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"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 11/30/2016 at 13:03 • Filed to: None

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Found 6 new Toyota Denso injectors, but they aren’t cheap. a set of 6 is nearly a grand.

I could get remanufactured for ALOT less but thats a mixed bag in my opinion.

What are your thoughts on remanufactured injectors?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:07

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Cummins swap time.

S65 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:08

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Doesn’t your LC have a UZ? Are these not for your LC or do you only need 6?

Wacko > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:09

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LSX swap!

make off-roading great again! 

HammerheadFistpunch > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/30/2016 at 13:12

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Not so legal where I live.

HammerheadFistpunch > S65 11/30/2016 at 13:12

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mine has the 1fz, not the V8

HammerheadFistpunch > Wacko 11/30/2016 at 13:13

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you can do it cheap...but not really. People who are much more skilled than I spend a minimum of 3-5 grand on an LS swap. Temping though. Plus in Utah I would have to get a GM e-rod engine for it to be legit so there goes the budget.

PotbellyJoe and 42 others > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:17

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Does it have to be Denso? Having never replaced injectors on a Toyota, but having replaced plenty of other parts, are there quality issues with the Standard ones, for example...

RutRut > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/30/2016 at 13:19

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Yes, so even more painfully expensive injectors can be bought.

HammerheadFistpunch > PotbellyJoe and 42 others 11/30/2016 at 13:19

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I don’t have any experience, but I do generally trust the name brand stuff more than the off brand stuff. Looking for advice. I found a place that sells reman. Denso from “ low mileage Japanese cars” for a great price...but...I have reservations.

vicali > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:22

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I’m in the pay to play/ buy once-cry once camp..

E90M3 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:22

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Solution: live somewhere else.

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:24

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Why not get the ones you have serviced? I did that for the wagon. Mr. Injector

They were all above 97% after 280k miles.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:28

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I once bought a “used engine from Japan” to replace the 1.8L engine in my Subaru XT. While it worked it felt underpowered compared to the old engine. I would be very tempted to go with the used injectors if they come with a warranty or return guarantee. Since I don’t know how hard the work is, or how long you intend on keeping the LC, I would factor that into consideration. If I was going to keep a rig for another 10 years I would buy new Factory OEM parts no questions asked, if it was going to be around for another year or two then used or remanufactured.

HammerheadFistpunch > E90M3 11/30/2016 at 13:28

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no

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > RutRut 11/30/2016 at 13:28

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Yes, but in something that will last even longer than the 1FZ, and propel it at a quicker rate. I was actually just joking, but if you can afford it, it’s worth it

HammerheadFistpunch > vicali 11/30/2016 at 13:29

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Me too, generally, but tis alot of moneies .

E90M3 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:30

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I didn’t say it was the correct solution, just a solution. Does Utah have strict emission requirements?

Frank Grimes > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:30

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Tons and tons of people buy injectors from shops that specialize in them. I would check into a legit performance type shop that will refurb injectors and flow test them and do all kinds of stuff to match them as a set. I think this would be a totally reliable way of doing it.

HammerheadFistpunch > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper 11/30/2016 at 13:30

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I had that done at RC engineering about 30,000 miles ago. They were all about the same. The one isn’t clogged, its solenoid is dead. Those services can’t predict or mitigate against that.

HammerheadFistpunch > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 11/30/2016 at 13:32

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Weighing that. I’ve been thinking about moving to a 100 series for a little while. What I really need is a car I can take to work that is cheap so I can avoid putting so many miles on the cruiser...but that fund is a lot healthy these days.

osucycler > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:33

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I haven’t used these guys personally but they made it into a bookmark for my engine research, might be worth a search and look:

http://www.witchhunter.com/

From their website so they have at least dealt with Toyota stuff at some point.

Denso - Coil windings will increase in resistance.

90's Toyota (various top colors)

Verify the resistance is within 10% of each other. Normally 12-14 ohms.

shop-teacher > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:33

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Let me ask you this: If a couple of injectors fail while you’re overlanding, how boned will you be?

I don’t honestly know the answer to that, but it seems like something you should consider.

HammerheadFistpunch > E90M3 11/30/2016 at 13:35

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yeah, we have a geologically amplified pollution issue so its pretty locked down.

HammerheadFistpunch > Frank Grimes 11/30/2016 at 13:35

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I put out a couple of feelers to shops like this, we’ll see what I can find.

Wacko > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:35

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there we go, logic and common sense prevails again.....

booo

crowmolly > osucycler 11/30/2016 at 13:36

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I have. They were great. However they don’t fix bad solenoids.

HammerheadFistpunch > shop-teacher 11/30/2016 at 13:36

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oh, I’m considering it. BONED! To get to the injectors requires lots of steps and would be a miserable field repair, even with the right spares.

RutRut > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/30/2016 at 13:37

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Assuming it was a 12 valve swap (most affordable which is a relative term) the 1FZ might be faster stock vs stock.

Frank Grimes > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:37

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good luck. finding parts can be the suck sometimes.

HammerheadFistpunch > osucycler 11/30/2016 at 13:39

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I used a shop like this to flow, repair and balance the injectors that are in there now. They flow great, but the solenoid on #2 died and would need to be completely rebuilt. I could do that, I could just replace the one...but...its a matter of WHERE I could be if another one failed.

I’m leaning towards a set either way.

osucycler > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:40

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Yeah probably safer for the piece of mind.

E90M3 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:40

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Did not know that.

HammerheadFistpunch > Wacko 11/30/2016 at 13:40

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Trust, me...I’ve mulled it over. You get way more power, less weight and better mileage with an LS swap, but I dislike the hodgepodgy nature of those and to do it right is more time and money that I want to think about.

HammerheadFistpunch > osucycler 11/30/2016 at 13:41

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given that this is what about 1500 of my annual miles are in this car...its more than likely it would fail in the worst of places.

HammerheadFistpunch > E90M3 11/30/2016 at 13:43

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yup, like China bad.

Its a cold air inversion where the mountains lock a pocket of cold air in the valley that prevents pollutants from escaping.

vicali > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:47

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Here’s the thing, if you ever want to sell it you will get the money back if you put in the right parts.. if you cheap out now you have nothing to back up the price you want to get out of it.

If you were buying right now and had two rigs, once cost more but used the right parts, the other cut corners with remans.. I know the one I would pick every time.

Textured Soy Protein > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:47

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Cheapest I could find on a quick search for Toyota part # 23209-74080 is $119.87 each here .

Supposedly these are a set of OE Denso ones from an Australian seller for $279 USD. They do at least have good ebay feedback.

shop-teacher > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 13:48

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Probably best to just suck it up and buy the new ones then, painful as that is.

HammerheadFistpunch > Textured Soy Protein 11/30/2016 at 13:53

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Thats not bad, better than the other place I found them.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 14:12

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always go custom

http://fuelinjectorclinic.com/

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > RutRut 11/30/2016 at 14:13

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Nah, surprisingly not a huge weight gain, not much hp loss, and nearly double the torque gain.

RutRut > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/30/2016 at 14:25

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With an incredibly limited powerband though.

The Snowman > HammerheadFistpunch 11/30/2016 at 23:46

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Is there no interchange? I know my TPI camaro ended up with mustang take out injectors when the originals went bad.

VCeXpedition > HammerheadFistpunch 12/01/2016 at 19:49

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Regarding breaking down on that lonesome dirt road. Akin to your fridge quitting on Black Friday. At 10 PM. And that just happened to me. So I have no doubt that if there was a crucial failure, it WOULD BE on a lonesome dirt road. At night. In a snowstorm. But that’s just my luck. Buy 6!

HammerheadFistpunch > VCeXpedition 12/01/2016 at 20:23

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Man talk about bad timing. Sorry bout the fridge though.