Please Standardize Fullsize Truck Cabin Names

"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind) 04/24/2016 at 22:24 • Filed to: Trucks

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You have a few variants to the cabins of fullsize trucks: 2-door, 2+2 with rear hinged or half sized doors, and fullsize 4-door. Here’s my proposition, why dont we call each cabin variant the same damn thing across the entire industry? I know, I’m a madman!!

GM calls these variants Regular, Double, and Crew Cabs.

Ford calls them Regular, Super, and Super Crew Cabs.

Ram calls them Regular, Quad, and Crew Cabs.

Toyota calls them Regular, Double, and Crew Max Cabs.

Nissan calls them (you KNOW you don’t want a 2-door), King, and Crew Cabs.

So everyone agrees that a two door truck is a truck with a “Regular” cabin. Everyone also pretty much agrees that when the rear doors are the same size as the front doors, that truck is capable of carrying the entire “Crew” in its cabin. It’s those damn rear 1/2 door variants where everyone wants to fancy up the name and be unique. It’s either a Double, Super, Quad, or King cabin.

Now, I’m fine with distinguishing between a rear-hinged rear door (so no exterior handles) and a front hinged rear door that is much smaller than the front door (has exterior handles).

However, I don’t think two door fullsize trucks should still be available. Leave that for the Midsize trucks, especially the diesel models.

This is gone! No more two door fullsize trucks! Leave this variant for Midsize and Heavy Duty trucks.

Make small, rear hinged doors the “Regular” cabins and the base fullsize truck variant.

When you can access the passenger compartment without opening the front doors, that’s you “Double” cabins.

Finally, when your rear doors are full sized passenger doors, just call the “Crew” cabins.

Your boy, BJR > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 22:30

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I always called the middle size “extended” cabs.

Wobbles the Mind > Your boy, BJR 04/24/2016 at 22:33

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For years the term extended cab was used across the industry. I was suprised to see that no one currently uses that term for any of their trucks (which is how this post ca me about). They are still extended cabs, but the term seems to be avoided. So odd...

PS9 > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 22:33

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I’m not really seeing the problem. The way you have them outlined makes them look already well organized; even without pictures you can tell the terms refer to regular -> cab and a half -> Double cab with each company’s marketing speak layered on top.

So why not just remove the marketing speak then? Because each company obviously wants you to buy their product and not the other. Universal terminology is what you don’t want when you are trying to differentiate your own brand from someone else’s, so they will resist that whenever they can get away with it.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 22:38

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You stay away from our regular cab trucks. They are the sport trucks and work/fleet trucks of the bunch(besides when you have a full crew).

Regular cab is best cab!

Birddog > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 22:38

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Ford has called it’s extended cab “Super Cab” since 1973. I don’t think it’ll be easy to get them to change.

Wobbles the Mind > PS9 04/24/2016 at 22:39

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I’m on the otherside of the fence on this one. As a consumer, I want a simple way to shop. I don’t want to ask for a double cab and then have someone ask me if I meant a quad cab or a super cab. Then I say, “the extended cab” and they show me anything from a King cab to a Supercrew. Now of course, I’m more used to Mega Cabs, so maybe a Crew Max is what I have in mind.

*20pts to anyone that can name each brand of truck in that post without checking!

Wobbles the Mind > slipperysallylikespenguins 04/24/2016 at 22:42

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Hey, I’m just saying the midsizers make more sense for the sports trucks (just drop a V8 into the tacoma), and the heavy duty trucks make more sense of payload is that important. Leave the fullsizers with room behind the driver seat for interior storage.

Wobbles the Mind > Birddog 04/24/2016 at 22:45

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Which extended cab? The rear hinged doors or the 1/2 size doors? Nah, I’m joking. If Ford is reading this, don’t mind me!

PS9 > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 22:46

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As a fellow consumer, I have some bad news for you; universal trim model names will not fix that problem. If the salesman thinks you can be talked into that $50k super cab with all the trimmings over the $40k stripper, he’s going to try to do that. There isn’t a universe in which you will not be asked if you meant the larger more expensive truck when you ask for the smaller one. The only actual way to do that is to buy before interacting with a human being, and since a computer will always give you exactly what you ask from it (...for now, until AI salesman start ruining things there as well), universal trim model names don’t help much there either.

GUYMANDUDE > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 22:47

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Regular, extended, crew, mega (I think Dodge is the only one with mega). I work in parts, so this is a pain for me. I have to figure out what the hell each one is. I think if consumers rejected their terms and used the most common terms they would eventually stop.

I want the super special manly cab. That’s the only one for me.

Wobbles the Mind > PS9 04/24/2016 at 22:52

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Hmmm, I’ve been meaning to make up a universal trim level for brands. Mostly since Base, Sport, Limited, and now Platinum are moving across all NA market brands. That’ll be a good project!

Wobbles the Mind > GUYMANDUDE 04/24/2016 at 22:57

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Exactly! Most appliances and furniture have standized sizings and stay competitive. I just want to be able to ask for a King size without checking out the vehicle and finding out its actually a Queen Size or California King. In fact, I’ve been really happy with how passenger vehicles are converging on standard exterior sizing and adjusting interior volume instead.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 22:58

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If you use your truck full time for truck things, having a quadcab is a pain in the ass. Shortens cargo bed or increases length and turning radius.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 23:00

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I propose an alternative:

2 door, 2-3 seat= standard cab. Aka:

2 door+ 2 suicide doors, 4-5 seat= extended cab. Aka:

2 door+ 2 half door, 4-5 seat= Double Cab. Aka:

4 door, 5 seat= Crew Cab. Aka:

slipperysallylikespenguins > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 23:01

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But there isn’t a single regular cab midsize truck available in the US market. Regular cabs are the cheapest trucks for people who just want something to haul. Discontinuing regular cabs just pushes the price up for people who don’t need the extra room. Flatbed and dumpbed trucks don’t need to be 4 doors either.

If you look under the hood of a new Tacoma, it would be impossible to put a v8 in there from the factory.

Long live regular cab!

Wobbles the Mind > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 04/24/2016 at 23:04

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Do you not ever lock things in your truck? Toolbox, parts, or anything else? Most of the time guys out here end up needing to place a lock box into the longer beds if they have regular cabs. The passenger seat ends up holding lunch, paperwork, computers, and so on. But that’s a work issue as opposed to a truck issue, so you have a point.

Nibby > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 23:05

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I like my quad cab. There’s plenty of storage under the rear seat to keep tools and things in that frees up my bed.

Wobbles the Mind > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/24/2016 at 23:06

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I was waiting for this, but I really wanted to kill off 2-door fullsize trucks, and give midsize trucks and heavy duty regular cabs that market...oh well, next time!

Wobbles the Mind > slipperysallylikespenguins 04/24/2016 at 23:11

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And it’s that attitude which keeps a V8 out of the tacoma, and midsize trucks (which are nearly the same size and capability as 15 year old fulsizers) from becoming a thing! I want segments to survive, to thrive!! There are plenty of incentives for the $1,000 increase (after creating a WT trim of the extended cabs) to not hurt anyone.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 23:12

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No. I don’t need a back seat I’ll never use adding wheelbase and turning radius to an already excessively large truck. If I had my way, there would be no such thing as a four-door truck. If you want to bring your family along, get a minivan.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Wobbles the Mind 04/24/2016 at 23:43

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Currently the price difference between a Silverado regular cab and double cab is $4025 for the base levels which are already the work trucks.

Ford F150 is 4060, Ram 1500 is 4235

too much

knowonelse > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 04/25/2016 at 01:00

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Wa back when we were driving around in a standard cab truck with six people and a camper, we wanted to know why no one made a four door truck! We bought one used (‘64 F100) in 1965. Dad had a double cab over camper built for it. Can’t camp in a minivan with six people. Dad didn’t do well with trailers!

Svend > Wobbles the Mind 04/25/2016 at 01:50

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I was going to say we only get two types in the U.K. the regular and twin crew cab but just looked at the Ford website and there is the regular, double and super cab. Really didn’t know the Ranger came in the super cab.

I guess every day is a learning day.

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Wobbles the Mind 04/25/2016 at 02:23

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“I don’t think two door fullsize trucks should still be available”

shut your whore mouth regular cab trucks are the best

marshknute > Wobbles the Mind 04/25/2016 at 07:39

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The Tundra kinda breaks the mold since its middle version also has normal doors, albeit a bit stubby:

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > knowonelse 04/25/2016 at 10:17

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Something something tents. You can’t camp if you’re bringing the house with you either.

Pickup_man > Wobbles the Mind 04/25/2016 at 10:45

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It gets even worse. The Toyota Tundra goes Regular, Double, Crew Max, while the Tacoma goes Regular, Access, Double.

What do you have against Standard cab full size trucks? Standard cab long box trucks have been the ubiquitous work truck since basically day one, and the standard cab short box has been the hot rod of the truck world for just as long. What if you need the bed space that a full size offers, but a midsize doesn’t? And what if you need more power than the midsize can offer, but don’t need to step up to a HD truck? I love standard cab short box trucks and would buy one in a heartbeat if I didn’t use my extended cab as often as I do.

Pickup_man > Wobbles the Mind 04/25/2016 at 10:49

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Ford has never made a half size door pickup, they’ve always been rear hinged and that’s one of the reasons I like the Fords compared to the competition.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Wobbles the Mind 04/25/2016 at 21:46

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This is gone! No more two door fullsize trucks! Leave this variant for Midsize and Heavy Duty trucks.

Yes I do. For me not worth it if you have to do a lot of backing up and tight turning for snow plowing.

Robert > Wobbles the Mind 08/31/2016 at 11:29

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What kind of wheels are on that blue GMC sierra?

Wobbles the Mind > Robert 08/31/2016 at 14:59

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Those are the stock wheels for the 2016 Sierra, I think the Z71 package bumps them up from 17' to 18' (which I think are the ones in that picture, hard to tell from angle and regular cab).