Long chassis is long

"4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30" (4muddyfeet) 05/24/2016 at 06:58 • Filed to: Land Rover

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And shiny

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 07:18

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Shiny chassis is shiny :)

Did you get an existing chassis cleaned and galved, or buy a new galved one outright?

If it was the former, how much did the process cost all-in and who did you use? It's an option for my Spit (although an outside one).

Chinny Raccoon > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 05/24/2016 at 07:29

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It’s generally easier to buy a new chassis. My brothers SIIA one was around £1200.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Chinny Raccoon 05/24/2016 at 07:35

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That’s not so much of an option with Spitfires. I don’t think anyone makes new chassis, although you can pick up relatively alright ones for not much money at all. The issue comes with ensuring longevity...

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 05/24/2016 at 07:39

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What’s weird is you can get a brand new Europa chassis for not terribly much.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 05/24/2016 at 07:51

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Interesting. I think it's a supply and demand thing. Why would anyone make a Spitfire chassis when you can still pick up serviceable ones in need of a repaint for £150?

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 07:59

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OMG IT’S SO SHINY!!! Swapping the Series chassis huh?

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 05/24/2016 at 08:05

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1st step of restoration. I've been toying with it for almost 2 years now and the chassis just needs to go. I think it's worth the investment, I'm not selling it so I want it to last!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 05/24/2016 at 08:10

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There are companies making new reinforced chassis for Spitties, but they’re stupid expensive. Better off just reinforcing an eisting one.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 05/24/2016 at 08:13

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Are there? I can't seem to find one. Not that I'd ever use it as good used chassis are so cheap, but it'd be interesting to see what they've done to reinforce it.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 08:16

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Awesome, you should also look into galvanising the bulkhead and door hinges, you’ll never have to worry about rust ever again.

CalzoneGolem > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 08:18

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Much Zinc.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 05/24/2016 at 08:24

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The bulkhead is in fairly good nick, but apparently galvanising can lead to warping, so while it’s good I’ll just maintain it good :) As for the hinges I will just replace them with new ones and get some ss bolts. They're absolutely fine now, but I don't want any rust bleed later, which IMHO come from the bolts more than the bulkhead.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 05/24/2016 at 08:34

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New chassis I’m afraid. What with the extra bits and bobs needed for the MOD vehicles and a couple of ‘simplifying’ additions like a bolt up gearbox crossmember, that lump of shiny steel and zinc up there is about £2.5k all in...

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 08:49

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It does warp a little but nothing terrible, once everything is reassembled it will move back into place. You just have to be a little forceful when putting everything back on. My dad did it on his 109 and that was around 28 years ago.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 09:27

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Ouch :S I was balking at £1700 for electrophoretic coating on mine.

TBH, neither of which pose a viable solution for my Spitfire now that I’ve decided on welding the body to the chassis. I can either get the whole lot done (likely for a much increased price) or do the old paint and waxoyl treatment.

If I galved my chassis I'd need to grind it off in the sections I'm welding, and end up burning it off the inside as I go. I'd have to waxoyl it anyway so it doesn't make much sense...

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 05/24/2016 at 09:36

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What I thought was a new chassis was just a reconditioned and strengthened one, so not all new like I thought. About 3x the price of an all new Europa one :/

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > CalzoneGolem 05/24/2016 at 09:53

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CalzoneGolem > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 10:02

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Columbo was my hero growing up.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 05/24/2016 at 10:02

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Urgh waxoyl. Please don’t remind me any further!

For that cash monies I got a built chassis (it’s not a LR one) from Richards Chassis’, jigged welded lasered galved and re-drilled/tapped, and they’re generally regarded as the best. I sort of went all out so that I get it right and it lasts for years to come.

Would it cost less to get the chassis/frame/monocoque(!) cleaned up and etch primered then painted? Or is that a stupid idea?

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > CalzoneGolem 05/24/2016 at 10:06

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Rightly so. Apart from this bit.

CalzoneGolem > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 10:16

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Whatever, Columbo was Jalop as fuck.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/24/2016 at 10:17

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Good idea TBH. You don’t want to be stripping it back to the chassis in a decade’s time because you need a little bit changed...

Yeah that's the plan. I'm painting the insides of the box sections with weld-through primer to provide some fire-resistant rust-protection in addition to waxoyl. Then every bit that I can reach will be coated in 2-pack etch primer and proper paint, probably with some fancy chassis paint on the underside :)

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > CalzoneGolem 05/24/2016 at 10:19

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Correct

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 05/24/2016 at 10:21

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Spot on