10/2017 at 21:12

Mustang

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
10/10/2017 at 21:12

My 25 year old AWD Turbo car disagrees! It even tries to make sure I stay poor

bhtooefr > way2blu does a rev update
10/11/2017 at 00:53

There’s always moving to Japan and buying a Mark X.

bhtooefr > way2blu does a rev update
10/11/2017 at 00:54

So basically you want a CT 200t.

(The CT 200h is basically just a Lexus Auris. And the Corolla iM is an American-market Auris.)

average user > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
10/11/2017 at 05:32

The ES used to be a variant of the Camry back in the late 90s, but i think it is more Avalon now.

LongbowMkII > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
10/12/2017 at 16:14

A Toyota IS200t would be expensive for a small, not particuarly sporty, sedan.

DrDDay > way2blu does a rev update
10/14/2017 at 12:07

Lexus should have put the 300h powertrain from the NX and ES hybrids (and IS hybrid in Europe) into the CT. You now have a psuedo hot hatch that gets more than 40mpg and can be driven as a city car. They also could have put the 2.0t in the car as well. They didn’t have to discontinue the CT, they could have just updated it the interior and put better motors in. They killed that car because the Prius can be had with more power and better options, so it didn’t have a purpose. If they actually cared about sports models, they would have turned the CT into a hot hatch.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > way2blu does a rev update
10/15/2017 at 14:10

I’m sure some FWD/RWD Toyotas share subframe/suspension mounts, as noted in a Hoonigan video about the Formula D Toyota iM, where the RWD conversion is entirely based off factory mounting points.