Welp there goes my internship plans

"unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)" (unclevanos) 09/02/2015 at 13:46 • Filed to: None

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My German is Scheiße and the grammar is pretty bad and it is recommend to full the position requirement. I haven’t learned more German since high school and tragically my school defunded it my junior year. The Woodcliff Lake HQ would have been a good internship for me to stay in state. Most of the other posts are for electrical engineers and electronics. Looks like the Bavarians eventually will go full electric on their cars.

Party-vi > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 13:54

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Probably for more i brand products.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 13:57

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God, I’m surprised you don’t need a Doctorate and a Congressional letter of recommendation for an Internship these days...

Patrick Nichols > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 14:03

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I like how they state they will not discriminate over disability or national origin, but the job will most likely require you to drive and speak both english and german (something even more uncommon for someone not from German or English speaking countries).

I suppose they are valid qualifications but I have a big problem with the EO employer declaration in general. Eventually we will get to a point in society where people will be able to pick jobs on a first come first serve basis because they’ll claim they were discriminated based on their education stemming from their hometown, race, parents, etc.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 09/02/2015 at 14:05

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Some podunk small engineering firm instate here had more requirements for letter of recommendations than the BMW and gov agencies (you know the one with the rockets, and running on less than a penny per government funding).

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 14:11

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If companies could remember it’s JUST an internship, that’d be great.

I mean, I’m 7+ years into my career field now (And in charge of my department, reporting only to the CEO and President) and I still think it’s ridiculous.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Patrick Nichols 09/02/2015 at 14:11

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Bingo, you’re on topic with the discrimination getting a little out of hand. I’ve seen it in the admissions process at school. Usually the application is severely lacking in academics but plays the hometown/race/income card. Once they usually get in these freshman are lazy and lower the ranking of our school. I can’t get angry at the German requirement only at the fact I half ass speak it and that my hs cut the funding. My only option is using the campus rosetta stone program offered by tuition.

Cé hé sin > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 14:16

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I’m surprised - well, slightly surprised - that a company who operate internationally would need an employee outside Germany to be able to speak and write German as many international companies use English as a common language for their multinational staff. Then again I suppose it’s the senior levels who work in English and the lower level staff in Germany who you would actually be dealing with would use German on a daily basis.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 14:20

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I work for a German automotive parts manufacturer, and can promise that if you ever want to work for a major German auto company and move up the ladder you will need to learn German. They give major preference to German speaking employees, which somewhat makes sense. If you show enough promise they will sometimes pay for language courses, but it’s a better idea to get a jump start of it on your own.

Since I started my job I’ve bought software, similar to Rosetta Stone, to begin teaching myself. But if I ever want to work for my dream company, Toyota Motorsports GmbH, I probably should enroll in some courses too.

If you are serious about wanting to work for a German company, I highly recommend adding it as a minor or something.

All that being said, apply anyway. Job/internship requirements are almost always overstated, which makes the process of job hunting the most depressing thing ever. Seems like every entry level job I looked at after school said it requires at least 2 years of experience, but how the hell are you supposed to get that if you can’t get into the entry level jobs?! Then I discovered that companies mainly put those descriptions in to bring in the most skilled and motivated applicants, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t accept someone who doesn’t exactly meet the requirements. Having a slight grasp of the German language might honestly be enough for you. Worst they can do is say no.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Cé hé sin 09/02/2015 at 14:21

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When MBUSA was in New Jersey, they had no language requirement on their posting. I didn’t care for MB since they lobbied to change the import rules here in the USA. The dealer network lost money to grey market import Benzes.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 09/02/2015 at 14:30

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No German offered on my campus nor the nearby schools offer it. I’m almost close to a math minor two more classes to fullfill it if I choose so.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 14:32

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Ah, gotchya. Then it sounds like working with some software is your best bet, or possibly find a private tutor if you’re really serious about it. Like I said though, apply anyway. You may still get the position. If you don’t, you’ve at least show interest and they will likely remember that/you if another internship or position opens up.

ly2v8-Brian > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 14:39

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Definitely something I should look into when looking for internships this upcoming semester. I may not be fluent in German but I am at least confident I have a real good understanding of the language. Where did you find this by the way?

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > ly2v8-Brian 09/02/2015 at 14:45

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https://bmw.taleo.net/careersection/…

ly2v8-Brian > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 15:55

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Thank you very much.

Leadbull > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 16:06

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How many letters do you need?

The most I’ve seen was six, which is bad but still doable.

Leadbull > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 16:11

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Just lie and then study real hard for a bit in case it comes up during the interview.

Don’t say you’re fluent; say you have a “working proficiency”.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Leadbull 09/02/2015 at 16:11

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Roughly five for the unnamed podunk engineering form. Less for the other places I’ve looked at.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > ly2v8-Brian 09/02/2015 at 16:13

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No problem. Good luck with the search.

Leadbull > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 16:16

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Don’t be afraid to go way back and ask HS teachers/coaches. A lot of the time people will just ask you to provide them with a working draft of the letter, anyway.

At least you don't have to get background checked....

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Leadbull 09/02/2015 at 17:03

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I didn’t burn too many bridges with the teachers at my hs teachers and track/xc coach, only with the music dept. That’s another story. I’m fairly friendly with a teacher who worked at bell labs.

ly2v8-Brian > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 09/02/2015 at 20:40

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You bet. I’m going to gather up links where I can to make the search easier when I get more serious about interning somewhere.