This

"Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow" (chriskf) 11/02/2016 at 14:38 • Filed to: None

15

29

is why we make fun of stance cars, and it’s okay to.

Simply unbelievable. SMDH

S65 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 14:43

2

Is stance ok if the car is bagged? I think so

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > S65 11/02/2016 at 14:45

5

I still don’t like it, but it is better and does eliminate some of the safety concerns. However, the insane camber and stretched tires aren’t fixed by air suspension.

Rainbow > S65 11/02/2016 at 14:45

4

As long as it’s not accompanied by 175 tires on 225 rims, then yes.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > S65 11/02/2016 at 14:53

11

!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!

No. Not if it’s bagged, not if it’s driven by a hag, not if it makes your dog’s tail wag, still no. Stance is not OK.

It’s permanently fucking up a car, rendering it exponentially worse to drive than stock. Think I’ve said it before, but you’re paying money to replicate four simultaneous catastrophic ball joint failures.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Rainbow 11/02/2016 at 14:54

3

So that’s a no then?

facw > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 14:54

3

I don’t get how anyone can deal with stance. My little sedan with stock suspension bottoms out all the time (apparently Volvo didn’t consider the crapiness of American, or the extreme steepness of Texas driveways). How anyone could want to take a couple more inches off is insane to me, you’d just hit everything.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever 11/02/2016 at 14:54

1

DING DING DING!

This is the correct answer.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > facw 11/02/2016 at 14:55

2

Because DGAF YOLO JDM, bro!

Chariotoflove > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 15:05

2

“What the puck” indeed.

Mercedes Streeter > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 15:16

2

That car is a crime against humanity. :o

shop-teacher > S65 11/02/2016 at 15:27

4

If the camber isn’t crazy at ride height and the tires aren’t stretched, then it’s not so bad (I mean, it still looks horrible, but let your freak flag fly). Stretched tires and obscene camber themselves are unsafe though.

for Michigan > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 15:36

5

In addition to how unsafe this is, I hate to think of all the damage done to the roads that scraped all of that metal off. Like our roads aren’t already awful enough.

Berang > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 15:40

2

http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/why-we-all-owe-stance-culture-a-huge-apology-1736757215

But that guy who hates good cars said stance was good.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 15:50

2

I wish I could star this more than once.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > for Michigan 11/02/2016 at 16:03

3

As someone who lives in Chicagoland, I concur.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > interstate366, now In The Industry 11/02/2016 at 16:04

3

*star*
*unstar*
*star*
*unstar*
*star*
*unstar*
*star*

Dammit! It’s a net gain!

fourvalleys > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 16:07

1

You only #YOLO once. #YOYOLOO

BigBlock440 > for Michigan 11/02/2016 at 16:09

1

Meh, scrapes don’t do any substantial damage. Water, salt, and freeze/thaw cause the holes and probably most of the buckles. Big trucks cause the rest. I dislike stanced cars as much as the next guy, but road damage is about the weakest argument against them that you could have.

MPA > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 16:17

1

That is crazy

derf > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever 11/02/2016 at 16:47

0

 you’re paying money to replicate four simultaneous catastrophic ball joint failures.

That made me laugh, and I’m filing it away for future use. Bravo, sir.

Justino6969 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/02/2016 at 22:14

1

Hey, at least they’re ‘official’ pucks.

Tristan > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/03/2016 at 01:49

1

That poor Miata... It’s completely totaled.

Rykilla303 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/03/2016 at 16:18

0

Safety is a secondary concern sometimes. I say that without sarcasm. I’d rather love my car than be safe. So would these hooligans, so more power to them.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Rykilla303 11/03/2016 at 16:26

0

It’s not just a matter of their safety though, it’s a matter of other’s safety. Driving a stanced car on public roads presents an inherent danger to other motorists. If somebody want to kill themselves doing something dumb in their car, that’s their own choice. However, it is not their choice to make to endanger others. Sure, we all do “dangerous” things in cars, like exceed speed limits. But to drive a car that is built in a manner the significantly diminishes its functionality and safety is another matter in my book. Loving your car and having it be functionally sounds/safe to drive shouldn’t be mutually exclusive in any circumstance.

Rykilla303 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/03/2016 at 17:55

0

I think you’re hyper focused on stanced cars because you dont like them. Cars with overly bright lights are a danger, lifted trucks are a danger, toyota carollas with bald tires are a danger....

I guarantee the way I’ve modified my truck makes it far more dangerous to others than a stanced car that gets squirrely on bumps. (Lifted, 35" tires, 3/8th plate steel bumpers)

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Rykilla303 11/03/2016 at 18:14

0

Perhaps in a way you’re right, but it’s not just that I like them. In fact, I’ve even found some stanced cars appealing. Admittedly not any with insane camber though, more so some of the VIP style cars. 

I’m fully aware that other modifications can present new/increased dangers in certain situations. But your 35" tires aren’t significantly diminished the contact patch of the rubber, which plays one of the largest roles in ensuring that your vehicles can properly brake and turn to avoid accidents. Yes, the lift likely affected the handling, but I think it’s a less egregious move toward road safety.

The main gripe for me with stance cars is the extreme camber and stretched tires. It is purposefully compromising one of the most important components, in relation to handling and stopping, on your vehicle. A Corolla with bald tires is terribly unsafe as well, the difference is that there’s not a sub-culture of Corolla enthusiasts swapping on bald tires to show them off to their friends. If there was, I’d be bashing them too. I will condemn people who knowingly drive around, in non-stanced cars, on bald/unsafe tires too.

Rykilla303 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/03/2016 at 19:12

0

Trust me, that large contact patch isnt always doing me more favors, LOL. It would roll when others would slide, it follows road features, takes much farther to brake, makes the steering really imprecise, and god help the vehicle or pedestrian that it would hit.

...and it’s usually just a toy, but I lent out my car for a month, so it’s my daily driver for a while.

Nauraushaun > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/04/2016 at 19:36

1

I love how, as well as the damage done from being too low, there are signs of general shoddy work and lack of maintenance. Allows me to get my judgement on hard

It’s a shame that these people are considered car enthusiasts. The car is fucked and falling apart because the owner is an idiot. It’s like calling someone a duck enthusiast because they like killing ducks.

JGrabowMSt > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 11/25/2016 at 00:11

0

Technically, I drive a stanced car. I say that cautiously.

The HEMIWagon is lowered, the alignment is not stock and it does scrape the bumper or exhaust once in a while. I dont enjoy that part, but its the exception, not the rule.

While I can enjoy the look of some stanced cars, I am not a fan of the “stancenation” idea of slamming a car on the ground and destroying it. Ive been under quite a few cars that are raced regularly and are very low for aero purposes, and have few scrape marks, even on the front splitter. People are welcome to like what they like, yes. All I have to say about the matter is that the featured Miata would certainly not survive a low speed impact, much less protect the occupants at a higher speed. That chain reaction would certainly become someone elses problem that otherwise would go about their day, go home and see their kids, their spouse, what have you.

Safety is a broader concept that encompasses everyone and people either understand it and respond accordingly, or they dont.