New jack design

"Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow" (chriskf) 01/25/2017 at 21:55 • Filed to: None

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Pretty cool idea for people who aren’t lifting more than one corner at a time

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/25/2017 at 22:23

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Yup. Definitely a “Why didn’t I think of that?” design.

I may have to look into getting one. Should still work with the poly grommets everyone uses on their VWs to keep the pinch welds from getting buggered too.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 01/25/2017 at 22:26

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The pinch welds on my FR-S are already really screwed up. The cars have very weak ones, which kinda sucks. Oh well. Rusty rockers here I come!

Orange Exige > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/25/2017 at 22:28

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Wow that’s genius! No kidding about the whole ‘why didn’t I think of that’ thing. Would definitely be a nice convenience if one was on the market for a jack.

How many Oppos are lifting more than one corner at a time? Am I in a minority I had no idea about? I guess if you’re lucky, your car could have an accessible jacking point in the front or rear center and get two wheels up at once but is that common? I’ve prolly traveled miles just walking around my car jacking it up, going to get the jack stands, walking around, repeating, then lowering it all down at the end. God forbid I had to max out the jack stands, I’m walking back and forth lifting it and lowering it side-by-side - that’s like a quarter mile in itself!

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Orange Exige 01/25/2017 at 22:30

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I’d imagine most are still lifting one at a time. I lift my FR-S from the front crossmember or diff to get two in the air at once. I used to do it one wheel at a time, but my pinch welds have gotten super messed up now.

shop-teacher > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/25/2017 at 22:32

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Very cool idea. Too whimpy for the vehicles I work on though.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > Orange Exige 01/25/2017 at 22:47

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I am usually lifting more than one corner at a time. My father got a quickjack, it takes longer to set up than using a traditional jack + jack stands, but it’s infinitely easier to lower, and you can move it from the low position to the high position as needed, which makes mounting and unmounting tires much easier(lift to lower setting, remove tires, then lift to high setting to do work, then lower back to lower setting to remount tires). It also picks the car up higher than a jack stand would, and it’s more stable.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/25/2017 at 22:50

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I don’t understand why more cars don’t use jack pads like BMW’s have. It makes lifting so much easier. I mean I get pinching pennies and all, but it can’t add more than a dollar or two to the car’s bottom line.

The e36's were even better because you could get an adapter to allow you to lift the car without having to get the jack under it.

MonkeePuzzle > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/25/2017 at 23:04

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I dont get it, why cant I use this if I am raising all corners?

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Orange Exige 01/26/2017 at 01:12

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I was thinking lately that I could get a steel rectangular beam to go in between frame rails and then slide my jackstands underneath that. I could then do both front wheels at once and I’d get 2 extra inches of life.

McMike > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 01/26/2017 at 05:17

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Ooooh, I need one of those adapters for the van.

They make them for high-lift jacks, so they must exist for floor jacks.

McMike > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/26/2017 at 05:18

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I made this to deal with pinch welds.

facw > MonkeePuzzle 01/26/2017 at 05:35

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I think he’s saying that there’s no benefit if you lift two wheels at once (from a front or rear jack point), since the jack stand win’t go where the jack goes.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 01/26/2017 at 08:22

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That’s pretty awesome

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > MonkeePuzzle 01/26/2017 at 08:23

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What facw said.

Thomas Donohue > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/26/2017 at 08:26

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A variation of the Jackpoint stands that use a regular jack to lift, then and you slide in the stand at the same time. But these are only a single height.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Thomas Donohue 01/26/2017 at 08:29

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That’s pretty sweet too, but the one height option could suck for some jobs/cars.

diplodicus > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/26/2017 at 08:56

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Where can I buy this? I get nothing relevant googling.

MonkeePuzzle > facw 01/26/2017 at 09:14

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right, ok. yeah I rarely ever do it that way. I usually go one corner at a time, and inconveniently have to find two jack point for each corner one for the jack and one for the stand.

makes sense now

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > diplodicus 01/26/2017 at 09:21

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Found this site selling them http://www.toolsmithdirect.com/powerbuilt-2-ton-u-jack-floor-jack-with-jackstand-saddle-slot.html

DasWauto > McMike 01/26/2017 at 09:30

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I made something similar, except mine is a hockey puck. Cutting the slot with a grinder created a prodigious amount of smoke but the years taken of my life with that are easily worth the security on the jack.

diplodicus > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/26/2017 at 09:39

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Wish they had a 3ton, I’d be dangerously close to the weight limit with my e39.

McMike > DasWauto 01/26/2017 at 09:46

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I’ve seen the hockey puck mod, and it’s probably better than that block of wood...

I just didn’t have a hockey puck.

Pickup_man > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 01/26/2017 at 09:47

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Why has no one thought of this before?! I need one.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Pickup_man 01/26/2017 at 09:55

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Right?! This is the only site I could find them on http://www.toolsmithdirect.com/powerbuilt-2-ton-u-jack-floor-jack-with-jackstand-saddle-slot.html

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > diplodicus 01/26/2017 at 09:56

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The one benefit of this thing that I could see in your case is that it’d be a lot quicker to get the jack stands underneath, so it wouldn’t be sitting on the jack as long in theory. But I definitely understanding wanting the added insurance of the extra ton rating.

Orange Exige > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 01/26/2017 at 18:25

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I just looked that up and it seems really neat. The mini auto shop jack essentially? Seems super convenient but how do you set it up? Are they light enough to move from the side of the garage under the car, or do you just keep them in the center of the garage and drive over them like shop jacks?

Orange Exige > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 01/26/2017 at 18:37

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I know exactly what you’re talking about because I’ve seen it done online for Minis.

Minis (at least mine and the second gen - idk about newer) have plastic jack points at all four corners (see the black nubs sticking out a little in the pic) and somebody did a custom fab of a steel beam with cutouts for these jack points for the same purpose.

I saw it on North American Motoring before but I couldn’t find it in a quick search now.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Orange Exige 01/26/2017 at 19:19

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I love that you posted a Mini as I’ve spent all day thinking about them. I may even go drive a Cooper S this weekend.

Anyways, yeah for a smaller car, I think it seems relatively safe to use a beam for the whole front. If I figure something out I’ll post it on Oppo.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > Orange Exige 01/26/2017 at 22:00

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They are light enough to be pushed around easily. My dad keeps them in the middle of the parking spot so they are just under center of the car when he doesn’t need them, then slides them out under the jack points when he does need them.

Orange Exige > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 01/27/2017 at 08:11

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Cool! Look forward to seeing an update one day. Maybe even a pic of your new Mini ;)

You won’t be disappointed. (unless it’s got a rattling sunroof that irks you to death... :)

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Orange Exige 01/27/2017 at 14:16

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Well, I just want to drive one.

I like my 944 but I am somewhat tempted by (1) newer cars and (2) quicker cars. A cooper s would be both, and it might actually fit my daughter better but it’s tough to tell(a clubman certainly would). I also think I’d like the size better.

But my attitude towards my 944 is a bit harsh right now because I found an oil leak that’s going to be a bit of a pain to change and it’s dripping on the exhaust, so I’d rather not put it off. I’ll probably fix the gasket and then drive my 944 and be like “oh this car is great”.