Being A Dick to a Billionaire: Not A Great Idea

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/25/2016 at 13:40 • Filed to: None

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ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 13:46

Hey Pete,

Fuck. You.

Hugs and Kisses,

-AdabOfOppo

Jcarr > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 13:48

Should you not be directing your F Yous to Gawker for starting this?

Berang > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 13:52

Yeah, but think of all they money they made with that clickbait.

Oh wait. Where did it go

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Jcarr
05/25/2016 at 13:54

And now, look no further than how the writers on Jalopnik treat their readers to get a feel for Gawker’s true colors.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Berang
05/25/2016 at 13:54

Yup. Picked a fight with a billionaire and got kayoed. Oops.

finn's arm > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 13:55

Peter Thiel. Scary man.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Jcarr
05/25/2016 at 13:59

Gawker should be allowed to cover what they see fit. That is what having freedom of the press is about. Mr. Bollea was well within his rights to sue over his perceived damage. That dispute is what the courts are for.

What I take issue with is Thiel using his wealth (and therefore power) to distort the court system in his favor. That is bullshit. And the chilling effect it has already had on our press is very, very bad news.

Berang > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 13:59

I do find it pretty funny though, if it is true. The idea of using the Hulk as your proxy for some petty internet drama.

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 14:00

Was the money used to bribe the defense’s witnesses? That would explain their disastrous testimony

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 14:04

I guess they can’t grey their way out of this.

LongbowMkII > For Sweden
05/25/2016 at 14:06

AJ does need some money...

Jcarr > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:06

Unless he’s paying the judge and/or jury, how is he distorting the court system?

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:10

I don’t have an issue with it. Gawker publicly outed him as gay before he wanted to come out, so he got them back by helping fund Hogan’s legal team. That's not distorting the courts, it's just regular old revenge.

The Dummy Gummy > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:12

It is sickening you aren’t upset that Gawker posted someone’s private matters and actually call it freedom of the press and then ignore that the courts ruled (without Pete’s involvement) for Gawker to take the video down. But they paraded on posting articles mocking the court by blatantly saying they’d keep the article/video up and planned on ignoring the injunction.

He didn’t use wealth to distort the court system...ffs...He paid for someone else’s lawyer fees, just like Gawkers insurance did for them.

For Sweden > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:14

If Gawker had a case, the plaintiff’s funds wouldn’t matter.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Jcarr
05/25/2016 at 14:21

Because “reasons”.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > The Dummy Gummy
05/25/2016 at 14:22

I made no comment on Gawker’s case. They chose to report. The courts decided it wasn’t news.

Thiel should not be allowed to fund someone else’s case, ENTIRELY UNRELATED TO HIS ISSUE WITH THE MEDIA OUTLET IN QUESTION, just to drain their budget and put them out of business simply because Thiel dislikes how they have reported about him.

That is what I take issue with. The Gawker/Hulk case I have no opinion on.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > For Sweden
05/25/2016 at 14:22

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Jcarr
05/25/2016 at 14:23

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:23

I take your point, but I’d suggest that these items are well within the range of gossip and tabloid; personal stuff. As I understand the Thiel business, Gawker kept after him. Gawker is not WSJ or the NY Times.

Jcarr > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:24

It wouldn’t matter if Gawker had a defensible case.

Pretty nice gloss over of what GM did to Thiel there, btw.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > The Dummy Gummy
05/25/2016 at 14:26

Well said.

The Dummy Gummy > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:28

This happens all the time. Just because it is a billionaire you take issue? So should insurance’s not fund the defense lawyers of Gawker or any major corporation for that matter?

And yes you did comment on the case “Gawker should be allowed to cover what they see fit.”

Get real, your anger is misguided.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
05/25/2016 at 14:28

Agreed, I’m not sure how somebody funding a lawsuit (with what seems a legitimate claim) is distorting the justice system. If anything it’s allowing a plaintive to receive relief against an entity that they’d otherwise not have the resources to go after.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 14:29

TL;DR: Talk shit, get hit.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > The Dummy Gummy
05/25/2016 at 14:30

So the wealthy are simply better than the rest of us then?

If Thiel has an issue with Gawker, then HE should be the one suing them. Not by proxy.

jimz > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:31

Gawker should be allowed to cover what they see fit.

no, freedom of the press is not limitless. Just like freedom of speech is not limitless. That freedom ends where its exercise can cause undue harm.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 14:31

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-huge-…

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > For Sweden
05/25/2016 at 14:32

So Gawker doesn’t have a case and Thiel’s money does matter? So you are saying that Hogan does have a case and Thiel is making sure the case is heard?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:35

@ADabOfOppo: If you were some abjectly poor person living in some inner-city dump, and you were blatantly mistreated by the police, I shouldn’t be allowed to pay your attorney’s bills to take the matter to court? What if rather than Thiel’s billions, some high-powered attorney had taken Hulk Hogan’s case pro bono ?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:46

Poetic justice.

The Dummy Gummy > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 14:52

Then call your state congressman. As of right now you have sided with a shitty tabloid who invaded someone’s privacy.

Gawker didn’t pay for their lawyers either so you should be pissed at them as well.

Like I said before, your anger is severely misguided.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > The Dummy Gummy
05/25/2016 at 15:11

You’re an idiot.

The rich do not deserve the ability to avoid scrutiny just because they are wealthy.

I am not commenting on the merits of the Hogan trial. But letting people like Thiel take down the press just because they disagree with how they are being covered is wrong. That is what is happening here. Put aside your anger at the Hogan trial, and think about what this does to the future of our press if these things continue.

Your boy, BJR > Berang
05/25/2016 at 15:25

He got Hulk Hogan to beat up his bullies and take their lunch money. Pretty much every 80's kid’s fantasy.

The Dummy Gummy > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 15:34

Way to keep it civil. Clearly you don’t understand how the law works or the rules of oPPo.

This does nothing of the sort. Let’s play devils advocate. Let’s say they Gawker published terrible pictures of your mother’s private matters. Let’s say your mother lost her job and had no means to pay for a lawyer. Now let’s say Thiel came to her aid because he disagreed with what happened to you so he funded your case. Do you have an issue with this?

My guess is you say you will because you are so biased on the subject.

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 17:02

The Court agrees with me that the plaintiffs have a case

For Sweden > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 17:02

If Gawker had a winning case, they wouldn’t have to appeal.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > For Sweden
05/25/2016 at 19:00

Gotcha. Me too.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > The Dummy Gummy
05/25/2016 at 19:08

Yes. And it NOTHING to do with bias. Your argument is ENTIRELY biased.

Peter Thiel had no standing in the Hogan trial. Only Hogan did. Hogan should have funded his legal team himself. And paying insurance for a legal defense is entirely different than someone paying your legal fees for you.

Thiel is using the Hogan trial to silence Gawker Media over their coverage of him. Should the rich be allowed to silence their critics using their wealth and the court system? You are saying they should be allowed to do that because you dislike GM so much.

Look, I have never said anything opinionated about the Hogan trial. I have neither endorsed nor criticized GM for their actions. Only that freedom of the press should be allowed, and the courts get to decide when things aren’t newsworthy, based upon who has standing. No one should be injecting money into that system to hijack it for their benefit; which is precisely what Peter Thiel is doing.

As to your scenario, Fuck You for thinking that; pervert. And, yes, I should be obligated to fund my mother’s legal defense.

As far as the rules of Oppo. I’m done being civil. You are a vindictive, short-shighted asshat who hates GM so much you would allow the court system to be overwhlemed with money to benefit those who already have far too much privilege. Fuck off.

Please, by all means have the mods ban me. I’m done with Oppo. You all can eat a dick.

And just for the record. I think what GM did with Hogan was distgusting and Hogan should get some money for it. Not $140 Million though.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > For Sweden
05/25/2016 at 20:21

There is something that Hogan’s legal team did to tweak the suit they were bringing that had the effect of letting Gawker’s insurance off the hook and ensuring that Gawker would have to pay the settlement themselves. Do you understand what that was about?

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 20:36

http://clashtalk.kinja.com/anyone-gonna-t…

You’re not alone. I agree. You’re being a jerk though.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
05/25/2016 at 20:42

Stressed from work and lashed out a bit. No excuse for it though, and I admit to being an asshole.

It bothers me that so many are letting their disdain for GM cloud the larger issues here.

pauljones > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 20:47

I used to care, but then I got...

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/25/2016 at 20:49

Not enough to speak on it, no

Party-vi > For Sweden
05/25/2016 at 20:59

Point to Gryffindor.

For Sweden > Party-vi
05/25/2016 at 21:01

Those guys are a bunch of Squares #RavenclawForever

Dusty Ventures > For Sweden
05/25/2016 at 22:08

Kinja'd!!!

Dusty Ventures > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 22:24

In all seriousness, and not saying I disagree with your points, your personal attacks and insults did cross the line. I get the work stress thing though. Since he may not have seen this post, what say you send an apology to The Dummy Guy for the language?

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Dusty Ventures
05/25/2016 at 22:50

I can do that. Though I would prefer a short term ban. I clearly need a break from the internet.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > The Dummy Gummy
05/25/2016 at 22:57

So...Dusty asked that I apologize. I still vehemently disagree with everything you have said. But I did not need to insult you nor use such foul language.

I won’t apologize for disagreeing with you. But I will say I am sorry for not being civil. Feel free to dismiss my inflammatory post. I’d delete it, but Kinja sucks.

Sorry for being an asshole.

Dusty Ventures > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 22:59

Tell you what. Give him a quick apology in the name of good will and I’ll put you on hiatus for the duration of your choice.

...never thought I’d find myself writing that sentence

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Dusty Ventures
05/25/2016 at 23:03

Already apologized. I’d link it but Kinja mobile.

How about a week. I should be enjoying my holiday weekend rather than arguing on the internet.

Thanks.

Dusty Ventures > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
05/25/2016 at 23:23

You’ve got it. Hope you have a stress-free holiday and good weather. I’ll be at a rally this time next week, but I’m letting the other mods know so they can remove the ban.