Small, reliable hatch for $13 -14k ?

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11/01/2016 at 16:21 • Filed to: Oppositelock

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Hello Oppo -

Scenario: Family member wants recommendation for:

Small (smaller than last car, which was ‘13 CRV)

Reliable.

Wagon / hatch preferred for utility (frequently does photography for bands)

Relatively new/low miles

Budget: $13,000 to $14,000

Automatic trans

My suggestions were:

Toyota Rav4 (Yes, I know Rav4 is the same class as CRV)

Honda Fit

Scion xB

Appreciate any suggestions or recommendations

edit changed to hatch


DISCUSSION (42)


Kinja'd!!! PanchoVilleneuve ST > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:25

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I can vouch for the xB being fun as fuck to drive. And small. And reliable as rocks.


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:28

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If you could go older, I’d say Volvo V50. You could buy at least a couple in that budget.

Also consider the second-gen Kia Soul (first gen ones are no bueno) - they’re pretty nice, crazy roomy for their size (much bigger than a Fit), short front-to-rear (easy to park), and pretty cheap. It’s today’s equivalent of the original xB, only even bigger. Springing for a little above that budget would get a brand new one with the whole 10-year 100k mile warranty, too.


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > PanchoVilleneuve ST
11/01/2016 at 16:30

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And they all seem to have the trim over the license plate frame falling off. Also I realize this one is badges as a honda, probably why I took the picture.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:30

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Buick Roadmaster. Buy ten of them.


Kinja'd!!! MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:31

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Subaru WRX (not STI)

Ford Fiesta or Focus


Kinja'd!!! LongbowMkII > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:34

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Acura TSX sportwagon

Mazda5


Kinja'd!!! PanchoVilleneuve ST > E90M3
11/01/2016 at 16:34

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That and the lower rear bumper piece was seemingly designed to be scuffed by snowdrifts.


Kinja'd!!! kincai28 > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:35

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How about the Scion iM? They can be had practically brand new for slightly above their price range.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Used+Cars/Scion/iM?endYear=2017&firstRecord=0&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&makeCode1=SCION&mmt=%5BSCION%5BSCIIM%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=SCIIM&showcaseListingId=0&showcaseOwnerId=0&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=1981&Log=0


Kinja'd!!! TysMagic > LongbowMkII
11/01/2016 at 16:36

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the TSX wagon is a thing of beauty


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:36

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Impreza? Golf? Corolla iM? Focus? Gen 4 Legacy or Outback wagon? Lancer Sportback? Cooper Clubman?


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:37

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None of those are wagons.


Kinja'd!!! CalzoneGolem > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:39

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Kia Soul. You can also get a brand new one with a warranty for that kind of money.


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
11/01/2016 at 16:40

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I wouldn’t wish the Ford DCT on anyone, especially someone hoping for a reliable car...


Kinja'd!!! Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:41

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I’d vote Mazda3, Focus, or the iM.

Veloster is also an option, although less utilitarian than they actually appear.


Kinja'd!!! PotbellyJoe and 42 others > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:42

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Don’t you forget about me.

This is a dynamite little hatchy -wagon the Scion xD. 1.8L Corolla motor, but with variable exhaust timing as well as intake. pretty comfortable for the long haul and platform motable for its reliability.

I also own a Pontiac Vibe GT and that thing has been dynamite for us with the kids and activities.


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > CalzoneGolem
11/01/2016 at 16:43

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I mentioned it, too. They’re sort of the modern equivalent of the first-gen xB.


Kinja'd!!! CalzoneGolem > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2016 at 16:44

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Yeah, I’ll buy that.


Kinja'd!!! Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:44

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Impreza 09-14.
Kia Soul
Scion xB
Scion xD


Kinja'd!!! ZoopZoopLoops > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 16:45

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Lexus IS300 wagon. But not new, not low miles.


Kinja'd!!! MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2016 at 16:46

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The automatics are bad? I haven’t really looked into them, but I can’t say I’ve really heard anything bad about them either.


Kinja'd!!! Eric @ opposite-lock.com > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
11/01/2016 at 16:52

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The DCTs in the US-made Fiestas and Focuses are the reason they (and Ford) have such terrible ratings over the last handful of years...


Kinja'd!!! Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > TysMagic
11/01/2016 at 17:01

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Good luck finding one in the price range though. At least, the last time I looked they were all over $15k.


Kinja'd!!! jkm7680 > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 17:02

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Subaru Outback.


Kinja'd!!! MemoGidleyfan > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 17:02

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In that price range, probably a Toyota Matrix? The 1st gen has opening rear hatch glass so you can carry really long stuff.

Not too fun; not too fast; but hits all 6 criteria solidly


Kinja'd!!! MemoGidleyfan > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 17:02

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In that price range, probably a Toyota Matrix? The 1st gen has opening rear hatch glass so you can carry really long stuff.

Not too fun; not too fast; but hits all 6 criteria solidly


Kinja'd!!! TysMagic > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle
11/01/2016 at 17:19

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probable, I know the TSX sedan can be found in that range


Kinja'd!!! My X-type is too a real Jaguar > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 17:53

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Mini Cooper Clubman, you might be able to find a manual.


Kinja'd!!! smobgirl > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
11/01/2016 at 18:24

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...small?


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > My X-type is too a real Jaguar
11/01/2016 at 18:49

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I whole heartedly agree however one of the requirements is an auto. Its a good thing the clubman isn’t based on the R50 so it doesn’t have the awful CVT.


Kinja'd!!! itranthelasttimeiparkedit > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 18:56

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e39 for $5k and put the 10k away for maintenance =p


Kinja'd!!! G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 19:12

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I know it’s not a wagon, but what about a used Hyundai Veloster? The DCT is actually fairly good, it comes with tons of toys, and has space for all kinds of light rigs and disassembled background frames.


Kinja'd!!! Saracen > My X-type is too a real Jaguar
11/01/2016 at 20:41

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‘cept that “Reliable” is a prerequisite.


Kinja'd!!! Tim Stewart - Scooter Overlord > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 20:55

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Volvo C30 T5! Oh the perfection


Kinja'd!!! Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > wantafuncar
11/01/2016 at 21:02

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You can probably guess what I’m going to recommend...

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Well, Consumer Reports lists it as a wagon instead of a minivan. Sliding doors are the greatest thing ever invented. Most are automatics, although mine has the rare 6MT. Other than having to replace a motor mount, mine has been perfectly reliable in the 4+ years I’ve owned it. 6 seats if you need them (I haven’t used the third row in over two years), otherwise 4 comfortable seats and lots of storage space. You can easily find a low-mileage, late model in your price range. Best car I’ve ever owned, and I’ve owned a lot of good, expensive stuff over the years.


Kinja'd!!! DarkCreamyBeer > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2016 at 22:22

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Ford DCT: Worst transmission I’ve ever owned.


Kinja'd!!! IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > wantafuncar
11/02/2016 at 01:11

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Volvo V50? Saab 9-3 Sportcombi?


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > smobgirl
11/02/2016 at 08:25

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None of the things they listed are wagons anyway, so figured I should recommend the wagon that’s most wagon.


Kinja'd!!! smobgirl > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
11/02/2016 at 12:14

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Totally fair :) I know my perception of small is pretty skewed too.


Kinja'd!!! SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > smobgirl
11/02/2016 at 12:19

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Same. My MR2's not all that small, is it? I mean, it dwarfs an OG mini... The lack of small wagons available is a shame though considering how many were available in the 90s with the Escort, Corolla, Accord, Civic, Saturn, and a ton that I’m missing all being available in wagon form.


Kinja'd!!! LeaksOil > jkm7680
11/02/2016 at 19:46

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That ain’t smaller than a CRV.


Kinja'd!!! LeaksOil > wantafuncar
11/02/2016 at 19:48

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Elantra GT?


Kinja'd!!! wantafuncar > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
11/02/2016 at 21:03

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Yes, I know. I meant to say hatchback. now edited