![]() 01/12/2017 at 18:54 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
Consider this your trigger warning.
The J-Gate is literally just an old version of an automatic with flappy paddles. It downshifts and holds gears exactly like any automatic with a manual mode, only it’s tied to a ZF transmission that wants to kill itself and it feels better because it’s mechanical. Leave J-Gates alone!
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J-Gate is the worst scandal the automotive world has ever seen
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Also, that screw looking thing to the left of Park is not an exposed fastener . It’s a manual release so you can shift the car into Neutral when it breaks down, because Jag.
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My S-Type loaner had that. Not as bad as the old Mercedes-style squiggly pattern shifter that many cars had for a while, but still dumb.
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I’m convinced that VW would never have tried to cheat on emissions if they didn’t think that they could hide behind the J-Gate scandal
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My LS400 also has one but mine is the exact same size as they square security key.
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is the shift on backwards?
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How did you like the S-Type? I’m beginning to accept that it’s way easier for me to find a cheap 4.0 or 4.2 S-Type that it’ll be to find a XK8 coupe that isn’t priced multiples of Bluebook and doesn’t have an aftermarket leaper drilled into the hood.
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an aftermarket leaper drilled into the hood
Wait, what? Is this really a thing?
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In theory, most of the usage is downshifting from OD. I’ve only once tried running through the gears from a standstill. It resulted in a transmission fault that put the car in limp home mode before it shifted out of first, so I didn’t try that again (in classic Jaguar style, the solution was to pull to the side and turn the car off and on again until it went away).
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Danger Will Robbison, no such thing as a cheap S-type
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It was comfy enough and I liked feeling snooty driving it, but it felt very poorly made and wasn’t great to drive. I probably wouldn’t ever buy one.
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Unfortunately.
http://oppositelock.kinja.com/friendly-reminder-1786557536
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Sadly, yes. I haven’t looked recently, but last time I looked, something like 5 out of 15 XK8s in a 100 mile radius on CarGurus had an aftermarket leaper. There were apparently a lot of people in the early 2000s who did not understand that Jaguar coupes never have hood ornaments.
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Probably true. But at least there are apparently a lot of shared parts with the Lincoln LS.
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Ugh. That is truly tragic.
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no no, I mean like, the actual shift knob looks like its on backwards
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Anyone who doesn’t understand a Jaguar shouldn’t be allowed to own one.
I realize that what I just wrote flies in the face of the modern strategy of chasing market share.
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Oh! I don’t think it can be, because it’s completely symmetrical. But let’s say it is, because I really need an excuse to replace it with a solid walnut one.
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Oh. :(
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when you consider the predecessor, how can’t it be an improvement!
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My wife’s not-a-Toyota has that. My Integra had it... I thought pretty much any auto with a center console shifter had that...
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My shifter does the same thing without all the bends and none of the gimmick
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But who notices when you have driver and passenger ashtrays? That’s class.
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Eh. Not worth it though, too much stuff on the drivetrain grenades.
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With more than two gears, though? I’ve honestly never seen another auto that had more than first and second.
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Ugh. That’s the same thing that keeps scaring me away from X-Type wagons, since they’re all automatics in the U.S.
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XK8 coupes sound so expensive it might be close to the price of a DB7 which is on the same platform
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Yep, that’s why I got the manual.
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Really? My Taco has L(1)-2-3-D. My wife’s car has 2-3-D.
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I thought there were a very small number of manuals originally sold here? Was googling this today and ended up on some forum.
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KBB puts them around $6k for a good example with 100,000 miles, but I don’t think I’ve seen anything past the trouble years (‘97-’00), for less than $10-15k around me. I’ve seen XKRs priced around $20k, which is nuts because that’s last gen XK money.
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Really? That would be amazing, but I doubt I’d find one anyway. Even a nationwide search usually only brings up a handful for sale at any given time.
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i took up smoking cigarettes specifically because i owned this car.
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Nope. In my defense, I’ve never driven a Toyota that wasn’t a manual.
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I’m not sure you even had a choice in the matter.
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Oh, yeah, I couldn’t find one for sale anywhere. I was trying to convince a coworker that he needed one.
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my pulmonogist appreciates that i sold it after 4 years.
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You’re doing god’s work
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Yeah...I’m just getting past the honeymoon phase with my Mom’s new S-Type R and I’m realizing how absolutely appalling the interior is compared to the Vanden Plas which my dad is still stupidly trying to sell now. It is a really unpleasant place to be. The dark poplar wood is ugly as hell, and literally the only real leather is on the seats and wheel, whereas in a Vanden Plas everything is real leather inside. The S-Type blows, 400hp V8 notwithstanding.
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Only in sedan trim, I have one of them.
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This one can:
This one can’t:
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I made a post in my formative years on Opposite asking why people basically ignored what seemed to be an E39 M5 competitor:
http://oppositelock.kinja.com/npocp-jaaaaag-edition-1660698844
Then I drove one and it became painfully obvious.
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I guess I didn’t verify that the wagon on the forum was legal! Ah well, I can scratch that one off the list now.
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Leave Britney alone!
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kill it with fire.
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Sometimes I take having leather literally everything on the S600 for granted. I think it’s broken right now though.
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No. The J gate is bad and the transmission it’s bolted to is bad too. I still would do dark things for an XJR
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I mean, lets be honest, aren’t they always broken?
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For what it’s worth, the transmission in the XJRs is different and apparently much more reliable.
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I have an oil slick and it appears to be pentosin.
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Maybe it’s just a strut, at least those are cheap and easy!
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It’s right under the back of the engine. Only a little bit came out though, so I’m thoroughly confused.
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Back of the engine? That’s not pentosin, there’s no way for it to find its way back that far. You’ve probably got a failed rear main seal like I do.
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No, there’s a few high pressure lines back there. My mechanic pointed out one that looked like it could go at some point.
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Lines aren’t bad either though. I had my primaries done with the pump. I just don’t understand how every part in your system is dissolving at less than 100k miles.
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I’m not sure either lol. I won’t sell it but it does get annoying. It might also be overflow from the windshield washer tank mixing with a bit of oil. It’s weird, because it’s not a puddle, just a bit of a slick. And it hasn’t been getting bigger. It just appeared one night.