Real Garage: Vehicle Swap

"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind) 03/11/2016 at 22:16 • Filed to: Dream Garage

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The challenge is to choose at least one of your vehicles and find a direct replacement vehicle whose list price can be found within $1,000 of your vehicle’s clean trade-in value . Feel encouraged to use the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! for this. Or use anything you want honestly, I don’t care!

If you would like to swap your entire garage, I’d love to see it! If this is a bit time consuming but you would like to participate still, just list your car and what it’s direct swap would be.

Ex.

My 2006 Kia Amanti has a Clean Trade-in value of $ 4,000 .

I need to replace it with a vehicle that serves the same roll, which is a large, undiscript, premium sedan able to move 4 adults comfortably.

Well I could replace it directly with a Mitsubishi Diamante . This 2002 model is listed at $3,995 with just 31,000 miles more than my Kia.

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Mitsubishi Diamante Interior

Kia Amanti Interior

Ex. 2 (without running precise numbers)

The 2012 Grand Cherokee will likely have a clean trade-in of $18,000. It’s purpose is a work vehicle that carries a lot of cargo and travels around 44,000 miles a year. I could probably replace it with a late mid-2000s 4Runner. Not the best answer since I would be losing a lot of power. I bet there is a GM SUV that would be a better fit. However, without the research Im still participating!

Have fun and good night Oppo!

CB > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:21

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Well, if I trade in nothing, I guess I can buy... this Matrix for $1000 ? I mean, it needs a few new things, but nothing that major.

Wobbles the Mind > CB 03/11/2016 at 22:23

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Can’t argue with that. That Matrix is definitely as good as nothing at all! *no sarcasm, that’s a good deal!

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:25

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1998 M3: Nada puts it at $3400 clean trade in. Purpose is a toss-able sports sedan that carrys 4 people and makes me smile.

This 328i sport pack costs the same as the trade in, but has about 5,000 fewer miles, isn’t quite as fast or as quite a handler but still spectacular to drive. It also has the one key thing my M3 is missing, a manual transmission.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/5486990097…

dogisbadob > CB 03/11/2016 at 22:28

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That’s a great deal! Any running, driving car is worth $1000, let alone an awesome Toyota.

And odometers on those cars stop at 299999 km (applies to every non-US/UK-market Corolla, Matrix, and Vibe/Voltz of that generation). US (and presumably UK) versions stop at 299999 miles. It’s possible that the cluster has been swapped out (Toyota pays for the part, but you still have to pay the labor)

CB > dogisbadob 03/11/2016 at 22:31

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Considering it needs new brakes (~$100) and new tires (~$500) and that’s it, it really seems like a good deal. And I didn’t know that about the odometers!

 > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:32

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I drive a Crown Vic. There is no direct replacement for it.

190octane > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:32

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Can you replace it with anything? I could get a lot of cool shit that goes real fast with the 2500 HD Denali that my wife drives.

dogisbadob > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:33

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no trade-in values for older cars :p

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies >  03/11/2016 at 22:34

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9C1?

Frank Grimes > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:36

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My trade in is valued at $2300 which seems low its a 1996 m edition miata.
I found this 1979 Triumph Spitfire $2500 w/ ford 2.6

am i doing this right?

 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 03/11/2016 at 22:37

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They haven’t built 9C1s since 1996 and most are piles of heap at this point.

Wobbles the Mind > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/11/2016 at 22:38

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Thats pretty good. I think you could track down an early-mid 2000s Lincoln LS and it would be an even more direct replacement to that M3 at that price point. However, I haven’t driven either.

Wobbles the Mind >  03/11/2016 at 22:40

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There are no V8, RWD, Large Sedans in American history that can be found to do the same task at that price point? There must be something! High mileage early Lexus LS even?

Wobbles the Mind > dogisbadob 03/11/2016 at 22:41

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Hmm, let’s call it $1,500 if it’s clean. Find something that’s no more than $2,500 that could replace it for you. I’m curious!

interstate366, now In The Industry > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:42

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My 2001 Prelude with a 5-speed has a clean trade-in value of $2700 (hilariously, it says the automatic transmission, which is prone to failure, is $2900). I could get a decent NA Miata or maybe an Integra GS-R in that price range. Here’s an NA (although Mariner Blue is my preferred color): http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/5482817001…

Wobbles the Mind > Frank Grimes 03/11/2016 at 22:42

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Looks right to me!

Wobbles the Mind > interstate366, now In The Industry 03/11/2016 at 22:46

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Pretty nice! Is there anything making about the same power figures to the same wheels as your prelude below $3,700?

Wobbles the Mind > interstate366, now In The Industry 03/11/2016 at 22:54

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Best thing I can think of is an Oldsmobile Achieva SCX, which is crazy!

dogisbadob > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 22:58

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I have a 96 I30 with 260k.

The replacement would NOT have a transverse V6! These two seem to be the best values:

Accord manual sedan and a Volvo V40

interstate366, now In The Industry > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 23:00

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Nothing below $3700 yet, but there is this Acura RSX Type S for $100 over the limit. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/cto/548496…

If I lived in the Great White North I could import this 2001 Accord Euro-R next month (when it turns 15 years old) with cash to spare, although it has 2 extra doors. http://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/HONDA…

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 23:01

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Between the Kia and the Diamante I think I’d take the Kia. Eventho the Mistubishi is better looking, I’d bet the Kia is more reliable.

Si my car is a 1991 Galant VR-4. I doubt I could trade it in at a dealership if I wanted to due to age, but in a private party deal I’d say it’s worth about 3,000 in it’s current state. It daily drive-able but it needs work. so if i sold it for 3000, and I have another 1000. I’d buy this. a 1992 Galant VR-4 with all the mods mine needs.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/cto/546582…

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > interstate366, now In The Industry 03/11/2016 at 23:02

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It’s funny how a manual trans lowers the value of a car, just because they are a harder sell.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Frank Grimes 03/11/2016 at 23:03

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Yes, but I think you’re better off with your car.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 23:05

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I’ve yet to see an SCX. Ever. There’s only one regular Achieva on Craigslist in my general vicinity.

I also recently saw a couple of salvage title early 8th gen Civic Si’s in the $5000 range, but they’re still a couple years away from “why not” money.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 23:10

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I keep looking at the book values on mine and a clean one on a lot with over 3x the miles is asking $6k, which is way more than book. They don't get anywhere near it without over 150k miles.

interstate366, now In The Industry > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/11/2016 at 23:12

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Yeah, especially when the automatic version of the same car has a reputation for transmission failures. The first rule of buying a 5th gen Prelude is to stay the hell away from automatics.

Wobbles the Mind > interstate366, now In The Industry 03/11/2016 at 23:18

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Achieva’s are going the way of the Eagle Vision. Driven into complete oblivion until all of sudden there are only 10 left in the US unscraped. I want to pick up these cars and restore them but they may he extinct by the time I get the money, space, and time.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Wobbles the Mind 03/11/2016 at 23:35

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Yeah, they’re getting scarce quickly. I saw a regular 2-door (SC?) recently, not on its deathbed but definitely had seen better days. I expect Preludes to become scarce in the next 5-10 years. Running 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gens are already hard to find, and most 4th and 5th gens I see for sale have been abused either by ricers or just heavy use.

derf > Wobbles the Mind 03/12/2016 at 00:05

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Current garage - A pair of E46s, ‘06 M3 convertible and ‘01 330Ci coupe. Here’s the M3 in its favoured habitat, running around cones while trying to pretend its roofless self doesn’t weigh quite as much as it actually does:

Swapped garage #1 :

M3 convertible -> M3 coupe

330Ci -> non-M E46 convertible

This maintains top-down happiness while giving the S54 less weight to lug around the slalom course. Downside is that the S54 sounds brilliant with the top down.

Swapped garage #2 :

M3 convertible -> 987 Boxster S for improved cone dodging awesomeness while still maintaining top down capability for nice days (base Boxster would do, but there are a couple S ones around in the right price range).

330Ci -> E39 straight six 5-series for improved back seat capability, or maybe just keep the 330 for mad rallycross action in the winter.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Wobbles the Mind 03/12/2016 at 00:37

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for $14K (about what my GLI is worth rn) I could get a nice E46 M3

Twism > Wobbles the Mind 03/12/2016 at 00:51

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Seems my 05 Dodge Magnum RT has a value of... $6,425.

Ouch.

To replace it with a vehicle that does the same things (ridiculous torque, RWD, fast, wagon), I found very few things:

A V50 Wagon , A 2004 E-Class and a WRX Wagon .

Nothing to tempt me, honestly.

Expo2k > Wobbles the Mind 03/12/2016 at 01:36

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Nice! My ‘09 WRX is at exactly $12k, so this 1994 RX-7 is perfect.

http://m.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/…

Nymphicus Hollandicus > Wobbles the Mind 03/12/2016 at 07:05

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My car’s (2005 Honda Pilot EX-L) clean trade-in value has gone up to 7,000(!) so I’ll replace it with a Mazda 3 since that’s what could happen (hopefully) in a few months. I don’t fully trust the NADA auto guide though.

bingham123 > Wobbles the Mind 03/12/2016 at 13:51

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trade in the daily for £900ish and get a 03 bmw e90 touring for £1500-£2000 in reasonable condition, all ready going to do this as the wife wants one

Amoore100 > Wobbles the Mind 03/16/2016 at 20:09

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Here goes nothing:

To replace my ‘05 V50 2.4i with 150k miles which is rated at $3,925 clean trade in I’d have this clean looking ‘07 Saab 9-3 Aero sedan with 131k miles for just $70 more! I would have preferred a wagon, but a V6 turbo for <$4k is too great a deal to pass up.

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Now, my dad’s ‘01 V70 T5 is rated at $1,825 with the 207k miles it has so I figured for an extra $675 or so (lower if negotiations can be made) he can “downgrade” to this ‘98 V90 with only 135k miles in excellent condition.

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And finally, to replace our ‘05 Ody EX-L with 150k miles (though to be honest, I wouldn’t because nothing beats a minivan for day to day errands) let’s go with this ‘04 XC90 3.2 T6 with 153k miles.

Wobbles the Mind > Amoore100 03/16/2016 at 20:14

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Cool thing about this challenge is that you could actually trade in a vehicle and have no car payment. Seeing all these vehicles always moves my imagination.

Amoore100 > Wobbles the Mind 03/16/2016 at 20:24

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Indeed. A Saab with 250+ horsepower and two years newer for just $70 more than my Volvo wagon with 168 hp and 20k more miles? What has this world come to?!