Forza 6 Racing Etiquette (Read if You're Racing At Le Mans Today)

"SVTyler" (svtyler) 02/27/2016 at 15:36 • Filed to: Forza

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The 24 Hours of Le Mans is upon us once again, and with it comes Oppositelock’s third annual 2.4 Hour race in Forza 6. Because of the large crowd and unique characteristics of the Circuit de la Sarthe some pretty significant rule changes have been implemented so please read on to find out what will be expected of you once we’re all out on track.

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1. Prototypes should pass on the straights whenever possible. It’s a long race so unless you’re skilled enough (which very few of us are) or have a very clear opportunity it’s best to simply tuck in behind the GT cars and pass once you clear the apex. On a related note:

2. GT cars should hold their line heading into and going through corners. It’s up to the LMP’s to pass safely so GT’s should just focus on being predictable; while well-intentioned, braking early or jumping out of the way to give the prototypes an easy way through sometimes has the opposite effect.

3. Prototype drivers must be especially patient and cautious in their driving. If you’re in an LMP you shouldn’t be going 10/10ths while negotiating traffic. Just focus on making safe passes and set some consistent times and the few seconds you spent getting held up behind the GT cars should be made up by race’s end.

4. GT cars should pick a side on the straights and stay on it. Le Mans is mostly straights so this will be paramount to keeping racing clean. Holding your line gives both classes a bit of what they want: the GT cars have the option to choose which line they take and the prototypes get an easy path through.

5. Lapped in-class traffic should immediately yield to cars on the lead lap. There have been a few incidents in these endurance races where cars that were way down in the order were needlessly holding up the faster drivers by driving defensively and fighting for position, in several cases causing crashes that necessitated pit stops. There’s absolutely no reason to do any of that, please just let the faster car by and don’t slow them down any more than you need to.

6. When exiting pit lane, stay to the inside of the track. The kink before the Dunlop chicane is an extremely high-speed, committed corner so if you drift in front of someone they likely won’t be able to avoid a collision and 8.5 miles is a long way to go in a busted car. Speaking of which:

7. If your car becomes damaged, stay off the racing line. Just because you doesn’t mean you have to inconvenience everyone else on track. Get out of the way and limp it back to the pits.

8. Enable the map on your HUD. T he map will help both classes by displaying what cars are close by, on what side of the track, and how fast they’re going which is all valuable information over the course of a 1.5 hour race.

9. GT cars should be constantly looking in the mirrors for prototypes. The prototypes are faster than you think they are. That being said, GT drivers should never be surprised by an LMP car because you should be checking behind you and looking at the map every corner to see if one’s coming up.

10. Communicate with your fellow racers. Most of us have mics, please use them. Something as simple as “on your left” can be the difference between a typical non-incident and a crash that sets you both back a huge amount of time.

11. Unless you’re allowing a prototype to pass you should respect track limits . As we all known Turn10 doesn’t give a fuck about track limits and anyone who’s spent more than a few laps at Le Mans knows there’s several places around the circuit that can be abused. There’s nothing we can really do to stop you from doing it (apart from calling you out) but it’d be nice if everyone races fairly.

12. Call your inter-class passes. The GT’s should be paying attention but since none of us are professionals here it’d just be best for the prototype drivers to tell them where you’re at. Something like “on your left” or “inside after this corner” should be enough to avoid any major accidents.

13. Finally, yet most importantly, remember that the sole purpose of this race is to have fun racing with Opponauts, not competing against them. No one should be coming into this race expecting to win and you need to be OK with the fact that, despite everyone’s best efforts, you will probably be involved in some kind of crash during the course of the race. That’s just kind of how these big endurance races go, so please check your attitude at the door and don’t take it too seriously if something does happen, more than likely it will work itself out by race’s end.

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ROLLING STARTS:

1. Because standing starts and Forza’s in-game rolling starts suck, we’ll be trying something new this series and instituting a pace lap prior to a manual rolling start . This obviously presents some challenges with a field as large as the one we’ll have, but (hopefully) it’ll be pretty simple:

2. There will be a set roll-off delay between each individual car so everyone has a bit of room to get going and won’t have to deal with AWD Audis or whatever plowing into the back of them. It probably won’t be more than a few seconds so the field will still be together, just with a little room between them to safely navigate the .

3. There will also be a delay between both classes. You’ll notice that GT cars always start 15-30 seconds after the prototypes in most multi-class endurance races, and we’ll be doing something similar so any LMP’s involved in a crash during the first few corners won’t have to fight their way through GT traffic after getting back on track.

2. Don’t exceed 90mph,keep a minimum of 100ft between you and the next car, and don’t drive aggressively during the pace lap . Slower speeds means more time to react to each other, which will allow us to avoid an incident during the pace lap. The LMP’s especially are extremely reactive to inputs so coasting into turns before gently braking and gearing down to 5th or 6th for the straights will negate a lot of the potential for accidents.

3. Form up on the leader after the Porsche Curves . P1 of both classes will coast down to 60mph for the race start, after which you can get alongside the car in front of you and get in formation for the start.

4. Because there will also be a roll-off delay between the two classes we will doing a separate race start for each class, very similar to what we did at Daytona. After leaving the final corner, the pack will continue towards the start-finish line at ~60mph. Once the front row of each respective class passes the start/finish line the race will begin.

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ONCE GREEN FLAG DROPS:

1. Hold your line. The closest together the you will ever be to (and thus the most likely to crash into) other racers will be at the very beginning of the race so you should stick to your side of the track and refrain from weaving around looking for a gap. If you’re behind a slower car you should either get off-throttle so you don’t run into the back of the dude, or if there is enough room...

2. Pass as smoothly and and obviously as possible . If you see an open lane, gently drift into it so you can easily adjust your line if another driver makes a move and so that the other cars can see your intentions and plan accordingly. On a related note:

3. Yield to the faster car. If you see a faster car coming up don’t swerve or try to block them, let them by so no one crashes. This shouldn’t be a problem as long as everyone follows #’s 1 and 2.

4. Cars should go no more than two wide into the first corner. Having three or four cars go into turn 1 all at once just creates chaos. If more than two cars are in line with each other, the furthest car back should brake early to allow the two cars in front to go through unimpeded.

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FIRST LAP:

1. Lap 1 is where most of our crashes happen, either with people getting too pushy and aggressive or people not having the presence of mind or skill to avoid contact in heavy traffic. You won’t win the race on the first corner or the first lap, but you can put yourself in a pretty big hole if you spin off at the very beginning of the race. The goal of your first lap should be to avoid contact and stay on track , in that order. If you lose position by having to brake or adjust your line to avoid contact so be it, that’s a much more preferable alternative to you taking out three or four other cars and putting all of you in deep hole to start the race.

2. You should leave at least a car-width of room on either side of you during the first few laps so that if someone gets a run on you there’s still room for the both of you to go through the corner at the same time. Similarly, you should leave a car-length between you and the guy in front of you so you have time to react to any sudden movements he makes.

3. Keep in mind that it takes a bit of time tires to fully heat up and until they do you won’t have as much grip as you’re used to. This means both cornering and braking will be compromised . Plan accordingly: brake earlier, turn in sooner, be lighter on the throttle, etc for the first lap or two. This shouldn’t be as much of a problem with our warm-up lap but I think it’s still worth mentioning

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PASSING:

1. As in real life, it is completely up to the passing car to ensure a move is both safe and clean. However , the lead car should clearly signal its intentions; follow roughly the same line every lap and if you mean to block an inside pass, move inside well before the two cars approach the corner.

2: While following a car, pay attention to the strengths and weaknesses of both the car and driver and use that information to make a safe overtake. Watch for the lines the driver takes, where your car has the advantage, where theirs has the advantage, where the other driver is slow, etc. There’s no need to force a pass in a corner if you can just overtake on the following straight.

3. If the passing car doesn’t have its front axle in line with the door of the leading car, the passing car should adjust speed and braking to ensure the leading car’s racing line is uninterrupted. I’ve watched at least a dozen of our races in full going back to the first Le Mans race and parts of almost every other race and the number one cause of non-rear-end crashes is one car sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong. This isn’t WWII so no divebombing please.

ANY INCIDENT INVOLVING CARS LEAVING THE TRACK:

1. In the event that there is contact causing one or more vehicles to leave the track, the aggressor should pull off to the side and wait for the other driver/drivers to rejoin before getting back on track themselves. We’ve had some new people so you may not be aware of this rule, but this is how we’ve done things going all the way back to the first Le Mans race last June. The idea is basically that if you cause a wreck you shouldn’t benefit from it.

2. When rejoining the race after having an off, pay attention to incoming cars. You should be looking behind you the entire time you’re trying to get back on track so you don’t pull out in front of someone else who’s moving at a much faster speed.

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Considering it is just a video game after all, none of these rules (apart from the starting procedure) will be enforced with an iron fist, all we’re trying to do is minimize the number of crashes and incidents we have in the races and thus make the racing more enjoyable for everyone involved. Be smart, be patient, and don’t be a dick and we should be fine once green flag drops.

See you on track.

TheHondaBro > SVTyler 04/23/2015 at 18:05

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Cars should go no more than two wide into the first corner.

inb4 Tohru’s war cry.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > SVTyler 04/23/2015 at 18:16

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Man I need to switch my saturdays at work so I can start participating

SVTyler > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 04/23/2015 at 18:23

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Still got seven races left including this weekend and we’re usually done by 5:30 EST.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > SVTyler 04/23/2015 at 18:32

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I work every saturday 8am to 9pm so unless I switch days (which I hope to soon) I’m tied up lol

SVTyler > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 04/23/2015 at 18:50

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Yeesh, that’s a rough schedule man. We’ll keep a spot on the grid open for you if you can switch, keep in mind we’ve got another series in the works that will run all the way into December as well.

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler 04/23/2015 at 18:52

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So, that's a no to the YOLO charge into the first turn.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > SVTyler 04/23/2015 at 20:12

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Well the 13 hour shifts are nice cause I have 4 days off so if the races were on a Friday or sunday night id be game at least for the time being

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > SVTyler 04/23/2015 at 20:16

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Rules for Oppo GT6 night: Do whatever you want, all’s fair in love and war.

samssun > SVTyler 04/23/2015 at 20:20

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If a video game has 20 paragraphs of rules and legalese dictating that the front axle shall not exceed the lead driver’s demarcation heretofore, I think it’s crossed into the land of we’re having Mandatory Fun dammit!

SVTyler > samssun 04/24/2015 at 07:42

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I’m like the dad on vacation with his dysfunctional family, “WE’RE GOING TO HAVE FUN DAMMIT”

SVTyler > TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! 04/24/2015 at 07:49

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Pffft, amateurs, this Fourza is serious business. Nah, it’s just gotten chippy the last few races and I’m just trying to keep the peace. Having 10+ cars on track is going to cause problems regardless but I’ll give it a shot.

SVTyler > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 04/25/2015 at 00:09

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We used to race on Sundays at 9pm in our GT series, problem is we’re all in school so we had projects and homework and exams and social lives that got in the way. We haven’t yet decided on a time for the next series so I can see what everyone says about maybe changing it.

TopSirloin > TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! 04/25/2015 at 00:16

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Sounds like a shit show. “Rules” keep me from getting up under someone and putting them in the wall for nearly spinning me on their failed pass attempt the lap prior. Hopefully because the rules keep them from doing that in the first place.

TopSirloin > SVTyler 04/25/2015 at 00:17

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*round of applause.gif

SVTyler > ly2v8-Brian 04/25/2015 at 01:27

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Not unless you scream “LEEROOOOOOOOOOOOY MMMJJJEEENNNKKKINS” as loud as you can no.

Tohru > TheHondaBro 05/03/2015 at 16:07

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OI

prick

TheHondaBro > Tohru 05/03/2015 at 16:10

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Tohru > TheHondaBro 05/03/2015 at 23:22

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TheHondaBro > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 15:05

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Bruh y u keep recycling old posts?

ly2v8-Brian > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 15:06

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We saw a real example of GT's not getting the fuck out of a P1's way.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 15:07

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Kinda want to scream LEEEEEEERRROOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYY JJJJJEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNKIIIIINS every once in a while just see every body panic.

Rainbow > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 15:18

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Another important rule: If you see the #34 BMW approaching, let it pass and then never overtake it again until it wins.

Tareim - V8 powered > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 15:18

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When is it starting? as I’m sure Corey said 4:30 in a time zone that meant 8:30 for me, or is it actually 1hr from now?

RoboRed "The road to hell is paved with overturned Vanduras" > Tareim - V8 powered 06/14/2015 at 15:21

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About an hour from now. He said 4:30 EST, which is 3:30 CST my time.

Tareim - V8 powered > RoboRed "The road to hell is paved with overturned Vanduras" 06/14/2015 at 15:22

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ah ok, no need to panic then.. phew..

jvirgs drives a Subaru > TheHondaBro 06/14/2015 at 15:27

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LEEROY JENKINS!!!!!

Viggen > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 15:30

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Another rule: Avoid the #15 Gulf Aston Martin on the first lap until his drag tires warm up.

Dusty Ventures > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 15:31

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I wish my steering wheel hadn’t crapped out on me last week, I kinda wanna give this a go

SVTyler > Dusty Ventures 06/14/2015 at 16:20

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Could always try out a controller, I use one and I do alright.

Dusty Ventures > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 16:28

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Yeah, I popped the disc in and ran a few laps around Le Mans using the controller with the C6R, just for the hell of it. I managed to keep it on the track (mostly) but my lap times varied wildly from about a 4:05 to a 4:09. I wouldn’t want to share the track with someone who drove like me lol.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > SVTyler 06/14/2015 at 19:39

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Nissan rules, 3 wheels monsieur, you cannot go! Shut the door and drive!!

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > TopSirloin 06/15/2015 at 00:12

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It is a total shit-show. Me and everyone else involved wouldn’t have it any other way.

1111111111111111111111 > SVTyler 10/09/2015 at 18:10

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Can people tell me where I can see twitch streams, or watch in a lobby?

Autofixation > SVTyler 10/09/2015 at 18:12

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Wait, there is already a Forza 6 series started?

SVTyler > 1111111111111111111111 10/09/2015 at 18:15

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If you send a friend request to Rainbow (GT: Goatbird) you can join in on him and spectate the lobby, otherwise check out RoboRed’s T witch profile where he’ll be streaming the race from his view.

For future races one of things I’d like to get done is to have everyone in the lobby set up their own Twitch stream through the XB1 app so people can switch between in-car cams like real-life races but I don’t think anyone besides Robo has got their Twitch app working yet.

SVTyler > Autofixation 10/09/2015 at 18:16

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Not yet, that comment was from when we were still doing the Trans-Am races. We’ll probably start something around Christmastime when people get XB1’s as presents or for Black Friday or whatever.

IDDaVo - Now has a Toy Yoda > SVTyler 10/09/2015 at 18:29

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I’m considering streaming my perspective.

1111111111111111111111 > SVTyler 10/09/2015 at 18:37

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Done and done!

SVTyler > IDDaVo - Now has a Toy Yoda 10/09/2015 at 18:39

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Same, I was going to try and set up my own stream tonight just so we have at least one prototype viewpoint. Doesn’t seem like a very difficult setup at least.

1111111111111111111111 > IDDaVo - Now has a Toy Yoda 10/09/2015 at 22:58

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Would you share your gamer tag, and twitch?

IDDaVo - Now has a Toy Yoda > 1111111111111111111111 10/09/2015 at 23:16

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My Gt is FearlessTSwift and my Twitch is RedTSwift.

Viggen > SVTyler 10/10/2015 at 00:43

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I’m just here to say:
A. I wish I had my XB1 with me because next gen Gulf Macca would have happened.

2. This picture just reminds me how much I fucking miss the American Le Mans Series.

SVTyler > Viggen 10/11/2015 at 00:40

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1. Sucks you missed it man :( I’m hoping we can get enough people to do a full LMP/GT season, that way you can use it every race. That or just a straight GT car season depending on who all we can get racing.

2. You and me both man.

TheCowmaster > SVTyler 10/13/2015 at 10:47

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I agree on missing alms as well even though I was only able to watch part of one season it was still great. And I agree about wanting to do an LMP and GT series. But maybe allowing some of the older prototypes for variety?

SVTyler > TheCowmaster 10/13/2015 at 10:58

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We’ll probably have to just to have some variety in the prototype class, though it’ll be interesting to see how the performance difference between the cars actually end up. Obviously you want some diversity amongst the field but you don’t want to have completely overpowered cars, which could be a problem considering how fast the older prototypes are to the newer ones. Again stuff we’ll figure out once we actually begin to plan a series...

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > SVTyler 02/24/2016 at 10:22

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Here’s my plan for the start of Watkins Glen. The field will come around the last turn onto the main straight, and when the first car reaches the parallel point with the Sunoco sign, the person in the first car will start counting down from 5, and then call go. Just like at Daytona, each class will do this separately.

SVTyler > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 02/24/2016 at 14:17

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Just edited it in, should be good for the next post.

66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash > Dusty Ventures 02/26/2016 at 00:38

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With a controller you really can’t use simulation steering, I use normal steering with all assists off and it works great.

NJAnon > SVTyler 02/27/2016 at 21:42

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I hope the players in Forza motorsport 6 do race better than previous forza titles. Every online race I was in was a 1980's Formula 1 start with crashes at the 1st sign of a turn and people leaving the race.

Of course the most active lobby in Forza is the destruction type modes....

SVTyler > NJAnon 02/27/2016 at 22:26

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Honestly, the racing in Forza 6's public lobbies is even worse than I remember Forza 4 being at this point in its release. Seems like 80% of the lobbies have at least two or three people purposefully crashing people or abusing track limits so it’s impossible to have a good race, especially in the higher-PI leagues. I’m hoping that all the trolls will move on once Horizon 3 comes out but for now it seems like our private leagues are the only place you can get consistently clean online racing.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > SVTyler 04/05/2016 at 15:11

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Hey man, I have a question for you regarding the next endurance race. I won’t be able to host it since for the dates I’m looking at I will still be at school with not great wifi and no way to plug into a wall unless I can somehow get a hold of a 100 ft ethernet cable. So I was wondering if you could host the race. The dates I’m looking at are either Saturday, April 23rd, 4:30 PM EST or Saturday, April 30th, 4:30 PM EST. If either or both of these dates work for you, please let me know so I can put the date up to a vote/let people know when the race is.

Also, as a side note, I gave you back the championship point you lost at Watkins Glen because that race was a clusterfuck and you had to get pushed around the track at Sebring.

SVTyler > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 04/05/2016 at 16:01

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That’s fine, I’d prefer to do it the 23rd though because of finals week. And thanks for the point back, need all the ones I can get lol.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > SVTyler 04/05/2016 at 20:14

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Alright, thanks! I’ll just set the date for the 23rd then if that’s what works best for you.