TMW: Nashville drivers edition

"R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet" (r-saldana)
04/27/2016 at 09:32 • Filed to: None

You have to bite your tongue from saying something extremely disrespectful to the retired Vietnam Vet, who has the time to follow you into you office parking lot to say, “You keep driving like that and you’ll get people killed.”

Look dude I’m sorry you got mad I overtook you in the traffic circle and continued to do 50mph on the four lane parkway over the interstate and then didn’t stop at a yield sign (when no traffic was coming) like I suppose you would have liked me too.

This is yet another reason I do not put any self identifying stickers or license plates on my cars.

I took the blue line through the traffic circle left lane to left lane on exit. This is not a very good diagram. I looked for that NASCAR v Rally v Formula 1 traffic circle image from awhile back but could not find it.

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DISCUSSION (67)

Nibby > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 09:38

There’s a traffic circle in my town and half the time people forget you’re supposed to yield to the cars already in the circle.

CalzoneGolem > Nibby
04/27/2016 at 09:40

There’s a traffic circle in my town and half the time people come to complete stop at it for no reason at all.

Nibby > CalzoneGolem
04/27/2016 at 09:45

Kinja'd!!!

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > CalzoneGolem
04/27/2016 at 09:46

Project Manager to Civil Engineer: Put a traffic circle in and all the white Americans lose their damned minds.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Nibby
04/27/2016 at 09:48

I’m not sure yield means anything anymore. I’ve been increasingly noticing people turning left at “yield on green” with people making a right on green. What’s worse, is I’ve been increasingly seeing the people making a right stop to let the people making a left go.

luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 09:49

I take it you are not in one of the 12 Nashvilles in the US?

cazzyodo > Nibby
04/27/2016 at 09:49

There’s a traffic circle in my town and people still try to turn left onto it even though there is a giant, 6x8 ft, arrow pointing right.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 09:51

He’s retired. His only purpose now is to slow people who have shit to do.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 09:54

In my hometown, there’s a double roundabout interchange that looks almost exactly like this:

Kinja'd!!!

It was built maybe 10 years ago now and I remember people losing their collective shits when they realized they didn’t know how to go through a roundabout.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 09:55

Sounds like that could be Franklin by Nissan NA HQ or downtown near Music Row. Not a whole lot of options in Crashville.

Shane MacGowan's Teeth > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 09:56

Pffft. They just put in a diverging diamond near me. I would KILL for just a traffic circle.

This is an interchange that, when used correctly, requires one to temporarily drive on the other side of the road. I haven’t been through it once yet where someone wasn’t going through in the wrong direction.

Urambo Tauro > Bourbon&JellyBeans
04/27/2016 at 09:58

Gee, if only there were ARROWS EVERYWHERE and signs explaining how it all works... /s

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:01

They recently put a roundabout in my town. It’s known as the Circle of Death. No one here can navigate it. It’s two lanes (which honestly seems to cause most all of the confusion)

I literally watched a lady sit and yield for a minute (watching the flow of traffic) and then still turn THE WRONG WAY and nearly take out a pickup truck. My friend got sideswiped because the guy didn’t know how to hold a lane. It now holds a record for the most accidents at an intersection.

DrJohannVegas > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:04

You’re a better person than I. Expertise or reputation in one area does not grant one skills in all areas, and I have no qualms about expressing so.

(Plus, driving is the ultimate venue for the Dunning-Kruger Effect.)

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
04/27/2016 at 10:05

Cool Sprinsga bout a half mile away from Nissan HQ (McKays Mill)

Svend > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:07

I know roundabouts are ingrained into any driver outside the U.S. because they are a recent thing in many parts of the U.S. but how come so many haven’t learnt how they work yet?

Also if that was a two lane roundabout and you overtook someone that’s a silly thing to do, on a three lane roundabout that is okay but still to keep in mind that although the car in lane one may sling shot into lane two after exiting the roundabout.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > DrJohannVegas
04/27/2016 at 10:07

Great now I have to research what that means

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:07

A yield sign does not mean stop, it means yield to on coming traffic. This dude maybe needs to head back to driving school.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:08

Called it. My Fiances mom lives in a historic home right off of McEwen and I was thinking it had to be that one.i thought I had a general idea of all the Nashville Poops but guess not. Oppo meetup this summer?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Svend
04/27/2016 at 10:09

“There was a gap so I went for it” (Daniil Kyvat RBR China GP 2016).

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
04/27/2016 at 10:10

Driving school? Dude went ot Vietnam, he’s seen things and stuff man.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
04/27/2016 at 10:11

Sounds good, look for me in a Blue Disco II or a silver FoST

DrJohannVegas > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:12

The TL;DR: It’s a cognitive bias which drives un- or under-skilled individuals to overestimate their competence with respect to their peers. Also, highly-skilled individuals overestimate the competence of their peers. The former occurs because the self-assessment comes from the same bad data (the unskilledness) as the skill itself. One doesn’t know that one doesn’t know. The latter occurs because skilled individuals don’t perceive the difficulty of their own acts, and assume others have a similarly easy time.

Also, longest TL;DR ever. Sorry.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:14

I’ll even offer up my parents shop since there’s lots of room and I have the key haha. Look for me in my LS400, my parents Green FJ40 on 35" tires, gs300, rx400h, Tundra(with CS Auto graphics), Camry, Es330, or Seqioua. Yeah 8 cars for 4 people... We have a problem. Also since you own a FoST you might know my buddy Morgan with a White FoST. Can be a little much sometimes but good kid.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
04/27/2016 at 10:15

Were you at C&C last month?

Dusty Ventures > Svend
04/27/2016 at 10:17

Here in New England we take after our namesake. We’ve had roundabounds since before we had cars. I can always tell a transplant/visitor from another part of the country when they fail the roundabound test

Ash78, voting early and often > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:19

My general rule is “never overtake someone in an American roundabout.” Also, I would have told the dude that "If it weren’t for swift decisiveness, Hal Moore’s men would all be dead in the mud at Ia Drang." It's always good to have a historically contextual remark ready for these guys :D

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Ash78, voting early and often
04/27/2016 at 10:25

Kinja'd!!!

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 10:26

Yep! I pulled together the Herd of Land Cruisers

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > CalzoneGolem
04/27/2016 at 10:26

Half? Ha that would be nice, try everyone but me

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
04/27/2016 at 10:27

I was the land rover guy

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Ash78, voting early and often
04/27/2016 at 10:47

I only overtake on the inside with great haste. Otherwise you know that fool will want your exit...

I wonder how many decades or centuries it will take for Americans to learn how to properly build and travel through roundabouts.

fennelbreath > Dusty Ventures
04/27/2016 at 10:55

Yup. I had roundabouts nailed long before I could even parallel park.

fennelbreath > Urambo Tauro
04/27/2016 at 10:57

There are! Which is why people slam on the brakes to gawk at the signs.

fennelbreath > Bourbon&JellyBeans
04/27/2016 at 11:00

There’s one something like this in my hometown, and it’s part of a highway entrance/exit and is also near a school, so twice a day is backed up with school buses. It’s a nightmare, even in an area where roundabouts are very common.

It’s also near the DMV, so it was (at least when I was in high school) part of the driving test route if the test administrator was in a nasty mood.

Svend > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 11:03

Doh!

TheRealBicycleBuck > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
04/27/2016 at 11:05

You must live in Louisiana near me.

Svend > Dusty Ventures
04/27/2016 at 11:13

I’ve always been around them (excuse the pun) so I can’t get my head round how people don’t know how they work.

facw > CalzoneGolem
04/27/2016 at 11:25

Only half the time?

In any event, there’s a traffic circle in my town and they put yield signs in it, so it doesn’t actually function as a traffic circle.

facw > Shane MacGowan's Teeth
04/27/2016 at 11:27

But diverging diamonds are efficient. It’s not the intersections fault that people are too dumb to follow signs and line markings.

facw > Dusty Ventures
04/27/2016 at 11:29

Many of the roundabouts in MA are huge rotaries that have fallen out of favor in road design.

Also a disturbing number seem to have traffic lights, defeating the point.

facw > Bourbon&JellyBeans
04/27/2016 at 11:32

Carmel, Indiana has replaced most of their highway interchanges with roundabouts sort of like this (it’s actually just single roundabouts that have been pinched to go over a single bridge in the middle).

facw > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
04/27/2016 at 11:34

So many people seem not to know the difference between stop and yield. And then I have to slam on my brakes because they are stopping for no reason (while I’m looking to the side, and seeing that not only is it safe for them to go, it would be safe for me as if they hadn’t suddenly stopped).

Shane MacGowan's Teeth > facw
04/27/2016 at 11:36

Diverging diamonds in theory are efficient (so are traffic circles). However, when’s the last time you saw one? Putting an incredibly non-intuitive intersection, that actively goes against all the traffic rules you’ve learned and practice every day, on one of the busiest highways in the country, in one of the fastest growing cities in the country, with minimal signage, means that there are always new people who haven’t seen it before, and have no idea what to do. When in doubt, people follow their instincts and basic principles. A basic principle of driving is “stay on the right side of the road”.

I understand that it could be a good thing. I also understand that the real world is not a flow model in a lab. People have to understand intersections to use them efficiently- therefore an oddball type is automatically going to take a hit to both efficiency and safety, unless you can guarantee that everyone encountering it is educated- which is just about impossible.

MGS315 > Svend
04/27/2016 at 11:46

I’m assuming you’re expecting the one pulled by the police is in the red and it’s a one lane exit? If it was a two lane exit and all drivers adhered to correct lane discipline then apart from the wrongful entry indication and lack of exit indication I see nothing wrong with it. I would expect the driver in the left hand lane to use their own lane and then check mirrors and blind spot as usual when changing lanes, just as they would anywhere else when changing lanes.

facw > Shane MacGowan's Teeth
04/27/2016 at 11:53

See the “stay on the right side of the road” thing shouldn’t be a problem though, because you are on what is essentially a one-way street, or divided highway. You need to shape the road intuitively (going over the crosses should feel like going straight as opposed to changing onto the left side), but done right I’m amazed anyone ends up going the wrong way (since it requires turning on another street, probably marked with do not enter and wrong way signs).

Bourbon&JellyBeans > Svend
04/27/2016 at 11:55

The reason is that I could probably count the number of roundabouts I’ve ever driven through in Maryland on two hands. DC has a few more though, but not that many Marylanders drive downtown. In my experience, Virginia doesn't have any more than Maryland.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > facw
04/27/2016 at 11:56

Most of DC’s roundabouts have traffic lights. But we are talking huge mothers of roundabouts. Without them, I'd be a little nervous to go through the roundabouts myself.

Shane MacGowan's Teeth > facw
04/27/2016 at 12:01

Yah no buddy- I’m assuming you don’t have experience with one IRL. It’s a clusterfuck.

Svend > Bourbon&JellyBeans
04/27/2016 at 12:07

Aren’t all forms of roads and road use (or rather, the majority) taught at driving school or by your driving instructor?

Granted not everyone has roundabouts but also not everyone lives in Milton Keynes.

Kinja'd!!!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > TheRealBicycleBuck
04/27/2016 at 12:20

Worse. Florida.

facw > Shane MacGowan's Teeth
04/27/2016 at 12:37

It is true that I think the only one I’ve driven is the I-95/I-695 interchange NE of Baltimore (since partially replaced with a big flyover to make way for toll lanes on I-95.) Of course that being a highway interchange, you can’t mess it up since the two directions cross with bridges rather than with an intersection.

That's gonna leave a mark! > Svend
04/27/2016 at 13:47

There are so very few roundabouts in the US that few people have a chance to get experience with them. They were never mentioned in my drivers training books and still are not in many states. Drivers unaccustomed to them freak when they come to one. Frankly they should do away with them all or put in a lot more, one way or the other. Though I have driven many times in the UK, when I come upon one in the US (like once a year) I forget what I’m supposed to do.

Svend > That's gonna leave a mark!
04/27/2016 at 14:04

Probably a good thing you forget what to do, I think your supposed to go anti-clockwise in the U.S. Lol.

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/27/2016 at 15:08

Dude, you did your thing and he did his thing, America is great that way. Everybody can do their thing.

He thought you did something Foolish. He’s seen the result of foolish behavior in Vietnam.

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > DrJohannVegas
04/27/2016 at 15:09

Dude, you did your thing and he did his thing, America is great that way. Everybody can do their thing.

He thought you did something Foolish. He’s seen the result of foolish behavior in Vietnam.

Bourbon&JellyBeans > Svend
04/27/2016 at 15:39

Of what I remember of driving school, there was never much mention of roundabouts. If there was, it was brief. My instructor never actually had me use a roundabout (mostly because there just weren’t many around, probably).

DrJohannVegas > Burn-Spaz1966-Burn
04/27/2016 at 15:54

I’m glad that everyone was cool in this situation, but following someone to work to express displeasure with their driving is a similarly Foolish (I like the idea of capitalizing it, tbh) action. Road rage is a real thing. Unfortunately, America isn’t always great that way.

If someone takes it upon themselves to insert their opinion into my day, I see no reason not to engage in a full exchange of opinions, if “doing their thing” means we are gonna have a conversation.

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > DrJohannVegas
04/27/2016 at 16:03

You insert your driving into their day. Public Roads.

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > Burn-Spaz1966-Burn
04/27/2016 at 16:06

So he inserts his opinion into your day.

DrJohannVegas > Burn-Spaz1966-Burn
04/27/2016 at 16:07

We are verging on an infinite regress problem here.

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > DrJohannVegas
04/27/2016 at 16:25

Hey it’s your reaction, do what you want, but other peoples reactions are just as valid.

Road rage issue: Why would you escalate the situation by not biting your tongue? If someone called you out on your driving?

Your point was a good one about road rage but if he hadn’t passed him then none of it would of happened.., because the passer thought the passee?,(Spelling, Right word?), was going too slow.

Was the Passer going to the Hospital because of Him/other had a Life threatening injury?

A gun to his head?

Somebody had to pass someone else for whatever reason. If the passer didn’t make a choice about driving the way he did then I understand.

If he thought, “Hey this guy is driving too slow for me” then I see tit for tat.

The person passed thought it was unsafe. All opinions

Burn-Spaz1966-Burn > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
04/27/2016 at 16:25

The gas pedal isn’t a scheduling device.

That's gonna leave a mark! > Svend
04/27/2016 at 16:27

Don’t give me crap. I know where you live. I’ll come down there and put hand prints all over your car:)

Svend > That's gonna leave a mark!
04/27/2016 at 16:49

Lol.

brianbrannon > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet
04/28/2016 at 00:52

Why were you driving on the left side of the road?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > brianbrannon
04/28/2016 at 08:37

Lol this was the only traffic circle I could find with lines through it