I don't condone political revolution and overthrowing of governments

"CB" (jrcb)
10/05/2016 at 22:25 • Filed to: Torontolopnik

Pictured: a highway at least eight and a half times worse than the 401.

But if someone did that and promised to destroy the Don Valley Parking Lot Parkway, I’d be pretty on board for that. No, I’m not mad that a stretch of road that usually takes three minutes to drive took forty minutes. Why do you ask?

DISCUSSION (35)

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > CB
10/05/2016 at 22:32

I forbid the 401 & DVP. I have lots of family in KW area, and go there 3-4 times a year. I have to go down there this weekend, I just might pay the price for the 407 this time.

CB > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 22:37

It’ll probably be worth it. I don’t usually mind the 401 depending on the time of day. The DVP is always something I want to avoid, though.

The lame part about the DVP is that northbound from Lakeshore, there aren’t any off ramps until the Bayview Extension. So, if an accident happens at the Extension, then there’s no escape. Whoever designed this road should be fired.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > CB
10/05/2016 at 22:41

but the 401 is always busy, even at 2:30am on a Wednesday.

OPPOsaurus WRX > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 22:45

Sounds like 93 going through Boston. That one sucks too

CB > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 22:46

True enough. Nothing like those 2 am traffic jams.

It’s kind of funny, when my girlfriend flies in, we always arrange it depending on traffic. Meanwhile, when flying to her, it was like “whatever, there’s no traffic here anyway”.

Mid Engine > CB
10/05/2016 at 22:57

Curious.. why live in Toronto? Asking for a friend

CB > Mid Engine
10/05/2016 at 22:58

I was born and raised here and returned home while I try to sort some of my life out. Other reasons to live in Toronto? Uhhh... you got me there.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > OPPOsaurus WRX
10/05/2016 at 22:58

but the 401 is the most busy hwy in north america, on a busyy day it twill see over 500,000 ars.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > CB
10/05/2016 at 23:01

When people fly in and ask what the best time of day is for traffic, I tell them any time, any day.

Mid Engine > CB
10/05/2016 at 23:03

So, it’s not the Leafs?

wafflesnfalafel > CB
10/05/2016 at 23:03

Well now here’s your problem - you need to devote two of the three lanes each way to electric, hybrid and pilotless vehicles only.

smobgirl > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 23:03

Wait til they decide it needs to be rerouted underground. Unprecedented clusterfuckery.

CB > Mid Engine
10/05/2016 at 23:05

I’m a Sens fan. The Leafs are dead to me.

CB > smobgirl
10/05/2016 at 23:06

Oh, that’s the plan for another one of our highways. The one currently falling onto the road below it. Yeah, that’ll be great to deal with.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > CB
10/05/2016 at 23:08

You have to be a Jays fan. A Blue Jays clothing item comes with the package of moving to Toronto.

CB > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 23:10

Didn’t move here (well, I moved back, but that doesn’t count). Don’t think I have a single Jays thing. But yeah, I dig the Jays.

smobgirl > CB
10/05/2016 at 23:11

Denver now wants to do that too. Thankfully work is debating rail passes for us so I can still function when the airport is suddenly twice as far away.

Mid Engine > CB
10/05/2016 at 23:13

Jays? awright.. I guess that’s legit in some ways, but hockey is kinda important (ex-Montrealer)

CB > Mid Engine
10/05/2016 at 23:16

Hah, you know, I think I’d take a Habs fan over a Leafs fan any day.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > CB
10/05/2016 at 23:17

Everyone was a Jays fan in their last game.

CB > smobgirl
10/05/2016 at 23:22

Sometimes I wonder if the people who plan these projects/cities in general actually have any idea what they’re doing.

Mid Engine > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 23:29

Toronto has always been a mystery to me, I lived in Montreal for 48 years. I never understood the supposed mystique of the GTA, if you want to be a big American city, then be in the U.S. The wannabe thing is weird, Canuck attempt at Chicago or Dallas? North of the city is okay, my folks lived in Aurora and my brother lived in Barrie.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Mid Engine
10/05/2016 at 23:34

I don’t live in Toronto, just north of Barrie. I have family in KW area and often drive though Toronto.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Mid Engine
10/05/2016 at 23:52

This might seem off topic but remember that hit & run that happen on the 25th? That was one of my dads company trucks, it was later found with the bed full of illegal cigs & booze. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/hit-and-run-truck-was-stolen-1.3779603

Mid Engine > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 23:59

Well done, sir. I’ve never met anyone who sez “I’m from Toronto”, I guess that’s something people wanna avoid?

I lived in Brossard, Dollard des Ormeaux, Pierrefonds, and Kirkland. Anyone outside of the province (or country) asked me where I lived, I said Montreal.

I live in the Seattle area now, 20 miles north of the city. Anyone asks, I live in Seattle. I think both Montreal and Seattle are fine cities, why is it in the GTA you need to disassociate from the city? Curious mostly

valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option > CB
10/06/2016 at 00:26

I hate the DVP although my commute on it is always against traffic and for only a short portion.

What do you replace it with? Unfortunately there aren’t many better options. Maybe if one lane is dedicated for the 401 ramps it might help things out a bit seeing as how there is always a traffic jam approaching the 401 from both north and southbound lanes. Or you can teach people to lane change properly. Or you can just wait for autonomous cars.

Jarrett - [BRZ Boi] > valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option
10/06/2016 at 06:58

We could always use the GO train.

pfffftbahahahaha.

Jarrett - [BRZ Boi] > Mid Engine
10/06/2016 at 07:01

Had I a choice, I wouldn’t live within 100km of it.

I dont like crowds or traffic.

Jobs are the reason people stay.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Mid Engine
10/06/2016 at 07:25

Toronto is so clean. And people are quite nice. It is actually a very fun city to spend time in too. I bet winter is a bit harsh but the rest of the year is great there. I only spent a weekend in Toronto and I am used to the “grunginess” of NYC so that would explain why I found it so nice there. It felt kinda like a good mix between a European and American city. Like the best of both worlds.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/06/2016 at 07:27

I was quite confused when I got on the Subway before a Blue Jays game. Sure I am used to seeing lots of people with Yankees ball caps and maybe a jersey or two while near Yankee Stadium in NY. But Torono was a whole different extreme. Literally 100% of the people other than my girlfriend and I were in head to toe attire for the game. Then when we got out to the street, it was just a sea of blue!

valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option > Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]
10/06/2016 at 07:51

I ride my bicycle along the DVP trails to work as often as I can. It was only when I started doing that did I find out there’s in fact a GO train that runs along that corridor.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > CB
10/06/2016 at 08:06

While the parking lot sucks, destroying it makes no sense. (See also: Gardiner Expressway.) It’s dead slow because it carries a shitton of traffic. As it stands it sucks in those who think the highway must be the fastest way to get places and leaves the rest of us with alternate routes. Please don’t fill those routes on me...

Better plan, reengineer. (Again, see also: Gardiner Expressway.) Sure it’s hard now because it should have been done many years ago, but there aren’t really any options. The DVP needs at least one more lane in each direction. Nice they made it such an easy job by not pinching the road with some lovely double arch bridges... wait. As far as the Gardiner goes, it’s kind of late for that now that a distinct lack of foresight has condos right next to the roadway. Instead I would be satisfied with making the lanes narrow and squeezing another in on each side, even if it meant lowering the speed limit it’s still faster than “stopped”.

CB > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
10/06/2016 at 08:22

Well yeah, of course it would be replaced in this grand scheme. I just want to see it destroyed out of rage.

I also think the Gardiner needs to be stretched out further to connect up to the 401 on the east side of it, but that’ll never happen either. Can’t wait to leave the city!

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > CB
10/06/2016 at 08:24

Actually what I think the DVP, Gardiner and most of the city streets need now is the completion of the long-cancelled Allen Expressway. Unfortunately the only way to do that now is tunnel it down to the Gardiner. So... tunnel it down to the Gardiner.

Jarrett - [BRZ Boi] > valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option
10/06/2016 at 12:24

The really depressing part is that despite the traffic, the train is still slower if you’re coming from somewhere like Durham. (and it’s like $16 round trip per day)