Let's play guess the quote

"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish) 11/10/2016 at 16:30 • Filed to: Damage

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Edit: First quote I’ve got is $295. Sanding and painting on the car I believe. He said it would be a bit cheaper if it didn’t need three coats, because of the pearl coat.

Well this is a fine end to my week.....

My coworker was trying to squeeze between my car, and a badly parked truck. He wasn’t successful, as you can see. I’m surprised how well my bumper held up, he has about a two foot long white paint mark along both his doors, and managed to dent his rear door. As far as I can tell, I only need mild paintwork. I don’t, however, have any idea how much this will cost, but my coworker was very apologetic and is going to cover whatever it winds up being. Now I have to decide what body shop to bring it to....

The beige is his paint, and I’m not sure what the black is. Maybe where my paint is fully scraped off, but I can’t tell.

Roadster Man > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:26

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a couple bucks of dish rags and some rubbing compound. It’ll buff riiiiiight out.

gmctavish needs more space > Roadster Man 11/10/2016 at 15:27

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I’m not so sure, it’s definitely down to the plastic at in a couple of the larger black spots a least. I was told that Subaru paint is thin, and it certainly looks that way

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:29

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$400.

Rainbow > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:29

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Yeah, I’d try buffing it out first. It looks like you did lose a bit of paint, but it might be such a small amount that you’d be better off just accepting a little bit of cash as an apology and leaving it as it is.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/10/2016 at 15:30

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My old Outback was rear ended by a Dodge Charger a while back. You can see where the + of the grill hit the bumper.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:31

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$2000 if the bumper needs to be replaced, $750 if you just need a sand, paint, and blend for that spot.

Monkey B > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:32

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Take some acetone and wipe off the majority, clean it with some compound, wax and touch up. Get through winter then worry about it if it still bugs you. $3-600 for getting a bumper painted.

Roadster Man > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:32

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I’m messing with you. Looks like a whole-panel respray. My guess is $1200 since they’ll need to re-paint the whole bumper.

I once tried to (paint-match) rattle can a peeling paint spot on my Miata. When I took the masking tape off after the clear coat, the thickness of the was really noticeable. Any reputable shop will recommend repainting the whole panel.

Sorry to hear this happened. “bump and run” I assume?

gmctavish needs more space > Rainbow 11/10/2016 at 15:33

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He’s not rolling in money, so I was thinking about that. But the car is in almost mint condition other than this, so it’s really noticeable....maybe I’ll try buffing it and seeing how much it helps, but I think I’m gonna get a quote first and figure out what I’m dealing with

gmctavish needs more space > Roadster Man 11/10/2016 at 15:35

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Yikes, I hope it’s not high, but you’re probably right. Colour-matching this is gonna suck...

Nah he came and told me right when it happened

facw > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 11/10/2016 at 15:36

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How much do bumpers cost these days? I’ve had three replaced on my cars, but each time it was less than $2000, and each included other significant bodywork.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > facw 11/10/2016 at 15:38

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The bumper isn’t the majority of the cost, the labor in blending the paint to the two fenders and trunk is.

Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 11/10/2016 at 15:39

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Yup. exactly. I would find another white bumper and just change them out.

fhrblig > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:42

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$3000. I say this because I haven’t had an estimate go below that in years no matter how light the damage was. I think they just arbitrarily pick that number.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:42

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To make it perfect, or presentable and unnoticed by most people?

Perfect... I’m going to say ~$500.

Presentable, $10-25 for polish and an hour or so. See below.

I fork over a little more cash on touchup paint if I wanted and it would be good as new.

facw > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:43

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Let’s say $250 for the bumper cover, another $250 to paint, and let’s say $200 to take the old one off and put the new one on. So $700 total. I feel like that is pessimistic estimate. Possibly the existing cover could be repainted depending on how scratched the plastic is, but I wouldn’t be shocked if just buying a new one is cheaper than prepping the old one.

notsomethingstructural > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:47

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You can probably get the whole bumper painted on-car for $150 from a decent shop. It’ll match fine to anyone who isn’t looking for it. Remove paint and reinstall probably $400. If you take it to a dealership for a respray then $1200 is not out of the question, but I hope you enjoyed whatever last discussion you had with your coworker.

Honestly that doesn’t look like mica paint so I would find a very very very good detailer who is experienced in touch-ups and see what they can do with $100-200. Non-mica paints blend well if you know what you’re doing, it’s just a slow process that’s best done by people who are experienced.

gmctavish needs more space > fhrblig 11/10/2016 at 15:49

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Jesus

Roadster Man > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:50

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Well at least the guy who hit you was honest. I’m in suburban New England, so my guesstimate is probably like $500 over what a decent shop somewhere else in the country might charge.

Klaus Schmoll > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:52

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I managed to get from this to that in less than five minutes.

Your picture looks like you will have some small black spots as well. A touch up pen can get blend those in quite well. It won’t be perfect, but you pretty much only see it if you know it’s ther/are actively looking for it. It’s worth a try, as you aren’t causing a body shop any additional work.

fhrblig > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 15:57

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Actually, I just remembered something. Back in the spring, one of my work fleet Versas got rear ended with some minor flexing of the bumper and a few marks, and it was pushed into the car in front but the only damage there was to the Nissan badge. All told, the entire bill came to just over $1k, so I bet it would be pretty close to that. Or less.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 16:06

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$1k or so.

gmctavish needs more space > notsomethingstructural 11/10/2016 at 16:14

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First shop I went to quoted me $295, on the car sanding and painting. I’ll look into good detailers around me, I like that idea

404 - User No Longer Available > notsomethingstructural 11/10/2016 at 16:19

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If you take it to a dealership for a respray then $1200 is not out of the question,

Yeah, but in reality, that dealer charging you $1200 is more than likely just taking it to that $150 shop and negotiating it down to $90.

Roadster Man > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 16:35

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I stand corrected! Sounds like your wallet won’t hurt too much.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 16:42

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I’d never suggest painting a bumper on a car, especially a three stage (pearl coat). Too much dirt trapped between the quarters/taillamps/etc and bumper to have a proper clean job, and the masking for a bumper on car is a nightmare, material buildup at the edge of the panel (again, especially on a tri-coat) are all issues.

Aside from that, a few here have suggested polishing, and that was my first thought. From the photos, it looks like 90% of the affected area is transfer on top of your clear, which should come off with relative ease using a fine rubbing compound and a fresh/clean microfiber towel.

gmctavish needs more space > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever 11/10/2016 at 16:56

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That’s good to know, I really don’t know anything about bodywork. I’m getting that suggestion enough that I think I’ll try that before I take it anywhere

Monkey B > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 17:01

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please, do what I suggested so you can see what is there, I see one spot that will remain, that spot top center. I can’t guarantee it because it’s a photo and there may be hairline cracking, but that’s what my experience is telling me. But if I’m right, all that gone and some touch up and only you will notice it.

I don’t trust people that vary estimates because they don’t know how many coats of pearl will be needed. The shit isn’t magical paint, it’s base coat sans pigment using pearl instead (simplifying slightly but that’s the gist of it). 2 vs. 3 coats on a small blend like this hardly changes the cost.

Dealers use touch up companies that can do small blends and save you some money. I like this approach because sometimes it’s unnecessary to get into painting the entire bumper for small damage and sometimes the less paint work the better. There is a downside to these guys, many aren’t very good. I’ve done this type of work and had it worthy to be on the showroom floor, I’ve also seen work that looks like your neighbors dog humped it with a paint roller. Check the local high line dealers for who they use. I don’t know what kind of car that is and how you keep it, so it’s tough to say if you should get it done the “right” way or find a cheaper alternative.

Monkey B > Monkey B 11/10/2016 at 17:26

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Here’s one example of something most would call crazy, but it looked great, was done properly and the owner was tickled avoiding the body shop.

old photos I took pictures of with my camera, needless to say it’s hard to judge photos of photos but I wanted to show you there are options that sound crazy but are viable. I remember my co worker taking these saying I’d want evidence I did things like this...it’s the only picture I have of thousands I’ve done like this from Neon’s to this. This was the early 00's and he just started carrying a digital camera since we did some pretty high end stuff for this particular customer, a now defunct credit card company. High end cars, antiques, private jets, a helicopter and luxury busses. Along with the regular fleet stuff. He did interior stuff, which is now what I do exclusively. I get told repeatedly I should add paint repair back to my services, but I prefer interior as it’s easier on me physically, less toxic and lower overhead.

notsomethingstructural > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 17:37

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Try to get recommendations. Someone really good will clay/compound/buff/prep the hell out of it, fill it, paint it, sand it, compound/buff again, etc. If it’s done correctly the paint will be totally flush and same gloss, and just slightly discolored if at all. Almost like it’s just stained.

jvirgs drives a Subaru > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 17:43

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This was quoted at $570

gmctavish needs more space > Monkey B 11/10/2016 at 17:44

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My plan now is to try what you suggested and decide from there. It’s a 2006 Legacy wagon, but basically in perfect condition except for a couple small scrapes from when my grandpa had it. I was planning on getting them fixed at a friends shop in Kelowna, so maybe I’ll buff this for now and get he touch up paint done next summer in Kelowna, because I know he’ll do a good job

Monkey B > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 17:53

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perfect, since it’s not perfect now it’ll do well being cleaned up for now. I do love that gen Legacy, my favorite. I’m probably going to look for a nice LGT wagon when some things are paid for and the lady has her own bike. If riding doesn’t suit her or she fails the MSF then I’ll get a better bike for 2 up, even though the ST is sufficient.

gmctavish needs more space > Monkey B 11/10/2016 at 18:04

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It should, yeah. It might as well wait for the other cosmetic things to be made perfect as well. Mine too, although I sometimes wish it was an LGT. For regular daily duties though, the EJ253 is enough.

Monkey B > gmctavish needs more space 11/10/2016 at 18:09

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I’d settle on a clean non GT. Be cheaper too. My current beater is an 02 Legacy Outback...it does fine and I have my wife’s 328 and my bike if I want to have fun.

cluelessk > jvirgs drives a Subaru 11/11/2016 at 02:42

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This seems like a more realistic price.

Decent paint materials will cost at least $200. It’s almost not worth trying to paint anything for under $500.

jvirgs drives a Subaru > cluelessk 11/11/2016 at 11:18

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Believe this includes taking the bumper off the car, stripping it down and repairing/repainting. They did a good job with my last bumper repair. Now if I can just get people to stop hitting my car in parking lots....