This Is How Crazy The Porsche Market Is.

"Grab Paddle" (grabpaddle) 08/21/2015 at 10:29 • Filed to: None

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These Stupid dealers are all over the place and just trying to rip everyone off. Oh, capitalism....

Party-vi > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 10:33

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Anyone know the reason for the uptick in aircooled Porsche prices?

EmbraceTheRasp > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 10:37

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I can guarantee that the trade in value on 91 Carrera 2 cab will be nothing close to the “oh but it’s a collector car now” price they charge to go out. And if the geniuses in Tanafly think all convertibles are 93 Carreras, I have a Geo convertible in my neighborhood I'd like to trade in.

DrScientist > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 10:38

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what do you mean by all over the place? not doubting that dealers are literally trying to capitalize on the current market.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > Party-vi 08/21/2015 at 10:38

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People who wanted them as kids in the 80’s/90’s are now 40-50 years old and have money. Demand raises the price and there ya go

DrScientist > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 08/21/2015 at 10:43

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i think he was joking.

Party-vi > DrScientist 08/21/2015 at 10:47

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I wasn’t - am actually genuinely curious.

Party-vi > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 08/21/2015 at 10:47

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Does this mean my E46 will be worth $25k in 15 years?

*cries. dies.*

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > DrScientist 08/21/2015 at 10:55

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I’m being serious. That’s why muscle car prices peaked in 2008, all the baby boomers turned 40 and had money to buy their highschool dream cars.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > Party-vi 08/21/2015 at 10:56

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Nope, too common. If it was an M3 you’d see a rise in value though

DrScientist > Party-vi 08/21/2015 at 10:59

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oh... i feel like its been covered so much that you were just joking.

in a nutshell, what cletus said, but also... for the real enthusiasts, air cooled are the only 911s, long-nose being best (pre-1974 or so before mandated crush bumpers so they have the “original” design), and now that porsche says all 911s will be turbo charged in the future, this makes the NA (even water cooled) cars more desireable, and the air cooled were built in much lower numbers than water cooled so supply is low, and probably a couple of other factors i’ve forgotten.

Grab Paddle > Party-vi 08/21/2015 at 11:00

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Two words: Magnus Walker.

DrScientist > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 08/21/2015 at 11:09

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yes i know... but i think there are few other factors that have driven the 930s and the 993 turbos for example into the >$200,000 asking price range.

space_captain_steve > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 11:31

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Have you seen the toyota supra market lately? It’s completely overtaking all the over 90s JDM classics by a wide margin because Paul Walker, yo. Would have been a very smart investment a couple years ago...

Grab Paddle > space_captain_steve 08/21/2015 at 11:33

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What are those prices like? I saw a red completely stock 94 with 40k miles for $59k which I do think is fair since they didn’t make these for many years, unlike the Porsches, and most people shit aftermarket parts all over them.

http://www.exoticclassics.com/1994-toyota-su…

Grab Paddle > DrScientist 08/21/2015 at 11:35

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both of those cars are pretty similar, yet 15k apart. and the less expensive one has less miles???

DrScientist > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 11:42

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ah... i see what youre saying.

metro NYC markup vs where-ever 1000 miles away puts you? indiana?

that is like a 30% premium on the first.

Berang > space_captain_steve 08/21/2015 at 12:05

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Try a good investment about five years ago. Prices have been climbing for a while now.

Berang > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 12:06

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Why buy a Porsche anyway when you could buy an RX7.

TractorPillow > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 12:13

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They’re cool cars and people must be buying them. For me there are plenty of similarly priced cars that are way cooler. I looked at 80s-90s Porsches for a while and even talked to some owners and dealers, but at the end of the day I couldn’t justify it. It was never a dream car for me, but it was for some - and they’ve now got the money to pay for one. On the plus side, they stand out in the sea of newer Porsches so that in and of itself is value added for me. I’d love to drive one for a week though so if anyone wants to let me borrow those I think that could satiate my curiousity :)

Also, I don’t believe its a ripoff if someone is willing to pay for it. It’s not your car-uneducated lower middle class buying them, it's dudes with money that don't want to be another corvette dad.

Grab Paddle > Berang 08/21/2015 at 12:28

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For me, it’s because of PCA track days honestly. I don’t see a huge RX-7 club that can support my track habit. I do love a nice RX-7 though.

For me it’s all about 911 964’s, Supra TT’s, and RX-7’s.

space_captain_steve > Berang 08/21/2015 at 13:17

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I keep juggling on what toy car I would like to get to offset my RX8 daily driver, and keep coming back to the RX7. If mazda does a true coupe MX5 though, I’d get that in a heartbeat (and subsequently make it my new daily driver). I’m not holding out for a new mazda rotary though.

The FD is so awesome, but at the end of the day it’s getting close to a 25 year old car which is not something I really want to deal with. It’s so hard to find clean ones for low miles. Is 20k really worth it for a 1993 car with 70k miles? That’s a lot of used-car buying power.

TheJMan92 > Grab Paddle 08/21/2015 at 17:01

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Hipsters is one word. *joking

66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash > Grab Paddle 10/15/2015 at 11:47

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And maybe RWB as well.