Thinking about buying an X Type

"Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell." (oppisitelock) 12/04/2016 at 04:05 • Filed to: None

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The Twingo is pretty appalling at motorway work and I do 50 miles on high speed roads every day. So I started thinking about what i’d want to replace it with. It would have to be interesting. Itd have to get better fuel economy at a high speed cruise while also being quieter and having a nice interior. Plus itd have to be as inexpensive as the Twingo to buy and be able to tow. X Type fits the bill quite nicely. They use mondeo diesel engines which I know well and can get parts for cheaply, the interior is excellent for the money and fuel economy on the motorway is pretty good.

Anything I’m missing?

bob and john > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 04:08

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erm...

*scratches head*

you do know there is a reason those things are so cheap right?

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > bob and john 12/04/2016 at 04:16

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What reason is that? Reliability seems reasonable. The only reason I can see is personal taste.

Leon711 > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 04:28

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Try and get a 2.2 rather than a 2 litre, the latter is a bit gutless.

bob and john > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 04:33

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mechanically reliable maybe...electronic on the other hand...oh boy.

plus the added cost of JAAAGGGG parts when something breaks

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > bob and john 12/04/2016 at 04:37

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Electronics haven’t been a problem in british cars since the 80s. there are plenty of other reasons to hate the x type.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 04:39

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Generally I like Jaags better than BMWs, but I think if you’re going X-type, any comparable BMW will be better.

Svend > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 04:41

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An X-Type isn’t a bad idea.

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 04:43

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Would be sad to see the Twingo go(making me the only Twingbro on Oppo), but on the other hand I’ve always liked the X type (and S type). Wouldn’t a Mondeo be cheaper though?

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Leon711 12/04/2016 at 04:46

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Yeah that would be the plan but I’m okay with the 2 litre if I find a nice example. Ive personally owned a car with a variant of the 2 litre, as has my grandad and they were fine if not quick.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > bob and john 12/04/2016 at 04:48

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Ive looked into it and the aftermarket has basically every part that could wear out for a good price, with breakers yards being the place to go for anything else.

Plus on the point of electrical issues, we own three Renaults which are always mocked for perceived electrical unreliability. All completely fine.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes 12/04/2016 at 04:49

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Price comes into play here though. An 80k mile e46 320d with a nice spec is much more than an X type. Plus the e46 interior isnt to my tastes at all.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Svend 12/04/2016 at 04:49

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I just need something to waft me to work and back without being too boring. Always liked the look of them.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > BvdV - The Dutch Engineer 12/04/2016 at 04:50

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Mondeos are barely cheaper for the spec I’d want (Ghia or Titanium). If I do replace the Twingo I’d want a nicer interior than a normal spec Mondeo. X Types are very very cheap in the UK.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 04:52

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Really? here in the US the x type is on par with the e46 in both build quality and price, but I’d say the e46 is a much better drive. I’d rather have a nice e39 than either.

Svend > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 05:03

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Ye’, the Jaguar X-Type is a good looking car, sort of like a baby XJ.

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 05:08

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In that case I get the choice for the X type. And saying you drive a Jaaaag is way better than saying you drive a Ford.

For fun I just checked, here in the Netherlands X types are extremely cheap too, however still €1000-ish more expensive than a similar condition Mondeo of similar age.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes 12/04/2016 at 05:30

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Good diesel e46s are worth a good few quid more than a similar X Type yeah, petrol ones cost pennies because most cant afford the running costs.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 05:31

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Yes this is a brilliant idea :) X-Types are great value for what you get

If you’re feeling like you want to venture into a little speed-making, there’s a czech chap that does re-maps of those 2.2TD engines (in Peugeots, but it’s the same one) which make them pretty meaty and rev very cleanly compared to a stock one :) cheap too, for a remap

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > BvdV - The Dutch Engineer 12/04/2016 at 05:34

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Interesting, here theyre pretty similar. I actually used to own a Mondeo and it was decent but a bit too heavy (it was a mk4) and the interior was somewhat disappointing since it was only a Zetec.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 05:35

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Interesting, but makes sense as we didn’t get any diesel BMWs until the newer generations.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 12/04/2016 at 05:36

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Interesting, I’ll let you know if I decide to get one and look into that. I’ll have to wait a little while for finances to get better before making any purchases.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 05:44

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Sure thing :) let me know if you go ahead and I’ll put you in touch. I think his name’s Srdan or something along those lines, but that’s probably not overly helpful!

LongbowMkII > bob and john 12/04/2016 at 06:26

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It’s not like this is an XJ-S. It’s a fawhncy mondeo. Parts won’t be too bad to sneak around.

MultiplaOrgasms > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 07:47

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Yes lol.

Cé hé sin > bob and john 12/04/2016 at 07:52

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What is it? The X type is just a rebadged Mondeo and they’re fairly reliable.

Leon711 > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 08:09

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Fine until you tow something.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > MultiplaOrgasms 12/04/2016 at 08:09

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What does this strange Lancia have to do with an X Type?

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Leon711 12/04/2016 at 08:10

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Our caravan is pretty light, used to tow it with a 120bhp Laguna.

bob and john > Cé hé sin 12/04/2016 at 08:16

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not on this side of the pond they werent...

MultiplaOrgasms > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 08:22

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1. Styling

2. Posh version of a relatively bland mid-size car (in this case the Fiat Marea/ Alfa 156)

3. Dirt cheap.

Jagvar > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 08:38

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Get the wagon in British Racing Green.

TheBlacktopExperiment > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 11:16

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An odd thing I always found with the Jaguar X-type. Jaguar has always been known as a brand of style, and great performance. Yet in this generation, the entry-level X-type engine was a 155 HP 2.1 L V6. I mean, who the hell wants a 155 HP small displacement engine in a 3,600 lbs car? A freaking Chevrolet Malibu has more horsepower! You are going to be passed by cyclists on the highway. The only real demographic I could see choosing that engine is (maybe) extremely old people, 75 yrs and older, because they don’t pass 100 kph (62 mph) anyway. But even if I was 75 or 80, I want something peppy!

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 11:19

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I would recommend it, but a nice 2.2 X-type diesel isn’t very far off from, say, this .

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 11:25

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I like the X. I say go for it.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 11:53

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It’s a Contour/Mondeo in a fancy wood and leather suit, I don’t see much that could go wrong honestly.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > MultiplaOrgasms 12/04/2016 at 12:13

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2 and 3 I get but 1? Not seeing many similarities.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > TheBlacktopExperiment 12/04/2016 at 12:21

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Meh one of the diesels I’m looking at is 130bhp, but I guess we have different standards in the UK.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 12/04/2016 at 12:22

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You make a good point, although that one is a little rough around the edges.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Jagvar 12/04/2016 at 12:23

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Mmm yes. I am aiming to find an estate but they’re somewhat rare.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/04/2016 at 12:23

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Pretty much yeah.

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 12:58

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Watch the Chrisfix series on buying a second hand car, wich coincidentally features a similar Jag

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 12/04/2016 at 15:29

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He sums it up quite nicely, but I’ve bought enough/ helped others buy enough cars that I’m used to doing these things.

TheBlacktopExperiment > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/04/2016 at 17:24

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I suppose, eh? I always thought Jaguars were meant to be peppy or sporty. So you can understand my surprise when a base engine is that under-powered. What can you really expect out of a 2.1 L, 155 hp engine? And not in a small car either- a 3,600 lbs mid-size luxury car. This isn’t the late 1980s. This is 2001-2007. Pretty dismal to me.

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/05/2016 at 10:03

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I mentioned the video more because it featured the Jag than about buying/selling cars in general, He talks about some little things about these cars that he looks out for and I thought those could be helpful.

I’m curious as to what your experience with these cars will be, because I definately want to own one in the future.