Did I design the Range Rover Evoque?

"4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30" (4muddyfeet) 09/09/2015 at 19:41 • Filed to: Evoque

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Back in Feb 2007, second year university, I completed a design project in collaboration with Land Rover. The project was to design an urbanised-but-still-a-Land-Rover Land Rover that appealed to a younger audience. The project was only a couple of months long over the Christmas period, but gave me some useful connections and taught me a way of working which eventually led me into and then out of the industry. Our entire projects were sent away to Land Rover for marking, with our tutors having final say after Land Rover had given their opinion. I received an OK-ish grade if I remember correctly.

Tonight I’ve been going through my old design works, and I opened the ‘Uni’ folder for a good chuckle. Lo and behold, the Land Rover project came along, and popped in the top left corner of this display board is...

...something a bit Evoque-y. I do remember drawing it, but it wasn’t ever to be my final design, only an exploration sketch, so was pushed to the wayside.

The LRX concept debuted in Dec 2007.

Obviously it’s not exactly the same, but the headlights and grille share remarkable similarities, along with the high belt and snub-nose. Just sayin’...

RallyWrench > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/09/2015 at 19:49

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Royalties! Nice sketches, by the way. I had dreams of attending the Art Center in Pasadena when I was younger. Thus, I did something similar with the Ferrari 550 Maranello in high school, though not rendered to the same level. I just drew what I thought a new Daytona would look like and it turns out it was almost a dead ringer for the 550 that came out couple of years later.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > RallyWrench 09/09/2015 at 19:56

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Ha! I wish. If it was anything like the Triumph project we did, then the collaborator gets sole rights :/

Matt Hardigree > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/09/2015 at 21:04

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You’re pretty good at sketching, what are you doing now?

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > Matt Hardigree 09/09/2015 at 21:11

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Thanks Matt, I design and build gardens now. Quite the departure!

OPPOsaurus WRX > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/09/2015 at 21:33

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all as a kid i wanted to go to art school to design cars . I ended up as an architect which is still pretty fun.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/09/2015 at 22:19

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It’s not as fantastic as you’d imagine, you made the right choice!

lucky8ballcars > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 17:59

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just to rub it in a bit more, I wad driving down the Fosse Way today, and was overtaken by a Jag SUV and a range rover evoque cabriolet both wrapped in disguise prototype vinyl, and both likely to make their company billions. They looked nice. You did a great job.

noneof > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:00

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No.

Fragile_this_side_up > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/10/2015 at 18:01

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Do you drive a Saab? If not, why not? :)

StuntmanDan > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:03

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When I was in college we did a project for ‘a defense contractor’ where we were looking for possibilities to defend military vehicles from RPG’s. My group decided on a concept and I did a 3D model of a Humvee with a post on each side and 3-4 tubes coming off of each post with countermeasures in each. Tell me if you don’t see that on almost every deployed military vehicle nowadays. The system looks just like what we thought up. Of course no royalties for us, just free labor!

Tom > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:03

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Can you shed some light on why designers won’t step away from the conventional aesthetic when drawing up a concept car? High hip line, razor thin windows, GIGANTIC wheels, zero wheel gap, etc. I understand it pulls influence from racing, but dear lord, these things are starting to make it to production and it’s not practical at all.

DerW220 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:08

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The headlights and certain other aspects look more relative to a newer Discovery Sport to me.

Matt Wood > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:11

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If I had a nickel for every time I’d seen that happen in the automotive industry I’d probably have a whole dollar at this point!

ZoopZoopLoops > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:11

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Victoria Beckham designed the RR Evoque.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Fragile_this_side_up 09/10/2015 at 18:11

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No cuz wrx. ..?

RazoE > RallyWrench 09/10/2015 at 18:13

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Art Center was my second choice. I ended up going to Art Institute of California Los Angeles...I....I didn’t last long. Broke 17 year old = no money for supplies =/

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:17

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C’mom bro. Posh Spice design the Evoque?

monkeyracing > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:18

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No, but you might have a case against Jeep for using your tail lamp design on the Cherokee.

Fragile_this_side_up > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/10/2015 at 18:20

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Should be a 9-2 Aero. I am disappoint.

tapzz > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:23

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Every era seems to have a shape that’s knocking around every car designer’s head.

In the ‘90s, the nuggety shape of the first Audi TT got sketched by loads of people before and after the launch of the concept. In the early ‘00s, I guess the Aston Martin DB9 took up that position, and for the ‘10s, it’s still that Evoque.

You’re in good company

JaqcuesCampbell > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:28

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this is awesome you rule dude

2cvhoonage > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:29

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Yes, and I designed the Ferrari 458 when I was 13, I just don’t get the fucking credit for it. 2nd year at Coventry university now, someday I dream of having my designs stolen the way you did...

RallyWrench > RazoE 09/10/2015 at 18:30

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Yeah, I understand that. Turns out college costs money, and also I wasn’t very good.

Declan Hackett > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:47

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Definitely looks similar - I’m sure Northumbria University will be straight on to them, since unfortunately, the university own the copyright to all work carried out as part of your course!

When I was retraining in graphic design, they actually claimed copyright over any work carried out on the premises! Even if I was doodling stuff on my own Mac for my own entertainment…

Aldairion > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 18:48

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Nice work! I experienced something similar with the Aston Martin Vulcan .

StayPutReachJump > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/10/2015 at 19:10

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Hey, me too!

GRAVITIS > tapzz 09/10/2015 at 19:12

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I agree, even when you are not asked to re-invent a classic car, same theme, different designers, the result is similar for that era, for example I still have drawings of identical Mini. Anyway do you tell me what’s the trick to be listed in Jalopnik ? Please, I wish to release a news...!

JRider24 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 19:15

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You obviously have taken some mid level industrial design classes, and these are a good start for ideation. However, this is a different design. The side section, Grill proportion and DLO are different. Cut lines indicate your design is a 4 Door and none of the graphics match.

Wranglerenegade > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 19:21

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No, you designed the Ford Edge.

Gripevo1 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 19:25

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did you work in the industry?

Gripevo1 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 19:48

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I sketched this in my second year in Transportation Design(2006)..I actually think i made a decent guess about the future of BMW’s surface language/graphic element design. But of course, i really was just doing what we are trained to do in school- take exsisting brand designs(production and concepts) and make an educated guess on which rough direction their styling will go(aka what is already in the studio).

Now that I have some experience in the industry i can say that sometimes there are just styling trends that design students tend to mimic, and the above sketch is just me expressing what my peers, teachers and industry was inevitability heading towards anyways. Nice work though !

IDer2 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 20:02

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Nah, but yours have been reserved for their up coming mini van.

Josh G > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 20:05

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If you wan’t any ID work I’m looking for for form development, short projects, 4-8 hours here and there, got one live.

Sam > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 20:16

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Is there a chance that Land Rover designers saw your drawings, even in passing?

Scweenname > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 20:21

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“...but gave me some useful connections and taught me a way of working which eventually led me into and then out of the industry.”

I got my feet wet in the car design culture back in 2013 (one semester at CCS in Detroit for a masters) only to jump out faster than I got in. It wasn’t exactly the match made in heaven I thought it would be, even though I was actually doing very well there. What’s your story for leaving?

GeeEcksPee > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 20:26

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You could say that your design is a bit...

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Evoque- ative.

Garland - Last Top Comment on Splinter > Fragile_this_side_up 09/10/2015 at 20:31

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Bwahaha, I drive a 900 and I tried to be an architect. The program at my university was absurdly difficult to get into, so I ended up with just a history degree (my original plan was to double major because I wanted to do things like restorations, appropriate additions to older buildings, and designing new building to complement historic districts).

Garland - Last Top Comment on Splinter > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 20:49

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“Land Rover that appealed to a younger audience.”

Well, from this millenial’s perspective, they did. I absolutely loathe 99% of modern car design, but I really like the Evoque. I saw one in the metal for the first time this week, and it looked amazing in a slate blue metallic. The sad, sad irony for Land Rover is that one of my most highly-valued traits in a vehicle is reliability, which means I’ll never, ever buy one.

Ian McDowell > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 21:00

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they are similar in that they have a 3/4 view, are fairly square, and have four wheels. Don’t seen other line that is even remotely similar. Not trying to shit on you, just being honest. Your drawing is cool, but it doesn’t share any features with the evoque, the rake on the roof is in the OPPOSITE direction. Your drawing looks more like a Chevy volt than a evoque

screen my name > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 21:05

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Yeah as a student I also thought I designed everything before anyone else. Then you realize that you also copied most concept sketches you’ve seen from car companies or other design students, just like any other modern acclaimed designers.

Nice stealth brag for anyone impressed by students sketches though.

toondood > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 21:05

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I was a transportation design major at art center in pasadena. Trust me, this happens all the time and is purely coincedental. I remember one student even tried suing a car company, thinking they ripped off his design for the Pontiac Solstice. Your situation happens more often than not.

Michael Cohen > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 21:41

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I do product development in furniture. Designers come up with similar designs independently all the time. They also steal without attribution.

SkiFree777 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/10/2015 at 23:50

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If what you say is true then I designed the 458. You’re welcome.

Phil > GeeEcksPee 09/10/2015 at 23:53

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I have tears in my eyes from laughing so hard!

Raditya > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 00:03

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I think what you did design is a ford edge :D

Kin Polaj > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 00:10

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Well considering everyone here thinks any coupe with a pseudo hoffmeister kink is an accord, id say thats exactly like the evoque!

No, it isnt.

Quintin West > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 00:28

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As an industrial designer I get very frustrated with shit like this. Lets just say perhaps, that you DID give them the idea for it. You never get any money of course. But what really chaps my ass, is that they never even tell people who actually came up with the idea. Were treated like nameless and faceless concept puppets. Its bologna.

Quintin West > Quintin West 09/11/2015 at 00:29

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I should also not I have had a few things like this happen to me with projects I did in school as part of “Design Competitions.”

wombat661 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 01:32

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No wonder new cars are so wacko stupid. You can’t even see out of those windows. I got sea sick in the back seat of that Evoque stylistic dead end. Think staring at four walls of plastic panels for an hour sitting in the back of that car while going down the street. If that doesn’t make you vomit, don’t know what will. Is as bad as sitting a paddy wagon that killed Freddie Gray. What art schools call “style” is the dumbest thing yet to happen to automotive design. Make those windows bigger so you can actually see where you are driving!

We rented a Chevy Spark on vacation. The rear windows were so stupid tiny kids hated riding in that thing. They were staring at plastic interior the entire vacation. What the crap is that kind of styling. Is an economy car with no power yet is trying to look like a sports car. In the end, it achieved neither, but served as a stupid styling exercise for some intern.

scottintheway > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 04:34

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I see the similarities sorta, but snub nose? Not exactly a unique feature among landrovers.

Pcm9799 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 04:34

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I don’t see it.

i_liked_BvS > GeeEcksPee 09/11/2015 at 05:41

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YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

PartyPooper2012 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 07:14

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thanks for nothing! This evokes lots of anger

Land-Rover Matt > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 07:45

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Did I design the Range Rover Evoque?

If so you should be very ashamed of yourself, it’s ugly and pretentious.

TylerLinner > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 08:34

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Neat, but I don’t see it as similar enough to the Evoque theme to really claim heritage to your sketch. I actually prefer your top right sketch, which looks like some sort of Prius MPV. What did your final design look like? I assume you went to Coventry or some such thing... (CCS grad here)

BiffCIW > Garland - Last Top Comment on Splinter 09/11/2015 at 08:38

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Unfortunately...it sounds like you are destined to a life of beige Accord and Camryness. Have you personally had more issues with a Land Rover? How a car makes you feel is what I think is important.

Garland - Last Top Comment on Splinter > BiffCIW 09/11/2015 at 09:06

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Nah, I drive Saabs and Volvos. No beige here.

Land Rover consistently gets terrible reports for reliability. This isn’t a new or controversial assessmemt. The used market is full of LRs and RRs that are falling apart.

david872m > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 09:37

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As a car designer, I can promise you that you didn’t design the Evoque.

VoltRon > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/11/2015 at 10:03

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Same! And now I’m a real estate developer with a license to draw buildings!

BrainForest > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 12:14

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TreeGuy > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 12:57

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Seeing as you were designing with their brand styling in mind, it wouldn’t be a stretch to come up with similar styles. I see more resemblance to the 2004 Range Stormer Concept ( Which if I recall correctly, inspired the Evoque ) with a slightly more road friendly visible headlight connecting the front to the sides.

iChopStick > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 13:19

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The resemblance is uncanny.

Puddingpopper > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 09/11/2015 at 15:50

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Collective unconscious at its best

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GeeEcksPee > i_liked_BvS 09/22/2015 at 19:15

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Any time’s a good time for The Who.