We've never had it this good.

"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
03/18/2016 at 00:49 • Filed to: None

The new ZL1 had 169 horsepower more than an F40, 22 more horsepower than a McLaren F1, and only 11 less horsepower than an Enzo. 0-60 is estimated in 3.3, and it will be on sale for around $60k.

As far as hypercars go, how does an 1800 horsepower plug-in hybrid with no transmission sound?

The tiniest, cheapest GM product you can get is available with in-car Wi-Fi.

And you can get a gearbox in a work truck that has twice as many gears as a Mercedes S-class did, 25 years ago. By the way, you can also get that work truck with 395 horsepower, 95 more than a Mustang GT made just 6 years ago.

You can get a refrigerator in a mid-size Ford crossover...

...and reclining thrones in a Korean minivan.

Toyota is making a performance-focused RWD sports coupe...

...and even more conservative Lexus has unveiled a production car that looks like this.

There isn’t a better time to be an automotive enthusiast.

DISCUSSION (26)

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 00:55

But can I afford anything on this list? No :(

I’m in no way saying that you’re wrong though.

MoFinWiley > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 00:57

Now all we need is a (rear) mid-engine Corvette!!!

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 00:58

Those reclining look hella comfy. If a uber pulled on in one it be great.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
03/18/2016 at 01:01

It’s okay, neither can I.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 01:03

I hope they’re cheap on the used market. Well... Not the Regera because that’ll appreciate as soon as it leaves the lot is delivered by private jet.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
03/18/2016 at 01:05

With depreciation, anything is possible.

RazoE > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
03/18/2016 at 01:06

Can’t afford a sonic?

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > RazoE
03/18/2016 at 01:07

That’s more of a case of don’t want to.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > RazoE
03/18/2016 at 01:11

Spark, actually.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 01:11

actually I’d beg to differ.
In the 1960's the social structure in America allowed for a lot more people to purchase sporty vehicles, and the sheer numbers of options available were enough to confuse most individuals, and frighten the rest. At no other point in history will there ever be a vehicle that a common man could go out and buy, that would offer more uniqueness and performance per dollar. Couple that with the amazing driving experiences these machines delivered, and you have an era of cars that are all just pleasures to be around.
so yes, todays cars are marvels of tech and performance, but you can't beat the old school, even if you're trying to

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
03/18/2016 at 01:18

Sure, a 64 GTO cost around $25k when adjusted for inflation, and it got from 0-60 in 4.6, but the average car cost $17k. That’s around a 45% premium compared to the average car. The average car nowadays costs $30k, with a Mustang GT (a quicker car) costing only about 30% more than the average new car. So therefore, it’s actually proportionally cheaper to buy a muscle car today than it was in the 60s.

RazoE > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 01:22

So it is....damn it looks good....for a small car you know?

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > RazoE
03/18/2016 at 01:23

Indeed. If it weren’t for the lack of a middle rear seat, I’d buy one over a Mirage or Micra.

slipperysallylikespenguins > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 02:35

But a 65 Mustang with a V8 was about $2500, or just shy of $19000 now. The GTO is more similar to a modern Chevy SS than a Mustang.

Also the average household income for 1965 was 6450 vs 52250 in 2015, so your 65 Mustang took 39% of your income vs 62% for 2015/16. Your money went further

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 02:45

What a time to be alive.

slipperysallylikespenguins > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 02:55

I would argue for 1974 as being the best time for automotive enthusiasts. The oil crisis just ended, used muscle cars were dirt cheap, and their was a flood of British and Japanese sports cars. You could even buy a used Ferrari, 300SL, or GT40 for the price of a new Cadillac. Le Mans winning technology for family car prices.

LongbowMkII > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 08:35

You didn't have to be rich to afford a Porsche or jaguar.

DoYouEvenShift > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 08:49

New cars > all others

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 09:46

Well let’s see. Hardly any sports cars exist below 2,500 pounds anymore. Thick pillars make visibility a pain. “Black boxes” record and (possibly) upload your actions constantly. Downsized, lower-revving engines are the norm. Low hoodlines and pop-up headlights are impossible for pedestrian crash regs. Manufacturers have to pipe in sound to the interior because cars are so quiet and isolated. Anyone’s grandma can paddle shift a supercar to a 10-second 1/4 mile without any skill needed. Bentley is selling CUV’s and Porsche is developing and all-electric sedan.

Yeah I’ll stay right here in 1969.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > LongbowMkII
03/18/2016 at 10:04

Fair enough, but the caliber of performance available elsewhere is staggering. Plus, there’s always the used market.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > slipperysallylikespenguins
03/18/2016 at 10:08

Assuming both were brand new and you’d be footing the bill for each, would you rather drive 100,000 miles in a 2015 Mustang Ecoboost Performance Package, or 100,000 miles in a 1965 Mustang GT? If it were my money, I’d much rather have the newer, safer, more reliable, better-warrantied car. A better horse, so to speak. Don’t get me wrong, I love the classics. It’s just that when we look at how far we’ve come, there’s never really been a better time for new cars.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)
03/18/2016 at 10:09

Indeed.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > slipperysallylikespenguins
03/18/2016 at 10:23

I wouldn’t exactly go that far. A 75 Eldorado was $9935 when new, as opposed to the average of $3800. That means the Eldorado is a little over 2.6 times as expensive as the average car. If it were proportional to the average new car price in 2015, it would be around $87,256. Given the fact that we’re looking at ten to twenty year old technology, you could pick up this beautiful Ferrari 360 , or this GT3 , or even this ZR1 Corvette for less than that price, all of which have racing pedigree. Sure, you could have picked up a GT40 for the cost of an Eldorado, but saying that you could get a street-legal Le Mans car for the cost of a family car is more than a bit of a stretch.

LongbowMkII > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 10:26

in that case you could get a used Z/28 or GT350 for a song back in the day. For modern street cars, I am ambivalent about the performance.

The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123 > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 19:57

And I’m perfectly content with my underpowered, overweight, 1992 Grand Marquis with non-functioning AC and radio. I would even prefer something older and simpler. I do admit the amount of car you can get for you money today is amazing. Here’s hoping it only gets better.

NJAnon > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/18/2016 at 22:40

I’m with the other poster that is a cool time. But its not some revolution level stuff going when comparing to the current issues.

P.S that Koenigsegg is a beast!!