10/9!

"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse) 09/10/2015 at 14:15 • Filed to: Land Rover, 109

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We took to the air for 1/09 so for 10/9 we’re sticking to the road, mud, gravel and anywhere else you can take a Land Rover (no, not a Defender, just a Land Rover)

The LR began commercial life in 1948 with an 80 inch wheelbase and no choice. As time went on more space was realised to be a good thing so the 80 inch model grew to 86 and a 107 inch long wheelbase model arrived.

All well and good until 1956 when a diesel was somewhat belatedly decided upon ( I couldn’t imagine the thought of a petrol-only LR nowadays!) and even more space was needed to accommodate this. The 86 and 107 became the 88 and 109 respectively and remained so for the next 25 years.

Have a 109 station wagon.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Cé hé sin 09/10/2015 at 14:25

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This is my new favourite day.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Cé hé sin 09/10/2015 at 14:37

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Land-Rover with a hyphen, even. Not just “not a Defender”. We Series types are very odd in our snobbery. I admit not being as familiar with the SIs, I’m not sure where the 2” would be added to wheelbase that would make the slightest bit of difference to engine space, other than maybe the front axle position? Looking at the below, it does look like the arch in the front fender is enlarged slightly, leaving the appearance of the same size as before but not the reality. You can notice the difference in the bonnet length, absolutely.

I don’t know why the 2.0l diesel and subsequent (related) 2.25 petrol are longer than the 2.0 IOE petrol - the 2.0 diesel/2.25 is siamese bore like the 2.0, so I can’t see it gaining more than *maybe* an inch from that. Not three. I guess the timing cover on the 2.0 was really that cramped? Odd, that.

I can tell you that the belt on a later one isn’t *under* the thermostat housing quite like this.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Cé hé sin 09/10/2015 at 14:41

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I’ve seen more of these 16”s wearing some version of that Eagle tread than any other. Odd, really. Also, Selectro-family locking hubs and LHD, but a Euro front plate? How odd. Maybe the (I thought America only) Selectros were also sold in Germany (where I think this is).

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Cé hé sin 09/10/2015 at 15:11

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Ooooooooh yesssssss

Cé hé sin > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 09/10/2015 at 15:35

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Well, if Wiki is to be believed (and who wouldn’t?) they extended the wheelbase by 2” and moved the front crossmember an inch forward, all to accommodate the diesel. They kept the 107” station wagon for some time as they didn’t intend selling it as adiesel.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Cé hé sin 09/10/2015 at 15:44

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Right - I was assuming Wikipedia was correct to some extent, I’d just never investigated that before, so I did that comparison. The 1:1 comparison in pictures of an 86 and an 88 seems to bear things out: 2” of stretch to the front fenders and frame, pushing the front axle forward, and the “breakfast” and front crossmember moving forward an inch, for about 3” total increase in the engine compartment, and a much longer bonnet. Everything behind the firewall appears unchanged. Mostly it just came as a surprise that the 2.0 petrol was that much shorter, though given that the 2.6 petrol six is much less than 50% longer than a 2.25, it would seem more obvious in hindsight.